Midwest programs

[Notanerd]

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Hey hope this finds everyone well; I am in internal medicine at a very strong academic program and am leaving for anesthesia this year so I have to go back in the match bc of the new " all in" policy with the match. I have a limited number of programs I can travel to for interviews so wondering if anyone has any experience with matching in the midwest and SE, stats or cutoffs always help. I was previously in a larger midwest city and not wanting to go back to that hectic lifestyle so trying to stay away from boston chicago new york

Also any other recs on were to apply

Specifically anyone know about
UPMC I heard its highly academic and they push to publish;
PENN
DUKE
UNC
WAKE FOREST; the website called it self a top 5 program
Cleveland Clinic; heard its a factory
University Hospitals Case Medical Center; have heard good and bad
Ohio State
Vandy
Iowa


Thanks in advance

 

[bigdan]

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I'm a CA3 at UPMC now; while you can find a ton of active research here (one of only a few T32 anesthesiology sites in the USA, dedicated resident research rotations, etc), I'm sure you'll find there is very little pressure to publish as a resident here, if any at all. Of course, if you tell an attending about a cool case, he/she might say "You should write that up", but I can tell you with assurance that the vast majority - probably more than 80-85% of residents don't publish while here at UPMC.

We've got a very broad caseload and a very humane schedule. If you wanted to get into scholarly work, there is increasing support for that, too. I left NY for Pittsburgh, and it's treated me quite well. It's 20 residents a year, and we do go to 6-8 hospitals during the residency (all nearby, a lot to handle at the start, but I think ends up being good at the end). If you want fellowships, we've got a bunch to offer, and our residents are going to highly competitive programs if not staying here.

If you want/need the midwest, check us out. http://www.anes.upmc.edu/education/residency_program/section_residency.aspx

 

[WashMe]

bump... very interested in this as well. Particularly the following:

Michigan
Ohio State
Cincinnati
Cleveland Clinic
Barnes Jewish
Pittsburgh
Duke
Wake Forest
Kentucky

 

[Stank811]

I only applied in the midwest for residency and interviewed at the majority of the "top" programs in the midwest and recommend adding Medical College of Wisconsin to the list of residency programs to apply to. I could not be happier with the training and the staff/residents at MCW. Very strong clinical experience across the board with an administration that is constantly communicating with the residents to make the program better. If you have any questions about the program please feel free to ask or PM me.

 

[MilkmanAl]

I'm really enjoying how few of these schools are actually in the midwest.

Kentucky, Iowa, and MCW are definitely good choices. I'd also give KU a shot, even though the intern year here is pretty awful, and it certainly doesn't have the name power of some of those other programs you guys are tossing around. At the very least, it's worth a nice free hotel downtown and a swanky steak dinner to you. 😛

 

[leaverus]

guys, this type of thread comes up practically every year. in reality, it matters little where you do residency - neither for jobs nor fellowships; and 99.9% of your future patients won't care so don't let perceived "prestige" sway you. all programs have to adhere to specific guidelines set down by the rrc so you're gonna get trained well almost anywhere you go. choose based on whether you'll be happy at that program or not.

 

[Notanerd]

So when I posted this it really had nothing to do with prestige or academic greatness. Just curios about programs and their characteristics. Since I'm already am intern in IM i have very little time to interviews so I would like to stay away from places that are known as malignant or where people have had bad experiences

 

[Stank811]

I agree you should pick the program that fits your needs the best and the place that will make you happiest but even though the RRC requires a certain level of compentancy it still allows a large amount of wiggle room on total numbers/clinical experience and quality of didactics, etc

 

[leaverus]

even though the RRC requires a certain level of compentancy it still allows a large amount of wiggle room on total numbers/clinical experience and quality of didactics, etc

yes, but not enough to make a significant difference among MOST programs. a good program isn't gonna make a good anesthesiologist out of a bad resident and a bad program isn't gonna make a bad anesthesiologist out of a good resident. like jet says, you either wield the force or you don't.