Military Neonatology

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I am currently a senior in high school and I am considering doing ROTC but I am trying to figure out if that is the right fit for me. I want to be a military doctor and a neonatologist. I am just not sure there is much room for this in the military. I have heard that if I go the ROTC route I wouldn't be able to choose my medical specialty so the likelihood of being a neonatologist is very slim. I feel like I have to choose between these two dreams: become a military doctor, but not be a neonatologist OR be a neonatologist, but not in the military.

Am I right about this?

Are there options outside of ROTC that would guarantee I would earn my degree in neonatology but still allow me to be a military doctor?

I guess I am just sort of confused about it all and need some advice.

(Also, I'm new here so I apologize if I am doing something wrong.)

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I am currently a senior in high school and I am considering doing ROTC but I am trying to figure out if that is the right fit for me. I want to be a military doctor and a neonatologist. I am just not sure there is much room for this in the military. I have heard that if I go the ROTC route I wouldn't be able to choose my medical specialty so the likelihood of being a neonatologist is very slim. I feel like I have to choose between these two dreams: become a military doctor, but not be a neonatologist OR be a neonatologist, but not in the military.

Am I right about this?

Are there options outside of ROTC that would guarantee I would earn my degree in neonatology but still allow me to be a military doctor?

I guess I am just sort of confused about it all and need some advice.

(Also, I'm new here so I apologize if I am doing something wrong.)

1) Do not joint ROTC if you want to be a physician (even a military physician). If you wish to be a military physician, complete college as a civilian and then join the military by taking a military scholarship to medical school, or by going to the military medical school, or by taking a military scholarship during residency, or by joining once you're a fully trained physician. ROTC is designed to produce war fighting officers. You may not be allowed to go to medical school. The time requirements of ROTC may hurt your grades and keep you from going to medical school. On the off chance you do go to medical school you will be forced to accept a length of commitment that is far, far to long for an organization you've never worked with (you'll be trapped until you're almost 40). And even if you get to go to medical school, have good enough grades to go, and enjoy your never ending commitment ROTC will STILL be a bad decision because the military will pay you less than the doctors who waited until later to join.

2) One step at a time. Right now you're a premed. To turn into a medical student you're going to need to keep a minimum of a 3.5 (ideally), take a lot of bio classes, shadow, volunteer, kill a painful standardized test called the MCAT, and do at least a couple of things to make yourself interesting as a person (on paper, anyway). That's jsut to apply to medical school. Then after 4 years of that you need to choose a residency: pediatrics, surgery, internal medicine, whatever. Then, if you choose Peds after 3 years of residency, you need another 3 years of fellowship to become a neonatologist. You're looking a LONG way down the road, which isn't always bad (especially when making life commitements like ROTC) but don't get so caught up in future problems you forget about the immediate premedical requirements.

3) Experiment: If you can manage it without screwing up your grades, college is supposed to be one of the best experiences of your life. And the trick to making it great without f-ing your grades is not to overcommit. Don't pile on boring, time sucking responsibilities. Also consider MANY careeers, and try out many of them. There may be a better fit for you. Military neonatology is a good dream (and is currently in my top 3 career choices as a military Pediatric resident) but at this point you don't have enough data to make an objective choice about the right career for you. You might be happier in finance, or law enforcement, or teaching, or engineering, or as a priest, or as a war fighting line officer. Be open to possibilities.

4) In case you still want it: If you get to medical school, and decide that you want to be in the military as a physician, and decide that Pediatrics was your favorite rotation, and decide that neonatology was your favorite rotation during residency, and aren't too burned out to apply after your residency and utilization tour, then yes: the military has a large and robust neonatology program. When you get that far you can read more about our residency selection process, but the major military hospitals all have large (30 bed) high acuity NICUs staffed by military neonatologists. Marines make many babies.

Don't join ROTC.
 
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I am currently a senior in high school and I am considering doing ROTC but I am trying to figure out if that is the right fit for me. I want to be a military doctor and a neonatologist. I am just not sure there is much room for this in the military. I have heard that if I go the ROTC route I wouldn't be able to choose my medical specialty so the likelihood of being a neonatologist is very slim. I feel like I have to choose between these two dreams: become a military doctor, but not be a neonatologist OR be a neonatologist, but not in the military.

Am I right about this?

Are there options outside of ROTC that would guarantee I would earn my degree in neonatology but still allow me to be a military doctor?

I guess I am just sort of confused about it all and need some advice.

(Also, I'm new here so I apologize if I am doing something wrong.)

