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Hey, I am very concerned with taking the MCAT a third time. My first MCAT score was a 23, and I retook it recently and scored a 28. I am very depressed at the idea that I received a 28, because on all my practice exams I have been scoring low 30s. But my main concern is that, I believe that I can do well, but my verbal score has always been killing me. I have completed EX101, TPR hyperlearning and all of the AAMC exams. But my verbal score is still running low. I have an issue where the longer I read, my eyes begins to blur.

I am planning on taking the exam mid August, but I am worried that I may not have enough time to prepare, and even if I do have enough time to prepare, what are my chances of even getting into med school now?

This exam has made me extremely depressed and I wish that I can just study for the MCAT, but I also work full time. Please, if anyone can give me some advice I will be glad to take it.

I am currently taking the Gold Standard, The verbal looks harder to read, but the questions are more simplified compared to EK101. But yeah, any advice on verbal would be super. My average for all my AAMC exams were 12/7.5/12, but I ended up scoring my low on all three sections on the real exam.
 
Practice scores are rarely accurate of how you'll actually do. Example- I averaged 37-40 on my practice tests and ended up with a 33 on the real thing. Lot of my friends also scored 3-4 points lower on the actual thing. Your average composite seems to be 31.5 based on the section averages you listed, so scoring a 28 on the real thing seems reasonable.
 
i would need more info to make a solid recommendation. Basically when did you take your tests. I would give this next one some room. Give it enough time when you know you will have time to study and improve your score. If you do take it later then make sure you will have your scores back before AMCAS primary, so you can have all your ducks in a row when you submit. You don't want to just take it and take it because it would probably look like you are just shot-gunning it and hoping for a good score. Give yourself time and be focused.
 
Practice scores are rarely accurate of how you'll actually do. Example- I averaged 37-40 on my practice tests and ended up with a 33 on the real thing. Lot of my friends also scored 3-4 points lower on the actual thing. Your average composite seems to be 31.5 based on the section averages you listed, so scoring a 28 on the real thing seems reasonable.

Yeah, maybe because you were taking Kaplan practice tests. :laugh:
 
Try starting with passages that look interesting. You don't have to waste time going through every detail, just grab the main points. One thing you can do is to skim the questions before you read so you know what to look for as you go through them.
 
Yeah, maybe because you were taking Kaplan practice tests. :laugh:

Ironically my Kaplan test average (31) was lower than my actual score (33) 😕

The 37-40 was on AAMC #3-9. #10 and 11 gave me a bit of a reality check (36 and 35 respectively) though
 
I know many schools advise against taking the MCAT a third time. If you're just going to increase your score by 2-3 points, I'm not sure how much a third MCAT would help you.

If I were in you shoes, and felt that I could get a 32 or above, I think I would go for it. Verbal was my Achilles' heel too; I was scoring around 10-11 on all of my practice exams, but ended up with an 8 on the real thing (of course, I stopped studying verbal two months before the exam, feeling that my score wasn't going to change).

It sounds like you need to practice doing a block of passages in the timespan of the verbal section, to increase stamina. Here are some more materials if you're looking for passages:

EK Mini- MCATs

Kaplan book ( I don't think you covered this)- MCAT Reasoning and Verbal

IvyHall MCAT Verbal reasoning Passages: Full Length Verbal Passages (some of these passages are weird and harder than the real thing--but it's just more practice)

IvyHall MCAT Verbal Reasoning Mastery (never tried this personally, don't know how good it is, just a suggestion)

Kaplan MCAT 45- some really hard MCAT tests and some verbal practice

Kaplan also has a ton of other verbal stuff ( you can Amazon it) that I would try before Gold Standard-- GS is really not representative of the MCAT.

Some other common advice here to increase stamina is to read the Economist, NY Times, etc. I don't really know how well this works-- I doubt it would help with trouble answering questions-- but it might help with the reading issues you seem to have.
 
Thanks, But I know I can improve on my real score. I took my first exam 2 years ago, and scored a 23P, and I took my second exam on May30th, but I felt sick the day I took it. For some reason everything was slower for me, and I had a huge headache the week of the exam. But the issue is that I scored a 6 on VR so I know for a fact I need to retake it.
I can fully understand the passage, but when I get to the questions, they are just tricky. Sometimes when I am working on EK101 I just really want to chuck the book at the wall because the answers do not make sense to me at all.
I have been studying since December of 2012, I would literally work from 9 to 6, and study right after until 1 to 1:30am. The practice exams I took, showed that I was doing well on all my subjects except for verbal and no matter how hard I tried, I just cannot improve on it. I took AAMC exam 3 to 11, and my bio and physics were always fluctuating between 11 to 14 and for verbal it was just fluctuating between 6 to 8. I took a Kaplan and TPR FL and scored roughly the same.

