Med/Peds Interview 2004

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jimmybee

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Hello everyone. I just wanted to start up a thread similar to the one that the class above us set up last year. Maybe we can list where we are applying and later on, where we have interviewed and our thoughts.

Currently, I applied to a huge number of programs scattered throughout the midwest and the south. My grades are pretty weak and I don't really have any particular place in mind. I just know I want to leave Detroit, so I applied to 29 programs. Yeah, that's right 29! A lot of them were reaches, but we will see what happens.

I will look forward to hearing from all of you out there.
 
Hey Jimmy,

I haven't completed my application yet, but I plan on applying to about 15-20 programs. I'd like to stay local, but I wanna' see what everyone has to offer. Einstien offers loan repayment 😍 that is quite a motivation to leave NYC.

Mount Siani
UMDNJ
Stony Brook
Staten Island
Flushing Hospital
Yale (both)
Einstien (Philly)
Georgetown
Beth Israel (Newark)
ECU
Duke
Chapel Hill
U of Maryland
Jackson Memorial (Miami)
University of Mississippi
 
Hey Sheon,

Thanks for the reply. I am applying all over, but unfortunately, not in any of the NYC programs so our overlap isn't that great. I also recently added a 30th program.

One thing that I can add to this thread is that I recently found out that a lot of programs require a chair letter from BOTH medicine and peds. I initially thought that I only needed a chair letter in one or the other, but about ten of my schools I applied to wanted both so I have to scramble and get a medicine one. That sucks!

Also, I was wondering if anyone has received any invites to interview. I know it early, but some schools are sending out interviews. I received invites to Baystate and Penn State. Please let me know if anyone out there has received offers from other schools.

I hope all is well with everyone.
 
This week if have gotten interviews from UofI Peoria and Penn State. I too thought it was a bit early.
 
Just to add to my list of interviews.....

Case Western/Rainbow Babies
West Virginia
William Beaumont Hospital
Mich. State -- Kalamazoo
 
add wvu for me as well...were are all the other applicants. I guess that is why we are getting some interviews??
 
Man,
No one is posting on this thread......

In the last week, I received interviews at University of Minnesota and Tulane.

Hope to hear from more people out there and where they have heard from.
 
Just submitted my application today. I applied to 25 programs mostly southeast and south. Everyone says 25 is too many to apply to but I'm just scared. I'll keep you all updated on my process. Goodluck to all 🙂
 
I received interviews at Rochester and UofTenn (memphis) this week.....

Still no rejections yet
 
Hi all - I'm new to this forum, but coming from a non Med-Peds school, I'm a little lonely. I was hoping to get a little advice from you all. I have no idea how competitive an applicant I am for Med-Peds, and so far, I'm only applying to a few programs:
U Minn
Rush
U Mich Ann Arbor
U Rochester
Harvard
Brown
UNC Chapel Hill
I've got in-laws in the Midwest, family back East, but have been living in CA since undergrad - hence the willy-nilly geographic distribution. I'm at UCSF, and in the upper 20% or so of my class (we don't get official class rankings, but we do get an "adjective" on our Dean's letter - a little silly, I know). I got honors in core medicine and peds, as well as in senior medicine and peds. But my Step 1 scores weren't that great - 219. I directed a non-profit for four years before coming to med school, and have a decent amount of community service and social advocacy activities that I've done - but I'm not sure how much joint programs care about that stuff. Anyway, it's slim pickin's out here in terms of advice, so anything you have to offer would be greatly appreciated. Should I apply to more programs? which ones? what programs place an emphasis on community service/caring for the under-served? Thanks in advance for your help!
 
just adding VCU/MCV and maine medical to the list......and same here......no rejections!!
 
jimmybee said:
I received interviews at Rochester and UofTenn (memphis) this week.....

Still no rejections yet


That's awesome!!! Memphis is my top choice, how long did they take to respond to your AMCAS with secondaries and then schedule interview after you submitted secondaries?
 
Hey these are the interviews I've received this week so far:
1. Greenville, SC
2. U of Texas ? Houston
3. U of Texas ? Galveston
4. U of Tennessee ? Memphis
5. KU
6. SLU
- no rejections yet for me neither
 
Have any of you started to actually schedule your interviews yet? Have long do we have until we reply and set up the actual date? (I haven't yet)
 
......adding baystate, maine medical, and CWRU/metro to my list. I have scheduled a couple but not all. It is really getting hectic!!! My rotation this December is going to be all of about 3 days long with all this travel. I am glad everyone is getting positive feedback. Keep the posts coming!!
 
woops I said MMC twice....
 
