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Hi you all, I got into both michigan and temple and i was just wondering where you think is better, the pros and cons. I have to put a deposit on one of theses schools and i have not ade a decision yet. please tell me what you think. thanks.
 
Temple, 'cause I want your spot at Michigan!! 😀
just kidding, do whatever you want, I have never even been to Temple. congrats on all your acceptances. 👍 I think when it comes down to it each person has to make their own choice about which school they ft into better. all schools have their pros and cons, and certain aspects of schools are more important to one person than to another. so at the end of the day only you can decide which one suits your needs better.
 
Biogirl361 said:
Temple, 'cause I want your spot at Michigan!! 😀
just kidding, do whatever you want, I have never even been to Temple. congrats on all your acceptances. 👍 I think when it comes down to it each person has to make their own choice about which school they ft into better. all schools have their pros and cons, and certain aspects of schools are more important to one person than to another. so at the end of the day only you can decide which one suits your needs better.

but i can always adapt to any school, i just want to know the pros and cons of each school. i know temple has one od the best clinics, but why is michigan rated so high?
 
ecrdoubles15 said:
Hi you all, I got into both michigan and temple and i was just wondering where you think is better, the pros and cons. I have to put a deposit on one of theses schools and i have not ade a decision yet. please tell me what you think. thanks.

I honestly yelled out loud when I saw the thread title!! Michigan, hands down ecrdoubles!!!!! Jesh, where can I begin - I almost ended up at michigan. Um, michigan has amazing facilities - pre-dental lab, clinic, they have the biggest dental school library in the world. They get tons of money for research and have a huge research program. They're known for being great clinically. Ann arbor is a beautiful town, and the dental school is right with the undergrad campus, there's lots of hot undergrad girls. Sports there is huge. Someone may take one of the things I listed up there and single it out in a quote: but the whole package adds up.

The only down thing I heard is that Ann Arbor is pretty nice, and they sometimes have trouble getting patients for their class of a hundred or so. Oh man, go to michigan!!
 
ecrdoubles15 said:
but i can always adapt to any school, i just want to know the pros and cons of each school. i know temple has one od the best clinics, but why is michigan rated so high?

michigan is rated so high because of their outstanding research, contribution to the field of dentistry, and their clinical abilities.

You should rename this thread: "Gold vs. Crap"
 
fruity_trident said:
ouch! 😱 harsh! 👎 😱

ok, ok. I'm a troll. Temple's a good school, I'm just very passionate about UMichigan. We should all be so lucky as to get acceptances to two great schools like those.
 
but i hate the fact that it is connected to the undergraduate campus. im sick and tired of undergraduates since i am one. it doesn't have a professional feelings to it. also, temple has amazing clinic with more patients than anyone, intramural sports teams, private gym for health students, 3 dental fraternities, and much more opportunities for outreach. i agree michigan is good, but if i want to be a better dentist technique wise temple is better. why aren't you going to michigan? where you going to school delicious?
 
delicious said:
ok, ok. I'm a troll. Temple's a good school, I'm just very passionate about UMichigan. We should all be so lucky as to get acceptances to two great schools like those.

why are you so passionate?
 
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ecrdoubles15 said:
but i hate the fact that it is connected to the undergraduate campus. im sick and tired of undergraduates since i am one. it doesn't have a professional feelings to it. also, temple has amazing clinic with more patients than anyone, intramural sports teams, private gym for health students, 3 dental fraternities, and much more opportunities for outreach.

Hmm. You raise a few good points. Temple does have a ton of patients; way more than michigan I'd wager. I don't know much about intramural sports or gym at UMichigan, but fraternities/sororities are huge at UMichigan too.

You hate the fact that it is connected to the undergrad campus. 😕 Whoa, that's weird - when I applied that was a huge plus for me. I really wanted to have a community/school feel.

I dunno, they really are both great schools. I truly was kidding with my gold vs. crap thing. I like stirring up trouble. Yah-E can tell you all about that.