I know that schools will probably not like the idea that I took the exam 3 times, but I just want to get in to any med school and I have a stellar GPA and extra cre.
 
You can call and ask, but I'm pretty sure your MCAT is just fine for most DO schools.
 
A friend of mine took the MCAT, got a score in the low 20s. Was rejected.

She took it again the next year, got a score in the high 20s. Rejected again.

She took it again the next year, got in the low 30s (I think it was a 31), and she got five MD acceptances.

I know this is only one datapoint, but her application was otherwise unchanged year to year. She was kept out of medical school, and later welcomed to medical schools with wide open arms, based on her MCAT score.

You can draw your own conclusions here. She is going to be a doctor.
 
What does that say about the application process? 2 years. She probably wouldn't have become any different of a physician.

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Thank you. It is nice to know that I still have a shot in med school, even if I take it three times.
 
I took it three times.

7/2010- 27Q
5/2011- 29Q
9/2012- 36Q (13VR, 11PS, 12BS)

I think, in my case, it was a good idea to re-take the third time (though I really neglected to study for the essays each time... oops!). I had planned on taking a couple of years off after college (graduated 2011) so my first two scores weren't dealbreakers for any applications. I took the MCAT then because I assumed that I would do fairly well having just taken a lot of the included coursework. However, I probably should have just not taken it at all. Oh well. You live and you learn.

If you're confident you can increase by a couple of points, definitely do it! I feel like your VR score has a lot of improvement space, so it's not impossible that you could seriously bump up your score.
 
If you think that you can raise your verbal score up to at least a 10, I think it would be worth a third try. Just make sure that you practice the verbal under actual test conditions. Also, try to start with the passages that seem most interesting to you. That's what I did, and it helped me raise my verbal (my weakest point) by about 3 or 4 points.
 
Yeah, maybe because you were taking Kaplan practice tests. :laugh:

I averaged 31 across 7 AAMC practice exams. I scored 29 on the real deal. The real test is a lot harder than the AAMCs, which are absolutely worthless.
 
So what gets me in verbal, is the questions. For example, I can see most of the answer choices being correct, but how do I determine which is the best choice?
As I was working on ek101, I felt that most of my answer choices are correct, but not the best answers and the explanations are somewhat short.
If there is a trick that you guys know of, please share it. Also, I am working on the new gold standards, the questions are worded really bad and some of the passages do not make any sense to me. Has anyone else used these "new exams" before? If so, do you think the "new verbal" is similar to the actual test? I feel like the questions are, but the passages are not.
 
So what tests do you guys think are the most accurate / the ones you'll do worse on relative to the real thing?
 
So what tests do you guys think are the most accurate / the ones you'll do worse on relative to the real thing?
For me, Princeton Review's Verbal seemed really similar to the real thing but maybe slightly a little harder. I practiced with the longer passages that seemed more dry and convoluted to get some practice with more difficult passages.
 
So what tests do you guys think are the most accurate / the ones you'll do worse on relative to the real thing?

Not sure about tests. For content review,

PS: TBR & TPR-H Science Workbook. The real thing is different but they're both good sources. TBR is hard as hell and TPR-H is just annoying, but I scored liked 90-95th percentile in PS so it worked out well.

VR: I don't know. I used EK 101 a little bit. The real verbal passages were longer and more dense, and I totally bombed this section.

BS: No idea. I think TPR was good for content review. TPR-H SW is probably as good as it's going to get for passages. I recommend getting a job in a research lab. Unless you're familiar with reading research papers and understanding tables and graphs made by somebody with high-functioning autism, then you're going to have a terrible time with the BS section.

AAMC tests were pretty useless. PS was different than AAMC material. VR was longer and more dense than many of the AAMC material. BS was more confusing and much more experimental than AAMC material.
 
