Medical schools won't accept it

[LizzyM]

---

Members do not see this ad.

I'm honestly unsure of the answer, though I suspect I know. Would OP have any better luck with the NP/PA route, since MD/DO are all but impossible with the Dishonorable on his DD214?

I have no idea what sort of hoops one jumps through to get into one of those programs. Would the military equivalent of a felony prevent admission and/or licensure? Not sure. By my calculations, the OP is close to 40 and was a grown-up when he got censured by the military. He's a big boy and his going to have to figure out things for himself. I am a bit resentful that he didn't give us the whole story at the outset and sent us on a wild goose chase with regard to CLEP, etc before we find out that he's pretty much inadmissable at any MD or DO school in America.

 

[fasttortoise]

I'm honestly unsure of the answer, though I suspect I know. Would OP have any better luck with the NP/PA route, since MD/DO are all but impossible with the Dishonorable on his DD214?

For the record, we got dishonorable discharge was only because superiors wanted to blame equipment damage on junior personnel.

I am not interested in NP/PA.

I am considering Australian and European medical programs and none of this should affect me if I practice in Australia or Europe.

 

[fasttortoise]

I am a bit resentful that he didn't give us the whole story at the outset and sent us on a wild goose chase with regard to CLEP, etc before we find out that he's pretty much inadmissable at any MD or DO school in America.

LizzyM, sorry but I had to sign papers to not discuss such things, so I naturally avoid mentioning this because more details filter out.

None of this changes the fact that I gave a good portion of my life for the country and I am being blamed for something that isn't my fault. We seven could all have taken the easy way out and blamed the one colleague who was indirectly responsible for equipment damage but we chose to protect him at the cost of our own careers. Medical schools should PREFER applicants like us.

 

[HereIgo2011]

how does this look?

something to consider in your situation...

Best of luck and thanks for your service

This look like Trunk Bay on St. John

 

[LizzyM]

LizzyM, sorry but I had to sign papers to not discuss such things, so I naturally avoid mentioning this because more details filter out.

None of this changes the fact that I gave a good portion of my life for the country and I am being blamed for something that isn't my fault. We seven could all have taken the easy way out and blamed the one colleague who was indirectly responsible for equipment damage but we chose to protect him at the cost of our own careers. Medical schools should PREFER applicants like us.

Saying, I served in the Marines for xx years and received a dishonorable discharge is all I needed -- not chapter and verse about why that happened. It is too bad you didn't have better legal representation to explain to you the consequences in civilian life of taking the deal or whatever it was that went down in military court. The fact is, all the time we spent finding CLEP info for veterans etc was wasted because you aren't eligible for those benefits and you most likely aren't eligible for US school.

Good luck to you.

 

[And I Was Like]

LizzyM, I have a follow-up question that doesn't pertain to me or anyone but out of sheer curiousity.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Don't ask Don't Tell discharges are Dishonorable, right?

Would that also be considered a death knell?

 

[Mithril]

LizzyM, I have a follow-up question that doesn't pertain to me or anyone but out of sheer curiousity.

Correct me if I'm wrong but Don't ask Don't Tell discharges are Dishonorable, right?

Would that also be considered a death knell?

DADT discharges aren't dishonourable. They're general discharges under honourable conditions for the most part.

 

[Ellegra]

My sole experience of this nature, as best I can recall, was a European applicant who did a PhD as an International student and then applied.... having a PhD from a US school was acceptable at my school which usually requires a bachelor's degree from a US or Canadian school.

There are 2,000+ schools on the list so it is likely you'll find one near you. Then contact the school to find out more about how a returning or non-traditional student can earn a degree.

Hi LizzyM,
besides the dishonorable discharge in this case I just want to clarify the degree question.
I have an international degree and as I understood the MD schools are not interested in it as long as it is already a bachelor or anything higher. Still, DO schools would like to see it. Although, med-schools do like to see the education done in the US, but, and if I'm not mistaken, they do accept the evaluation from the accredited agency and a statement that the international degree is the equivalent to the US degree. Therefore, taking the all necessary prerequisites in the US, plus some other classes to fulfill 90 units in the US should be good enough for the most med-schools and there is no need for another bachelor. Am I right?

 

[LizzyM]

Hi LizzyM,
besides the dishonorable discharge in this case I just want to clarify the degree question.
I have an international degree and as I understood the MD schools are not interested in it as long as it is already a bachelor or anything higher. Still, DO schools would like to see it. Although, med-schools do like to see the education done in the US, but, and if I'm not mistaken, they do accept the evaluation from the accredited agency and a statement that the international degree is the equivalent to the US degree. Therefore, taking the all necessary prerequisites in the US, plus some other classes to fulfill 90 units in the US should be good enough for the most med-schools and there is no need for another bachelor. Am I right?

Let me rephrase this question for you: I have an international degree. What do I need to do to be admitted to a US medical school? Will taking 90 credits at a US school be sufficient?

Answer: I have no idea. Contact the schools you'd like to attend and ask. The only experience I have with this is a international student who earned a PhD in the US and was interviewed at my school (I don't recall if the applicant was admitted).

 

[Morsetlis]

Your undergraduate degree is too old. I recommend an accelerated Bachelor's WITH all required prereq classes.

Nobody will believe that you were a Marine for 18 years and still remember stereochemistry of a glucopyranose.

Or, you could try for the Caribbeans.