shaminu said:
Hi all - I'm new to this forum, but coming from a non Med-Peds school, I'm a little lonely. I was hoping to get a little advice from you all. I have no idea how competitive an applicant I am for Med-Peds, and so far, I'm only applying to a few programs:
U Minn
Rush
U Mich Ann Arbor
U Rochester
Harvard
Brown
UNC Chapel Hill
I've got in-laws in the Midwest, family back East, but have been living in CA since undergrad - hence the willy-nilly geographic distribution. I'm at UCSF, and in the upper 20% or so of my class (we don't get official class rankings, but we do get an "adjective" on our Dean's letter - a little silly, I know). I got honors in core medicine and peds, as well as in senior medicine and peds. But my Step 1 scores weren't that great - 219. I directed a non-profit for four years before coming to med school, and have a decent amount of community service and social advocacy activities that I've done - but I'm not sure how much joint programs care about that stuff. Anyway, it's slim pickin's out here in terms of advice, so anything you have to offer would be greatly appreciated. Should I apply to more programs? which ones? what programs place an emphasis on community service/caring for the under-served? Thanks in advance for your help!

Just from what you've written, I certainly don't see a problem with your application. I mostly care if someone passed step I (not very predictive of residency performance), an 219 is by no means 'bad'. Also, UCSF is a 'name brand' school and a lot of dean's letters use the adjective bit.

You certainly haven't exhausted your possiblities in the upper midwest.
 
Wow.....
I didn't know people were responding to this thread.....It is great to hear from all of you. Congrats to everyone.

Since my last post, I have been offered interviews at Umich, U of Minnesota, Univ of South Carolina, and Grand Rapids.

No rejections yet.....And yes, I have scheduled a few interviews, but I am waiting on a couple more places.

I'll look forward to seeing some of you on the interview trail hopefully.
 
How many interviews is everyone planning to do?
 
I plan on doing ten, but I don't know if I can follow through with that many.
 
I plan on going to around ten as well.....adding ohio state and christiana DE
 
I'm also an applicant from a school that doesn't have a med-peds program, so it is very nice to find and on-line community here 🙂
I only have one interview so far at University of Cincinnati, which I'm very excited about since it seems to me like a solid program. Anybody from Ohio out there that knows more inside-scoop about this program? I also applied to Case Western (Rainbow Babies) and thinking about OSU and Case Western Metrohealth. My preference it to stay on the east coast (NYC, Boston, Philly, DC) but I am willing to venture west for good programs 😛

Please share if you have any advice about the OSU or Metrohealth!
I'll be in touch!

p.s. I didn't know Flushing Hospital had a med-peds program....is that the one in NYC?? Also what's up with the Brooklyn schools Maimonides and New York Methodist - do they not have a program anymore?
 
I've applied to about 25..

Couldn't decide between big university programs and community programs.. Anybody have any insight? I'm not considering any fellowships (want to be a med-peds hospitalist)... so I'm leaning towards community programs.

Interviews (thus far):
Baystate, MetroHealth, U. Missouri-Columbia, WVU (both programs), and Tulane.

Rejected: U. Minnesota

Waiting to hear:
Rush, U. Chicago, U. Wisconsin, Michigan-Ann Arbor, Mt. Sinai, Harvard, LSU, U Cincinnati, Phoenix Hosp, ECU, Greenville SC, Duke, UNC, Vandy, UAB.. and prob some others that aren't coming to mind...

Fun fun fun..
 
QAFMD2005 said:
I've applied to about 25..

....

Waiting to hear:
Rush, U. Chicago, U. Wisconsin, Michigan-Ann Arbor, Mt. Sinai, Harvard, LSU, U Cincinnati, Phoenix Hosp, ECU, Greenville SC, Duke, UNC, Vandy, UAB.. and prob some others that aren't coming to mind...

Fun fun fun..

U of WI does not have a Med-Peds program. The WI programs are at Medical College of Wisconsin and Marshfield Clinic/St Joseph's Hospital.

🙂
 
Med-Peds has fallen out of favor here in the NYC area. Evidently it is difficult to maintain a program with a good balance between the two (with peds usually being the problematic area).

I know Flushing used to have a program, but I don't think they are accepting applications this year (unless they are going out of match).

Maimo and Methodist both suspended their programs for lack of interest as did Downstate.

Anyone heard from Georgetown, UNC, Jackson-Memorial, or UMDNJ?
 
forncroj said:
U of WI does not have a Med-Peds program. The WI programs are at Medical College of Wisconsin and Marshfield Clinic/St Joseph's Hospital.

🙂
Ah, good point! that should have been Medical College of Wisconsin...
 
I'm feeling a little less anxious as now I, too, can contribute to the interview invitation list:
Rush, U Michigan Ann Arbor, U Minnesota, U Rochester

so far no rejections, but I'm preparing for the inevitable...

PS: forncroj - thanks for your perspective. what other programs would you recommend in the upper midwest?
 
shaminu said:
I'm feeling a little less anxious as now I, too, can contribute to the interview invitation list:
Rush, U Michigan Ann Arbor, U Minnesota, U Rochester

so far no rejections, but I'm preparing for the inevitable...