So what gets me in verbal, is the questions. For example, I can see most of the answer choices being correct, but how do I determine which is the best choice?
As I was working on ek101, I felt that most of my answer choices are correct, but not the best answers and the explanations are somewhat short.
If there is a trick that you guys know of, please share it. Also, I am working on the new gold standards, the questions are worded really bad and some of the passages do not make any sense to me. Has anyone else used these "new exams" before? If so, do you think the "new verbal" is similar to the actual test? I feel like the questions are, but the passages are not.

The most accurate is the test in the "Official MCAT book" released by the AAMC. Those Bio and Verbal Passages are very representative of what appears on the exam.
 
I have done that book already. To be honest, my background in the other two portions are very strong. When I came out of the exam, I thought I did well because I thought I knew most of the answers. But, my score says differently, I am sure I must have miss read something that day.
In the end, it is all about verbal. I have always struggled on this section. I began reading a lot, and it does not help. Even when I took the exam a second time, I thought I would get at least a 8, because I understood the whole passage, but when I received my score back, I was devastated.

I have been working on verbal under time conditions, but the issue is that my eyes get extremely dry (I have been to the optometrist about it they said that my eyes are extremely dry but they could not determine why), and it is because of this, my sight begins to blur. This totally sucks to, because seeing how everything is now computerized does not help my situation.

I guess I will just keep reviewing and working on verbal. I just hope I can score at least a 9, and overall above a 30.
 
I have done that book already. To be honest, my background in the other two portions are very strong. When I came out of the exam, I thought I did well because I thought I knew most of the answers. But, my score says differently, I am sure I must have miss read something that day.
In the end, it is all about verbal. I have always struggled on this section. I began reading a lot, and it does not help. Even when I took the exam a second time, I thought I would get at least a 8, because I understood the whole passage, but when I received my score back, I was devastated.

I have been working on verbal under time conditions, but the issue is that my eyes get extremely dry (I have been to the optometrist about it they said that my eyes are extremely dry but they could not determine why), and it is because of this, my sight begins to blur. This totally sucks to, because seeing how everything is now computerized does not help my situation.

I guess I will just keep reviewing and working on verbal. I just hope I can score at least a 9, and overall above a 30.

Have you tried looking away from the computer screen every few minutes? Just staring continuously at a computer screen would make anyone's eyes dry.
 
Yeah, Thanks for replying so quick SilverCat. May I ask how you studied for verbal? Did you go through every question in your practice exams and look at the reason why you got the question wrong? or are you just able to fully understand the context of the passages you read?
For example, I always assumed that when a question ask "What would a critic say about this quote," I always thought that it would be the opposite of what the quote was saying. But I guess I was wrong, according to an explanations from on GS1 verbal
 
I took the MCAT 3 times. Had two scores on my amcas last cycle (27O, 28T bombing the verbal) as a late applicant and received 0 ii's and obviously no acceptances. Took the summer after I graduated to study and sat for the late July exam and scored a 35O. Still was a semi-late (August) applicant but received 5 ii's and 3 MD acceptances. Nothing changed in my application but the exam score and if anything my cGPA was worse ~3.3. My sitting for the MCAT 3 times never came up in an interview, even the grueling panel at UWash. I'd agree that if you realistically believe you can bring it up to a 32+ go for it. I'd be enrolling in a DO program (absolutely nothing against DO schools, just not my first choice route) if I hadn't gone against my premed advisor's advice to not retake a 3rd time. Good luck.
 
I'm probably not the person to ask about verbal (seeing that my score in verbal was an 8), but the key to verbal is your psychology. If you hit a passage you don't feel comfortable with ( for me, it was art criticism), you have a greater tendency to miss the questions. You need to feel confident going in.

For my studying, I tried to do as many passages as possible-- I basically put my hands on every practice book I could find. I would go through the questions I was struggling with at the back of the book--here, you can try to find which type of questions you're messing up. For me, it was the ones concerning the main idea of the passage. Some people have problems with the double negative questions-- the NOT questions, I think. when you reach these questions in practice passages, try to focus on them more, and read them carefully.

I would not say I understood all of the passages--I tended to do well on political science and literature passages, and bomb anything related to weather or climate. If you feel you uncomfortable with a subject, you might try reading up a little more on it, just to get used to reading in the subject.

I know EK has a strategy to Verbal, you might try that.
 