I'm a second year at an ivy, and I'm interested in research, so I guess that's why I have a lot of respect for UMichigan. Ask any old time dentist (aged 50+), and I bet they'll tell you all their textbooks were written by michigan professors.
 
so you are an undergraduate still? you are applying now?
 
ecrdoubles15 said:
why are you so passionate?

I'm starring in a new movie: Passion of The Delicious

I'm second year dental my son.
 
delicious said:
I'm starring in a new movie: Passion of The Delicious

I'm second year dental my son.

at what dental school? and why did you choose that school over michigan?
 
ecrdoubles15 said:
and why did you choose that school over michigan?

OK slim, here's the down-low. If you want to specialize at Michigan, or Temple, you'd have to work your butt off!! They rank at both schools, and I feel that sucks. Praise Jesus! At an ivy school, it's still a lot of work, but I feel it might be a little easier. Who knows 4 sure? But that's what I thought at the time.

Sounds to me like you'd be happier at Temple. Go for it! 🙂 :luck:

Oh oh oh.... food for thought: if you went to UMichigan you'd almost certainly need a car. Gadzooks.
 
delicious said:
OK slim, here's the down-low. If you want to specialize at Michigan, or Temple, you'd have to work your butt off!! They rank at both schools, and I feel that sucks. Praise Jesus! At an ivy school, it's still a lot of work, but I feel it might be a little easier. Who knows 4 sure? But that's what I thought at the time.

Sounds to me like you'd be happier at Temple. Go for it! 🙂 :luck:

Oh oh oh.... food for thought: if you went to UMichigan you'd almost certainly need a car. Gadzooks.

WHat school do you go to?
 
ecrdoubles15 said:
but i hate the fact that it is connected to the undergraduate campus. im sick and tired of undergraduates since i am one. it doesn't have a professional feelings to it. also, temple has amazing clinic with more patients than anyone, intramural sports teams, private gym for health students, 3 dental fraternities, and much more opportunities for outreach. i agree michigan is good, but if i want to be a better dentist technique wise temple is better. why aren't you going to michigan? where you going to school delicious?


This is one of the reasons why I fell in love with Michigan when I interviewed there was because of the undergraduate campus. You can just crawl out of bed and walk to campus. Hell, at other Dental schools, you may have to commute on the freaking expressway!!!!

Not to mention, college football is the GREATEST sport in the whole world. You can go to the Big House and learn a whole new meaning to the word "madness".

But anyway, the research contributions Michigan has done for Dentistry is just sick. Delicious already hit on that topic, and there are great opportunities for research even after or during your D1.

But you sound set on Temple, so I'd say follow yer heart man.
 
ecrdoubles15 said:
(temple has)... much more opportunities for outreach.

Ecrdoubles, I'd rather not mention my school - most of the time I'm a jerk on these forums and I don't want to make my school look bad.

But I just thought of another point about michigan. True, temple probably does have much more opportunities for outreach. But I remember some of the students at michigan mentioning the mandatory placement of 4th years in underserviced areas of michigan. In the Upper Penninsula, where it's pretty rural. I'm sure there's also opportunities to do stuff in poorer communities in Detroit. But that's probably out of the way, and nothing like the constant flow you'd get at Temple.

There's gotta be someone out there from UMichigan to help this young lad.
 
delicious said:
Ecrdoubles, I'd rather not mention my school - most of the time I'm a jerk on these forums and I don't want to make my school look bad.

But I just thought of another point about michigan. True, temple probably does have much more opportunities for outreach. But I remember some of the students at michigan mentioning the mandatory placement of 4th years in underserviced areas of michigan. In the Upper Penninsula, where it's pretty rural. I'm sure there's also opportunities to do stuff in poorer communities in Detroit. But that's probably out of the way, and nothing like the constant flow you'd get at Temple.