PS: forncroj - thanks for your perspective. what other programs would you recommend in the upper midwest?


Shaminu,

Looks like I may be running into you on the trail as I, too, am also interviewing at three of those four programs you listed.
 
not to jack the thread...

what does it mean for a program to be suspended? I'm in the new york area, I'd like to stick around here, and med/peds is certainly a possiblility for me. What gives with maimo and downstate? thanks!

lar
 
More to add to my invite to interview list:
7. U of Lousiville
8. U of Kentucky
9. LSU
10. U of S Florida
11. E Carolina
12. U of Missouri at KC
- haven't scheduled any yet bc I want to only do about 10 interviews so I have to sit down and try and figure out exactly which ones I want to do...
 
shaminu said:
I'm feeling a little less anxious as now I, too, can contribute to the interview invitation list:
Rush, U Michigan Ann Arbor, U Minnesota, U Rochester

so far no rejections, but I'm preparing for the inevitable...

PS: forncroj - thanks for your perspective. what other programs would you recommend in the upper midwest?
As much as I like to advertise, I like being somewhat anonymous. If I say much more, well, lets say I'm familiar with the MN and two WI programs, know the program directors, and believe all three are worthy of consideration.
 
How much does it matter for med-peds to go to a program that has a separate children's hospital? Also, is it generally better to interview later in January than, say, in November - does it really make much of a difference?

thanks! 🙂
 
magnolia014 said:
How much does it matter for med-peds to go to a program that has a separate children's hospital? Also, is it generally better to interview later in January than, say, in November - does it really make much of a difference?

thanks! 🙂
Advantages - probably larger, higher volume, more tertiary care, likely greater depth in faculty.
Disadvantages - more tertiary care, separate facilities=staying up-to-date with more than one facility's rules, computer system, politics.
Either way, when you finish your knowlege base is about the same and you sit for the same boards. I've not looked into how much the pass rate on the ABP exam differs between university programs (I think more likely to have a freestanding hospital, correct me if I'm wrong) and community programs.

As far as interviews go, am not sure what other PD's would say, but I don't think it makes much difference. We're probably not as accurate in our assessments early in the year, but this can work for or against you.
 
Adding to my list:
13. Maricopa - Phoenix, AZ
14. East Virginia
15. Indiana
16. Tulane
So far I've scheduled six interviews trying to wait til after Nov 1st to schedule the rest to see what other invites I'll get after the dean's letter goes out.
 
magnolia014 said:
How much does it matter for med-peds to go to a program that has a separate children's hospital? Also, is it generally better to interview later in January than, say, in November - does it really make much of a difference?

thanks! 🙂

At a Standalone Tertiary Children's Hospital:
-Increased breadth of experience--you will see all the "zebras" because they all come to you (and this may give you a skewed perception of what's common). Our pediatric rheumatology faculty claim this is a big asset of us training at the only children's hospital in the state; they are right to an extent.
-More exposure to subspecialty procedures, new technology, treatments etc (community programs will probably not be doing pediatric open heart, or stem cell transplants; community programs may not have an advanced PICU and NICU--unlikely opportunities for ECMO, HFOV, etc--this may be more relevant if you plan on subsequent subspecialty training especially if in critical care, cardiology, or hematology.)
-More potential for trauma exposure (Peds trauma centers are not usually at community hospitals)
-Higher volume, more opportunities for procedures, higher patient acuity (and I saw all of these as advantages for myself but other applicants may not)
-Do you get delivery experience? (You may have other opportunities within the system. Our system consists of 2 level 3 NICUs (one at our children's hospital) and 2 level 2 NICUs we get delivery experience in three of the four hospitals)
-For Med-Peds requires shuttling between at least two facilities (however this may or may not be difficult--at our institution the university medical center and our children's hospital are connected by both a tunnel and an above ground enclosed walkway)

I think ultimately there is no perfect program and the challenge is to figure out the program that is the best fit with your post residency goals. I chose to go to a University based program where we cover five hospitals. Although this may sound like a nightmare I've enjoyed the diversity. Our system consists of a standalone tertiary children's hospital (active stemcell and solid organs transplant program, large pediatric CV surgery program, regional perinatal center, the state pediatric burn unit, the pediatric critical care referal center for the state, one of two pediatric trauma centers in the state); a private tertiary care center (an adult level one trauma center and the other pediatric trauma center in the state; our system's adult CV surgery and cardiology center; an adult critical care referral center, they also have a level 3 NICU and do a lot of high risk OB (so you get a lot of delivery experience), their PICU, pediatrics floor, and pediatric rehab hospital sort of are a hospital within a hospital); a county hospital (level one adult trauma center, the main burn unit for the state, the county critical care referral center, and the hub of indigent care and public health in our county, there is a small pediatric floor and a level 2 NICU (another opportunity for delivery experience); a university medical center (the university hospital of our system, a major referral center for critical care, active stem cell and solid organs transplant program); and finally a tertiary VA medical center (solid ICU and cardiology opportunities, I'm sure the VA ward experience is similar to other VAs--although my medical school didn't have a VA affiliate so I was a bit surprised as an intern). For me this system provided a good balance between university and more community hospitals. Our PICUs and NICUs at both institutions are closed but our ICUs for the most part are open and I think I got more critical care experience as an intern than I might have gotten in some programs over the course of residency. For me this was a good thing but I plan on ultimately doing critical care and had I been geared more towards outpatient Med-Peds I might not have appreciated all of these opportunities.