Hey MedDoc05, I am just curoious, how did you go about studying for the exam a third time? For example, did you end up doing all the AAMC exams over again and did you use other material? Also, how did you improve verbal? I am actually figuring out how to stay focused now and I am beginning to be able to answer the questions. If possible, can you please tell me how you tackled verbal and what was your final score?
After doing some GS exams, and talking to what we got wrong this week, I am beginning to see the trend in the questions I am missing on Verbal, some times I feel like they are just ridiculous (either I miss understood the passage or misunderstood the question)

Thanks
 
I can only speak for myself, but I had to take the MCAT three times. I even did WORSE the second time (first time 26, second time 25 lol). The third time I improved 3 points on both physics and verbal (Bio stayed the same), and I ended up with a 30. I am applying this cycle, and so far I have 4 interviews. So if you think taking it three times will hurt you, it may at some schools, but definitely not at all. However, don't take it again unless you KNOW you will do 30+. It is emotionally taxing haha.

I improved my verbal by doing passages over and over again. I currently work as a research assistant in a stem cell research lab, and going through scientific literature and actually figuring out what I needed to take from it helped me a lot. I agree with the person who said you need to be confident. I hated certain passages (like art literature), and I did as many of those as I could (mostly just the AAMC practice tests you can buy online). Definitely change your study habits and be honest with yourself, because I sure wasn't when I tried to take it the first two times.

*Also, are you practicing with the timer on or off?
 
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Hey MedDoc05, I am just curoious, how did you go about studying for the exam a third time? For example, did you end up doing all the AAMC exams over again and did you use other material? Also, how did you improve verbal? I am actually figuring out how to stay focused now and I am beginning to be able to answer the questions. If possible, can you please tell me how you tackled verbal and what was your final score?
After doing some GS exams, and talking to what we got wrong this week, I am beginning to see the trend in the questions I am missing on Verbal, some times I feel like they are just ridiculous (either I miss understood the passage or misunderstood the question)

Thanks
Third time I just did all the AAMC practice exams. I'd review the material pertinent to the questions I missed to make sure I had the necessary concepts/equations down. I've always been strong at verbal (I got an 11 my first time without really studying for the MCAT at all) and my third time I scored a 12. Somehow shockingly on that second time I received a 6 in verbal and I really have no idea how that happened... I made sure I really nailed all the verbal sections on the practice exams so I didn't have an epic fail again. Nothing helped my confidence and familiarity for the exam better than taking a timed full practice test or two weekly for two months before.

EDIT: It was my first time utilizing the AAMC practice exams...yes I was an idiot before 😛
 
I took the MCAT 3 times. Had two scores on my amcas last cycle (27O, 28T bombing the verbal) as a late applicant and received 0 ii's and obviously no acceptances. Took the summer after I graduated to study and sat for the late July exam and scored a 35O. Still was a semi-late (August) applicant but received 5 ii's and 3 MD acceptances. Nothing changed in my application but the exam score and if anything my cGPA was worse ~3.3. My sitting for the MCAT 3 times never came up in an interview, even the grueling panel at UWash. I'd agree that if you realistically believe you can bring it up to a 32+ go for it. I'd be enrolling in a DO program (absolutely nothing against DO schools, just not my first choice route) if I hadn't gone against my premed advisor's advice to not retake a 3rd time. Good luck.

congrats!

so you were a reapplicant with a 35 MCAT (3rd retake after two low scores), a 3.3 GPA, and a late application...and you got 3 MD Acceptances?

when i see stories like this...it gives me hope!

did you have a lot of stellar ECs?
 
I guess I will redue the most recent AAMC exams and see how I do. As for now, I am just working on the GS FL, because I have never completed them before. But I am sure I can improve my overall score, what was killing me and always has on every AAMC FL is verbal.
It makes me sad, because I am not a ESL, I was born and raised in California. I am literate, but the verbal section on this test had made me feel extremely stupid. I now doubt my abilities to read. So I have began reading the News Paper everyday for an hour to check that I am still literate. For GS1, I scored 11/6/11 and for GS2, I scored 10/8/11. It looks like I am improving, but GS exams are hard!

Thanks guys, I will let you know how the third time guys. I want to thank you for still keeping my hopes up, knowing that other people have taken the exam 3 times and have gotten acceptance letters does give me hope still.
I just hope that I can improve on verbal for my third attempt on August 15th.
 
So what tests do you guys think are the most accurate / the ones you'll do worse on relative to the real thing?

