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I was reading on Money Magazine about being a Medical Scientist. I randomly get these fears of abandoning my family for medicine and I was wondering how being a "Medical Scientist" compares. Should you get an MD, MD/PhD, or just PhD? What kind of fields can you research, or is it pretty unlimited so long as it is medical related? If you go the MD or MD/PhD route, can you get back into a residency if you decide later that you want to practice medicine? I am a huge nerd about researching anything medically related. I want to "help people", but really, medicine is more about the detective work and the knowledge. So would this be a more appropriate field? Or is this the right place to ask these questions?
 
dnw826 said:
I randomly get these fears of abandoning my family for medicine and I was wondering how being a "Medical Scientist" compares. Should you get an MD, MD/PhD, or just PhD?
haha, i'd be worried about abandoning my family for science, actually.

dnw826 said:
What kind of fields can you research, or is it pretty unlimited so long as it is medical related?
if the field is really different, you should ask yourself why you wanted both degrees. if you personally feel satisfied, i think anything goes. most people want to do something related to their practice though.

dnw826 said:
If you go the MD or MD/PhD route, can you get back into a residency if you decide later that you want to practice medicine?
most md/phd's go through residency before starting their actual research career. it's hard to get back in later, i believe.
 
dnw826 said:
Or is this the right place to ask these questions?

Sort of. Get 'grown-ups' (MDs, PhDs, MD/PhDs) who do these things to talk to you about it. This forum is pretty good for the logistics of applying to and going through the programs, but there's not many folks here who post beyond that step in their career.
 
This isn't a bad place to start asking these questions, but I agree with the above poster--you should supplement anything you learn here with the experiences of those who are actually out of school and living their career.

I randomly get these fears of abandoning my family for medicine and I was wondering how being a "Medical Scientist" compares. Should you get an MD, MD/PhD, or just PhD? What kind of fields can you research, or is it pretty unlimited so long as it is medical related?

As far as this goes, medicine requires a sometimes-unbelievable amount of your time. For many it is incredibly intellectually satisfying and otherwise rewarding. That being said, it is still possible to enjoy a family life, but you will have to set boundaries from the beginning and decide what is really important to you. If anything physician-scientists are even busier that many doctors, because they are trying to balance two careers at the same time. To be a successful scientist, a physician-scientist must compete with MDs, PhDs and MD/PhDs that are 100% committed to research (many of whom either don't have families/outside lives or don't seem to care whether or not they spend any time with them). So, if you want to head your own lab, and see patients, you are only adding to the amount of time you will be spending on your work. But again, that really depends on where you set your limits. There is no ceiling to ambition in this field, and no one is going to tell you to work less.

However, if you can resist the urge to (try to) be the next Linus Pauling, you can see patients and work with another PI to satisfy your intellectual curiosity. And there is no guarantee that working harder or working more will lead to scientific success (though it does increase the odds).

Basically, don't consider medicine if you don't want to work. But don't write it off as impossible to maintain a life, either.
 
bluegrass_druid said:
This isn't a bad place to start asking these questions, but I agree with the above poster--you should supplement anything you learn here with the experiences of those who are actually out of school and living their career.



As far as this goes, medicine requires a sometimes-unbelievable amount of your time. For many it is incredibly intellectually satisfying and otherwise rewarding. That being said, it is still possible to enjoy a family life, but you will have to set boundaries from the beginning and decide what is really important to you. If anything physician-scientists are even busier that many doctors, because they are trying to balance two careers at the same time. To be a successful scientist, a physician-scientist must compete with MDs, PhDs and MD/PhDs that are 100% committed to research (many of whom either don't have families/outside lives or don't seem to care whether or not they spend any time with them). So, if you want to head your own lab, and see patients, you are only adding to the amount of time you will be spending on your work. But again, that really depends on where you set your limits. There is no ceiling to ambition in this field, and no one is going to tell you to work less.

However, if you can resist the urge to (try to) be the next Linus Pauling, you can see patients and work with another PI to satisfy your intellectual curiosity. And there is no guarantee that working harder or working more will lead to scientific success (though it does increase the odds).

Basically, don't consider medicine if you don't want to work. But don't write it off as impossible to maintain a life, either.


It's not that I don't want to work by any means. I have just heard that being a "medical scientist" is a bit more family friendly. Guess I was wrong!
 
dnw826 said:
I have just heard that being a "medical scientist" is a bit more family friendly. Guess I was wrong!

Yeah, what you heard was pretty much wrong. It's very family UN-friendly in a number of ways, and this is why there's many fewer women in MD/PhD programs.
 
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