If you are dead set on going to medical school, then ROTC might not be your best choice. I think the ROTC guys compete with West Point and others for slots to attend medical school. as ROTC, there's always a chance you'll have to complete your ROTC commitment before you can go back to medical school. Honestly, I would just focus on going to your most affordable undergraduate institution and doing as best you can there and skipping ROTC.

once you get into medical school, you can apply for a program called HPSP. there are pros and cons to this program, which can be found in this forum. my advice is that you should think carefully before you accept the scholarship. if service is more important to you than flexibility, by all means go ahead.

if you do decide on the army, and medical school, and pediatrics, and neonatology...there are a few neonatology fellowships in the army, at San Antonio (BAMC), Tacoma (Madigan), and Hawaii (Tripler). If you are competitive, and it is in the budget, you have a chance at completing a fellowship. i would be sure that you could handle potentially working in general pediatrics, because there's always a chance you could get stuck doing that instead of being selected to complete a fellowship.
 
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First, good for you for knowing what you want to do. Second, don't be afraid to change your mind in the coming years. When I went to college I was certain I was going to be a submarine officer. I ended up driving ships. When I started medical school I was certain that I wanted to be an Orthopedic surgeon. I will not. You may very well end up a neonatologist, but you are probably just as likely to end up a surgeon or not in medicine at all. Any of those options is a good choice if it fits who you are and what you want to do.

Do NOT go to ROTC if you want to go to medical school. The same could be said for West Point, Annapolis and the AF Academy. Can you go to medical school from these institutions? Yes, but the odds are not in your favor. Perrotfish is right. The Academies and ROTC are designed to develop line officers (i.e. ships, subs, planes, helos, tanks, infantry etc). If they need more line officers, they will preferentially fill those billets before they fill billets like medical corps and you will be expected to say "Yes Sir" and become the best infantry officer you can be. If you want to be a doctor, go to college and then look into USUHS or HPSP. Or wait until after medical school. Or wait until after residency. The point is you have lots of options to become a military physician if that is what you choose to do. Choosing ROTC at this point will only restrict your options.

As an aside, ROTC does not compete with the academies for medical school billets. The Academies are each allotted 15 medical/dental school billets per year by congressional law. I'm sure ROTC has their own quota, but I don't know the number and I don't know that it is guaranteed like the Academy quotas are.

Good luck to you. If I can be of any help to you let me know.
 
First, good for you for knowing what you want to do. Second, don't be afraid to change your mind in the coming years. When I went to college I was certain I was going to be a submarine officer. I ended up driving ships. When I started medical school I was certain that I wanted to be an Orthopedic surgeon. I will not. You may very well end up a neonatologist, but you are probably just as likely to end up a surgeon or not in medicine at all. Any of those options is a good choice if it fits who you are and what you want to do.

Do NOT go to ROTC if you want to go to medical school. The same could be said for West Point, Annapolis and the AF Academy. Can you go to medical school from these institutions? Yes, but the odds are not in your favor. Perrotfish is right. The Academies and ROTC are designed to develop line officers (i.e. ships, subs, planes, helos, tanks, infantry etc). If they need more line officers, they will preferentially fill those billets before they fill billets like medical corps and you will be expected to say "Yes Sir" and become the best infantry officer you can be. If you want to be a doctor, go to college and then look into USUHS or HPSP. Or wait until after medical school. Or wait until after residency. The point is you have lots of options to become a military physician if that is what you choose to do. Choosing ROTC at this point will only restrict your options.

As an aside, ROTC does not compete with the academies for medical school billets. The Academies are each allotted 15 medical/dental school billets per year by congressional law. I'm sure ROTC has their own quota, but I don't know the number and I don't know that it is guaranteed like the Academy quotas are.

Good luck to you. If I can be of any help to you let me know.

having done rotc + hpsp, totally agree.

this was a big reason i didn't consider the academies-- with rotc at the time there wasn't a year quota for medical school attendees. knowing my luck i'd be with a strong year group and be 16th in the medschool pecking order. . .

--your friendly neighborhood rotc alumnus caveman
 
Do NOT go to ROTC if you want to go to medical school.

If I may add a clarification - do NOT got to ROTC if you want to go directly to medical school.

I went ROTC - fleet - med school. It's not the easiest route, but is possible. It was the right choice for me -- I knew that med school straight out of college would have been a disaster. I needed to "see the world." Having done that, I was ready to get into the business of medicine.

But it does make the route a little harder. Not insurmountably.
 
If I may add a clarification - do NOT got to ROTC if you want to go directly to medical school.

The more I think about it the more I think a better way to say it is "don't go to the Academies/ROTC if you wouldn't be happy to delay medical school 4-5 years while you do something besides medicine."

I was in the same boat as numberwunn. Academy-Fleet-Med School. Best choice I ever made to delay med school. I didn't know it would be 5 years, but that wouldn't have changed my decision. Lots of my friends when straight to med school, and for them that was the right choice.

Do your research, talk to those who have already been where you are trying to go, but at the end of the day you have to trust yourself and make the best decision for you regardless of what anyone else tells you.
 
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