AAMC's 10 and 11 are the absolute most accurate tests you can take. 3-5 are nice practice but not at all accurate. 7-9 are ok. AAMCs are going to be your best predictor compared to test prep companies because they are actually old exam questions with real curves.

On Cv's point about the experimental passages in BS... The MCAT has been moving much more in this direction and the newer official practice exams reflect this change. When I took my first MCAT in 2010, I had zero of those crazy confusing experimental BS passages. When I took it again in 2012, I had at least 2, maybe 3 (don't fully remember). The best thing to do with those is to pore over the practice passages in the official AAMC MCAT guide until you understand their diagrams, terminology, etc.
 
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I agree, for AAMC 11, I got a 14 on bio, and on my real exam, I had all experiment passages for bio, and I had 1 or 2 ochem passages. To be honest, I thought I did well on my real exam, I thought I only missed two questions. But I guess I am wrong. Be careful when you read the experiments, I am sure I must have mis read something, for me to score an 11. I have never scored below a 10 on Physical and Bio, but for verbal, I have never scored a 9 or higher =(. Thus, verbal will be the bane of my existence! and in the end I will own verbal in the face ( I really hope so =() !
 
congrats!

so you were a reapplicant with a 35 MCAT (3rd retake after two low scores), a 3.3 GPA, and a late application...and you got 3 MD Acceptances?

when i see stories like this...it gives me hope!

did you have a lot of stellar ECs?

My EC's were decent but nothing spectacular. 2 of the 3 acceptances were to programs that were started in the last 5 years. With my kind of stats you just have to be realistic about where you apply and interview exceptionally. Keep the faith!
 
My EC's were decent but nothing spectacular. 2 of the 3 acceptances were to programs that were started in the last 5 years. With my kind of stats you just have to be realistic about where you apply and interview exceptionally. Keep the faith!

still, 3 MD Acceptances is nothing to **** at...congrats again!
 
i would need more info to make a solid recommendation. Basically when did you take your tests.
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For everyone saying AAMCs aren't indicative of the real thing: my average on AAMC 7-11 was ~37. AAMC 9-11 was 38. I got a 39 on AAMC 11. Then I took the test, thought I did pretty well (even treated myself to a celebratory steak dinner right after the test), and when I got my score back it was...39.

If you look at polls on this site most people report their AAMC test average predicted their score within +/- 2 points. The AAMC tests are easily the most predictive and accurate practice tests out there. Obviously it's not a perfect predictor so you're always going to have folks who end up with massive differences between their predicted and actual scores, but they're relatively rare and also relatively noisy. if you're studying for the MCAT and freaking out because you think it's likely that you're going to score 7 points below your average, don't be.
 
I agree, I AAMC exams are very good at predicting your overall score. But again, the only reason I did worst was because I felt sick the day I took it. I am sure that if I had felt good that day, I would have gotten a 12/7-8/12.

Because, I knew which questions I messed up on during my breaks, which sucks and I knew that I miss read 1 or 2 questions.

But again, Hopefully I can just score a 32+ on August 15th.
I have been practicing verbal with Gold Standards, and from what I see, the new format for verbal in GS are very similar to the questions on the actual MCAT. So hopefully, I will be able to boost my verbal score by 3 points, giving me a better fighting chance.

Anyways, I am very happy that you got accepted in to med school MedDoc05 and SilverCat, just keep applying your scores are very good to!
I am sure that verbal is what holds most of us science people down on this test. And what makes it worst is the idea that if you miss read a passage, you will probably lose all your points on that passage, explaining why your verbal went from a 10->8. Besides that, good luck and I hope you get in the school of your first choice!

I will just keep practicing verbal and doing some review on the other subjects when I have time.
 
I really hope that the most recent MCAT is the one that is evaluated.

A few adcoms have told me that the most recent one shows your knowledge now/ your test taking ability now versus your knowledge/aptitude back then.

Personally, I have taken the MCAT a total of 4 times.
First three were 23-26. Most recent one 2 years later was a 35.

Obviously the increase shows effort and is not the product of luck.

So I think you should take it if you can increase your score by 3-5 points.
 
Thanks, I am 100 percent sure I can increase my score by at least 3 points. I am getting the hang of verbal now, it is sad because there are two sides to verbal. The passage side and the question side. Who knew that there are specific ways to answer each certain type of questions. But Yeah, I have been doing much better on verbal, I am noticing it on EK101 and GS.