There's gotta be someone out there from UMichigan to help this young lad.

i dotn understand why you dont tell us your school. it wont make a school look bad if you act a certain way, it woudl just make you look bad.

oh yeah, what also attracted me to temple was the MBA that you can get at the same time for FREE! that is the best deal. and im not that into research, im sick of writing
 
Michigan is Cold. 😀 I tried to ride my bike to my anatomy final today and the lock was frozen, the brakes were frozen to the wheel, and i almost slid out once.

...alright, I'll be quiet now. 😀

no, in all seriousness i agree with basically everything delicious said about michigan, i think it's a great school and the one and only downside for me would be the possibility of fewer patients. but of course, you also said you're tired of the "college" atmosphere, and you're not going to get away from that at michigan. like i said before, everyone is looking for different aspects in a school, you have to go where you personally can best see yourself spending 4 more years.
 
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Hey Eric,

As a Temple student, lemme chime in here.....First, Im glad that you recognize and appreciate the strengths of Temple...looks like you really did your research!

However, I wouldnt downplay Michigan like you're doing. Michigan is a WONDERFUL, AMAZING all around school.....not only do they have reputation, college sports, great clinics, amazing research, but they are one of the top schools in the United States (or maybe the world) for dental public health, so I would honestly say that if you are really interested in doing outreach, that Michigan would be the better option.

Look dude, you have two pretty incredible schools to choose from, but if I were in your shoes, I would go for Michigan. Not that there is anything wrong with Temple, its just that Michigan in my opinion is one of the best schools in the country and I really regret not applyng there last year.
 
imo, i would go to michigan. at least i know more about it than temple. didnt they have a strong clinic? but it is kinda far from the airport though. like 40min or something. since they gave me an interview last year, i getta support that =)
btw, is ur name eric too?
 
ecdoesit said:
.. but it is kinda far from the airport though. like 40min or something. since they gave me an interview last year, i getta support that =)
btw, is ur name eric too?
in fact, it takes only ~20 minutes by car from Ann Arbor to DTW airport. not that far.. 🙂
 
the main reason i didn't chose to go to umich was because of those externships that they have to go on to like the far reaches of michigan for 3-4 months at a time. I was told it gets pretty darn chilly up there...and I figure if i can get the same variety of patients w/o having to do that was why i chose temple...the clinical training is just not as convenient...imho.... and also right outside of ann arbor is pretty boring...i forgot what road we were on but it was like there would be a group of stores then baron road for like 2 miles..then another group of stores...then baron road..etc...i dunno...it just wasn't for me...but the college atmosphere and div IA football, the girls.... (^_^)...all mighty tempting things. Maybe i'll go there to specialize...hmmm....hehehehe
 
cusp of carabelli said:
I was told it gets pretty darn chilly up there...and I figure if i can get the same variety of patients w/o having to do that

Wow, I didn't realize they were 3 to 4 months long. But let me add something here. Because it is a rural area and they are so underserved, you get opportunities to do procedures that you would normally never get to do in the city. For real, I think that this experience has its pluses.

cusp of carabelli said:
the girls.... (^_^)...all mighty tempting things.

Yes, here I agree. In fact, Jesus appeared to me once in a vision and told me this: "Yo delicious, those girls at UMichigan are phat!!! I don't mean fat fat, I mean they're damn fine!! Alleliua" Afterwards, the clouds parted on that overcast day and a rainbow appeared - it seemed to stretch from me to Ann Arbor Michigan. It was a pretty intense vision, and it moved me something fierce.

Thanks be to god.
 
delicious said:
Wow, I didn't realize they were 3 to 4 months long. But let me add something here. Because it is a rural area and they are so underserved, you get opportunities to do procedures that you would normally never get to do in the city. For real, I think that this experience has its pluses.



Yes, here I agree. In fact, Jesus appeared to me once in a vision and told me this: "Yo delicious, those girls at UMichigan are phat!!! I don't mean fat fat, I mean they're damn fine!! Alleliua" Afterwards, the clouds parted on that overcast day and a rainbow appeared - it seemed to stretch from me to Ann Arbor Michigan. It was a pretty intense vision, and it moved me something fierce.

