Mayo - comparison of different programs

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DrNick2006 said:
I have interviews at rochester and jacksonville. Can anyone compare/contrast the different Mayo clinic places?

Don't mean to Hijack your thread Dr. Nick, but I was wondering if respondents could include Mayo-Scottsdale in your comparison/contrast.
 
sure.. I would like to know how all these programs differ. Maybe I'll send an app to scottsdale today 🙂
 
DrNick2006 said:
I have interviews at rochester and jacksonville. Can anyone compare/contrast the different Mayo clinic places?

I'm currently an intern at Mayo Jacksonville and I can tell without reservation that I am absolutely in love with the place. As background, I am a US med school grad who ranked Mayo Jax number 1. In the 5 months I have been here I can assure you that I have learned a ton and that I have all the support I could desire. A big plus is that Mayo Jax is not just a secondary site; Mayo Clinic cares that all of their sites (read:Scottsdale) produce physicians that are exceptional. Of note, I recently took the in-service exam by the ACP and found that at least half of the question I was able to answer were from my experiences at Mayo Jax. This tells you that the teaching is relative to what you will face on the boards and in practice and that the patient population you will see is appropriate for your learning.

Some basics: no scutwork, friendly attendings who care to teach you and actually practice evidence-based medicine. A program director who will always go to bat for you and who you can page directly without hesitation. A program coordinator who can handle any logistic problem you may face. Residents who are supportive and also foster your development by teaching you as well. A clinic that is bar-none; note I am subspecialty bound but I find ambulatory clinic worthwhile, probably because it is a very good experience.
Noon conferences that are pertinent to developing clinical skills and not esoteric facts. Workload that is manageable; note, I have a 6 month-old and I find time to see him on a daily basis. We adhere to the 80 hour work rule namely because we have the support that is necessary to get you out on time. And the best part, we get to go to the mothership in Rochester and participate in any elective of our choosing! All the benefits of Mayo without the cold!

I could go on and on, but I implore you and anyone who visits these forums to come take a look a Mayo Jax. Of note, we have had 100% pass rate for the ABIM the last 5 years. I assure you, if you want to learn medicine and have a life while doing it, you owe it to yourself to come and take a look at Mayo Jax.
 
IMed4life, I ranked Mayo Jax second and ended up at my #1 choice. Your post is really making me wish I had ranked them first, because I'm not feeling nearly so great about the education and conferences where I am now. 🙁
 
Quick! Give me Hamm on white, hold the Mayo!
 
IMED4Life said:
I'm currently an intern at Mayo Jacksonville and I can tell without reservation that I am absolutely in love with the place. As background, I am a US med school grad who ranked Mayo Jax number 1. In the 5 months I have been here I can assure you that I have learned a ton and that I have all the support I could desire. A big plus is that Mayo Jax is not just a secondary site; Mayo Clinic cares that all of their sites (read:Scottsdale) produce physicians that are exceptional. Of note, I recently took the in-service exam by the ACP and found that at least half of the question I was able to answer were from my experiences at Mayo Jax. This tells you that the teaching is relative to what you will face on the boards and in practice and that the patient population you will see is appropriate for your learning.

Some basics: no scutwork, friendly attendings who care to teach you and actually practice evidence-based medicine. A program director who will always go to bat for you and who you can page directly without hesitation. A program coordinator who can handle any logistic problem you may face. Residents who are supportive and also foster your development by teaching you as well. A clinic that is bar-none; note I am subspecialty bound but I find ambulatory clinic worthwhile, probably because it is a very good experience.
Noon conferences that are pertinent to developing clinical skills and not esoteric facts. Workload that is manageable; note, I have a 6 month-old and I find time to see him on a daily basis. We adhere to the 80 hour work rule namely because we have the support that is necessary to get you out on time. And the best part, we get to go to the mothership in Rochester and participate in any elective of our choosing! All the benefits of Mayo without the cold!

I could go on and on, but I implore you and anyone who visits these forums to come take a look a Mayo Jax. Of note, we have had 100% pass rate for the ABIM the last 5 years. I assure you, if you want to learn medicine and have a life while doing it, you owe it to yourself to come and take a look at Mayo Jax.

Wow, this is exactly the opposite of what I have heard of Mayo-Scottsdale which I hear is a very stuffy and unfriendly program. Residents are not happy there and I'm speaking from personal experience as I attended medical school in Arizona and have classmates who attended there. It's a really tiny program which takes 8 residents per year.
 
Mayo Rochester is a full scale academic medicine residency program. There are about 45 categoricals and 20 prelims each year. The program is highly committed to producing academic physicians most of whom will go on to do sub-specialty fellowship or advanced training to prepare for academic/leadership roles in primary care. About half the residents stay for fellowship; looking back over the class photos from the past 15-20 years, 1 in 10 residents are eventually on staff. Program leadership does not conceal their efforts to scout residents for staff positions within the Mayo system.

Clinically, the patients come from both local and referral sources. The case load is reasonable, and the range of pathology is excellent. ABIM performance is 99%+. Teaching is also outstanding; beyond morning report, M&M, EBM lecture, EBM conference, core curriculum lectures, resident-run board review and Medicine grand rounds, there are also hundreds of sub-specialty conferences. Medicine and IM subspecialty staff members are highly approachable, and curbsides often turn into informal case-based teaching. Staff members are chosen for clinical ability before research ability.

Scholarly activity is required; it can be as informal as a case series write-up, or not un-commonly, first authorship in a major journal. Up to 3 months can be taken as research elective. There are opportunities for short-tracking, a clinical research masters, MPH affiliation with U of M, or the Mayo Scholars program. Access to active research with hundreds of leading clinician-scholars is readily available.

Rochester is a very convenient, very affordable place to live, especially if you like outdoor activities. Most residents are laid-back, friendly people; we get along well and socialize outside of work. House parties, dinner gatherings and trips to the Twin Cities are popular activities. Most residents buy condos or houses. Free, covered, on-site, garage parking (read that again, slowly) is an excellent perk. My commute is 8 minutes long.

My wife and I couples matched here, ranking Mayo first, over MGH and JHU, mainly because we would have excellent training and world-class research/fellowship opportunities but still be able to see each other, start a family and live comfortably.
 
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