Thanks. I am much calm now. I know that the key is to be confident on the exam and the answer choices you pick!
 
Hey guys,
So tomorrow is my third retake. I am a bit worried. I have completed Ek101, and my score ranged from 6 to 10, mostly 9s.
Besides that, I retook the AAMC practice exams, I took AAMC 10 and 11 and both scored a 8. For exam 11, I was really close to a 9 and I could have gotten a 10 (if I did not change 3 of my answers). But I retook AAMC 7 verbal yesterday, I do not know what happened. I scored a 6! I am now worried again. I felt like AAMC 7 was different than the other AAMC. I went and already reviewed and redid the passage and ended up with a 9ish. But besides that, is AAMC 7 and 9 verbal just different, compared to the other AAMCS? I am really just hoping that I can get a 8 on verbal and a overall score of 30 plus now.
 
I really hope that the most recent MCAT is the one that is evaluated.

A few adcoms have told me that the most recent one shows your knowledge now/ your test taking ability now versus your knowledge/aptitude back then.

Personally, I have taken the MCAT a total of 4 times.
First three were 23-26. Most recent one 2 years later was a 35.

Obviously the increase shows effort and is not the product of luck.

So I think you should take it if you can increase your score by 3-5 points.

That's impressive determination there. I've made a 30 twice but my GPA is so low that I need every boost I can get.
 
Hey guys,
So tomorrow is my third retake. I am a bit worried. I have completed Ek101, and my score ranged from 6 to 10, mostly 9s.
Besides that, I retook the AAMC practice exams, I took AAMC 10 and 11 and both scored a 8. For exam 11, I was really close to a 9 and I could have gotten a 10 (if I did not change 3 of my answers). But I retook AAMC 7 verbal yesterday, I do not know what happened. I scored a 6! I am now worried again. I felt like AAMC 7 was different than the other AAMC. I went and already reviewed and redid the passage and ended up with a 9ish. But besides that, is AAMC 7 and 9 verbal just different, compared to the other AAMCS? I am really just hoping that I can get a 8 on verbal and a overall score of 30 plus now.

Could be burnout, stop thinking about the test and relax. If your average is 9, you'll probably score 9.

But to answer your question, all the AAMCs are pretty accurate. I can also assure you that the real test can have even weirder sections than what you see on the AAMCs. For example, my test had only one humanities passage on VR and only one orgo section on BS.
 
Hey,
That is good. I have been missing 2 question per humanities passage on verbal, but some some reason, as I was looking at the passage from AAMC 7 and the question types on AAMC 7, it just felt different. But yeah, maybe i was burned out. I am just going to review some notes and some verbal notes that I made.

Thanks

Hope me luck =)
 
If your exam is tomorrow, get off of SDN, stop studying, and relax!!

This will unnecessarily create test anxiety for you. Doing well in verbal partly requires focus and a clear-thinking mind. Take it easy tonight.
 
Hey, so I got my score back yesterday. I am very happy now!
I scored a 9/9/11, even though my physical went down two points! my verbal score went up 3 points! I am extremely happy at my score. Even though it is not in the 30 plus that I would have loved to achieve. I at least now have a good shot at St. George, a bunch of DO schools and a few MD schools in the US!!!!!!
So I have contacted a few DO schools, and there response was that they would like to see at least a 7 on each section (meaning that they require a 7) and for MD schools, they responded that they require at least a 8. But besides that. I am extremely happy. My first verbal score on the MCAT was a 4, second was a 6, and now a 9!

Even though my score went up by 1 point, I was able to get a more balanced score and most importantly hit the cut off for most schools. =)
Thanks for your support!

As for physical, I thought this exam was much more confusing and harder compared to my second exam. I was like ??? what is it asking. But besides that, a 9 is not a terrible score, and my overall score is still not terribly low. It is high compared to a bunch of DO schools =). Because I work full time, I had to cut back on my review for sciences and focus on verbal and it paid off! I am not planning to retake it, because verbal has always been a struggle of mine and there is a small chance I can receive a 9 again.

I will be writing a format on what I did for verbal to improve so much. If anyone is interested please ps me.

Thanks again guys for your support. I know that most people aim for the 30 plus range, but a 29 is not a terrible score.
 
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