Thanks be to god.
obviously it didn't scare you enough b/c you didn't go there... 😱 😀
i dunno...the city of philadelphia in general is pretty underserved...i'd even bet to say we get more interesting procedures here than rural michigan.....
 
cusp of carabelli said:
obviously it didn't scare you enough b/c you didn't go there... 😱 😀

I'm not really sure what you mean here: I did interview at michigan, was accepted, and decided not to go. If I hadn't gotten into the school I'm at now I would've gone there. 🙂

But yeah, there are a bunch of barren (spl) roads up there. I think you'd pretty much have to make your own fun in house parties and stuff - not much of a club scene there. But with my point about doing procedures. It's not that you wouldn't get interesting cases in say downtown philadelphia. It's that when you're the only dentist in a small community, you get to perform the odd procedures yourself. And you get good at doing things you might normally not be expected to do. And people don't mind you practicing things on them - because if you weren't doing it, nobody would!!
 
delicious said:
I'm not really sure what you mean here: I did interview at michigan, was accepted, and decided not to go. If I hadn't gotten into the school I'm at now I would've gone there. 🙂

But yeah, there are a bunch of barren (spl) roads up there. I think you'd pretty much have to make your own fun in house parties and stuff - not much of a club scene there. But with my point about doing procedures. It's not that you wouldn't get interesting cases in say downtown philadelphia. It's that when you're the only dentist in a small community, you get to perform the odd procedures yourself. And you get good at doing things you might normally not be expected to do. And people don't mind you practicing things on them - because if you weren't doing it, nobody would!!

you just described the all the patients in philadelphia that are on wellfare and use their insurance to have you fix their teeth that they've neglected for years..and because all the local dentists in the area don't accept the medicaid that these people have....they have nobody else to turn to. (one of my pts haven't been to a dentist in like 15 yrs)...now after a thorough cleaning ScRP, some fillings, some endo, and some soon to be fixed prosth, and ortho work he's brining me presents and food everytime i see him. Philly might be a "big city" but it's piss poor....and it shows in like 85-90% of the city....people are at the school at 6:30 in the AM hoping to get a spot in the emergency clinic to be seen that day...after my first 3 months in the clinic i've extracted 30 teeth already, performed electrosurgery to remove excess gingival tissue, (actually that's not a lot compared to some of my classmates have been doing alveloplaties, assisting in perio/endo surgery, etc....and yeah....we've only been in the clinic for like 5 months now..again..it's all the luck of the draw in the patients you get...but there is a big pool out there...) i would rival that kind of exposure to the ones in rural michigan any day...
 
cusp of carabelli said:
you just described the all the patients in philadelphia that are on wellfare and use their insurance to have you fix their teeth that they've neglected for years..and because all the local dentists in the area don't accept the medicaid that these people have....they have nobody else to turn to. (one of my pts haven't been to a dentist in like 15 yrs)...now after a thorough cleaning ScRP, some fillings, some endo, and some soon to be fixed prosth, and ortho work he's brining me presents and food everytime i see him. Philly might be a "big city" but it's piss poor....and it shows in like 85-90% of the city....people are at the school at 6:30 in the AM hoping to get a spot in the emergency clinic to be seen that day...after my first 3 months in the clinic i've extracted 30 teeth already, performed electrosurgery to remove excess gingival tissue, (actually that's not a lot compared to some of my classmates have been doing alveloplaties, assisting in perio/endo surgery, etc....and yeah....we've only been in the clinic for like 5 months now..again..it's all the luck of the draw in the patients you get...but there is a big pool out there...) i would rival that kind of exposure to the ones in rural michigan any day...

wow, that's some quality info you provided, cusp. impressive! it makes me look forward to temple even more. thanks for sharing! 👍
 
im guessing delicious goes to loma linda and is way too bored over there.
 