As far as the interview time frame I don't think it really matters. Some of my class interviewed in November, some in January and we all matched here.
 
I received my first rejection today:-(. Baylor. That's okay. I will live.

Has anyone heard one way or the other on any of these programs:

UAB
Vanderbilt
Cincy
Duke
UNC
Yale
Providence
UPenn
 
jimmybee said:
Has anyone heard one way or the other on any of these programs:

UAB
Vanderbilt
Cincy
Duke
UNC
Yale
Providence
UPenn

I've had some contact with UPenn and Vanderbilt. UPenn's is going to start reviewing applications in early November and their first interview is on Dec. 15. I talked to the program coordinator at Vanderbilt about 1 week ago, and at that point she said they hadn't granted any interviews yet.

As far as who I've heard from, I've gotten interviews at Mt. Sinai, Tulane, University of Arkansas and Baylor, and I'm waiting to hear from UPenn, Vanderbilt, Harvard, UNC,South Carolina and Duke.

Thanks y'all for all the posts to this thread.
Mike
 
mjrcraig said:
As far as who I've heard from, I've gotten interviews at Mt. Sinai, Tulane, University of Arkansas and Baylor, and I'm waiting to hear from UPenn, Vanderbilt, Harvard, UNC,South Carolina and Duke.

Thanks y'all for all the posts to this thread.
Mike

South Carolina has sent out some interviews. I received one about 1 1/2 weeks ago. Just to let people out there know....
 
Thought I'd add my list to the collection. I didn't know how many interviews I'd get, so I applied to way too many programs (but better too many than too few).
Interviews offered
USC
Maricopa
Good Sam
Baylor
Tulane
UNC
Georgetown
U. of Cincinnati
Case Western (Metrohealth)
U. of Michigan
U. of Rochester
Baystate
Pittsburgh
Christiana Care
Yale (Bridgeport)
Brown
U. of Chicago
Rush

Not heard from:
Harvard
Vanderbilt
Duke
Yale (New Haven)
UCLA
UCSD
Michigan State


Good luck to all of you!!

-Brian
 
so far I've heard from:
UT Houston
UT Galveston
Baylor
Duke
U Mich-Ann Arbor
Cincinatti
U of Illinois
Loyola
 
Thought you all might be interested in some recent data - forgive me if you've seen this already.

-There are 293 USMG's applying for 365 positions. This does not include applicants from Osteopathic schools.

-USMG MedPeds applicants are applying to an average of 14.5 programs each.
 
Does this include foreign grads? I don't think so.....
 
Although that is great news for me, I am wondering how you could know that.
 
Sounds like good news to me! Where did you get your info from? Also when we go on interviews is it ok to ask how many students applied to their program and how many they are interviewing?
 
The data is valid as of Oct 10.

jimmybee: The number of IMG's applying is not included above.
Sheon, VitaminK: ERAS provides this info to schools and programs.
VitaminK: I think you can always ask - I'm not sure how other PD's feel abt it.
 
Update: I have recently heard from UCSD, Vanderbilt, and Duke about interviews. Has anyone heard from UCLA, Yale (New Haven), or Harvard?
 
I was talking to my PD at my school today and she said the applications for med-peds have gone up this year. Makes me more scared about how competitive its going to be for all of us 🙁
 
VitaminK said:
I was talking to my PD at my school today and she said the applications for med-peds have gone up this year. Makes me more scared about how competitive its going to be for all of us 🙁

As of Oct 10, the number of USMG was only 3 more than last year; the number of IMG's is up 14%. The avg number of applications per applicant is unchanged. The number of positions being offered may be down a bit - apparently the number of registered programs is down to 85, is usually in the nineties.
 
Has anyone heard from Vanderbilt yet?
 
I haven't heard from them......

Also, just to an update.....

I've been rejected so far from Baylor, UNC, and Duke

Still waiting on:
Providence
UAB
Vanderbilt
Uchicago
UCSD
UPenn

Anyone hear from UAB?

I am hopeful to hear from these places, but I am pretty much counting on that not happening. Especially when I know that some of them have granted interviews......

It's cool, though......
 
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