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KobeInnocent said:
im guessing delicious goes to loma linda and is way too bored over there.

stop dissing loma linda, its a great school.
 
I know someone who grad from dental school at temple, he didnt hate it or anything, but he said its a real bad area, and you could see bums on campus passed out.
 
UCDavisdude said:
I know someone who grad from dental school at temple, he didnt hate it or anything, but he said its a real bad area, and you could see bums on campus passed out.

Really??? Bums in a City?? 😱 You lie! I dont believe it!
 
delicious said:
I honestly yelled out loud when I saw the thread title!! Michigan, hands down ecrdoubles!!!!! Jesh, where can I begin - I almost ended up at michigan. Um, michigan has amazing facilities - pre-dental lab, clinic, they have the biggest dental school library in the world. They get tons of money for research and have a huge research program. They're known for being great clinically. Ann arbor is a beautiful town, and the dental school is right with the undergrad campus, there's lots of hot undergrad girls. Sports there is huge. Someone may take one of the things I listed up there and single it out in a quote: but the whole package adds up.

The only down thing I heard is that Ann Arbor is pretty nice, and they sometimes have trouble getting patients for their class of a hundred or so. Oh man, go to michigan!!

its amazing that people think michigan is such a great clinical school...they have a huge lack of patients. ann arbor is not type of town that you will get a lot of patients in. if you are looking for a good clinical school, go somewhere where you will see lots of patients, not u of m. if you want a great research school, u of m is fantastic, hard to beat.
 
EMORYswim said:
its amazing that people think michigan is such a great clinical school...they have a huge lack of patients. ann arbor is not type of town that you will get a lot of patients in. if you are looking for a good clinical school, go somewhere where you will see lots of patients, not u of m. if you want a great research school, u of m is fantastic, hard to beat.

first of all u of m is a great school clinically as well. they go to other disadvataged places aroudn there for months at a time. patients arent'a promblem there according to students. also, they send many of their students to specialities.
 
delicious said:
I honestly yelled out loud when I saw the thread title!! Michigan, hands down ecrdoubles!!!!! Jesh, where can I begin - I almost ended up at michigan. Um, michigan has amazing facilities - pre-dental lab, clinic, they have the biggest dental school library in the world. They get tons of money for research and have a huge research program. They're known for being great clinically. Ann arbor is a beautiful town, and the dental school is right with the undergrad campus, there's lots of hot undergrad girls. Sports there is huge. Someone may take one of the things I listed up there and single it out in a quote: but the whole package adds up.

The only down thing I heard is that Ann Arbor is pretty nice, and they sometimes have trouble getting patients for their class of a hundred or so. Oh man, go to michigan!!
Temple is better than Michigan. This is well know nationally and internationally
 
delicious said:
Wow, I didn't realize they were 3 to 4 months long. But let me add something here. Because it is a rural area and they are so underserved, you get opportunities to do procedures that you would normally never get to do in the city. For real, I think that this experience has its pluses.



Yes, here I agree. In fact, Jesus appeared to me once in a vision and told me this: "Yo delicious, those girls at UMichigan are phat!!! I don't mean fat fat, I mean they're damn fine!! Alleliua" Afterwards, the clouds parted on that overcast day and a rainbow appeared - it seemed to stretch from me to Ann Arbor Michigan. It was a pretty intense vision, and it moved me something fierce.

Thanks be to god.
Stop blaspheming please.
 
uhh, in an orgiastic drug-induced "vision" for post DAT celebration, I saw jesus licking my balls... would that be blasphemy?
 
chadDMD said:
Stop blaspheming please.


Whats with you reviving old threads? Nothing better to do?
 
i go to michigan-The externships last 2-4 weeks and there are plenty of patients in ann arbor, trust me I can't even schedule all mine.

word
 
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whatever

delicious said:
Ask any old time dentist (aged 50+), and I bet they'll tell you all their textbooks were written by michigan professors.
 
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