Military Osteopathic Medical Students

[Portier]

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Hello all,

I thought I'd start a thread for people who are either on the HPSP scholarship at Osteopathic schools, or were in the military before they started being an OMS.

You can ask all your questions 😕 on this thread, and hopefully get your answers.

I was in the Navy 10 years (3 years with Marines) before school, for reference. 😎

Oh yeah...feel free to post tomfoolery, too....

 

[iatrosB]

You have seen the military medicine forum down below haven't you?

 

[Portier]

You have seen the military medicine forum down below haven't you?

I guess I didn't...
hmmm

 

[Portier]

You have seen the military medicine forum down below haven't you?

There are military threads I saw in the military place.

There are also probably osteopathic military threads in the 12 pages of threads, but I only looked at the first 5 then decided to make my own.

If this atrophies, that's ok....I just thought I'd put a feeler out.

 

[iatrosB]

Cool, just thought I'd give you a heads up.

 

[kaikai128]

Portier~

After being in the Navy and Marines, have you chosen to go the HPSP way thru medical school? Did you stay with the Navy?

I am going to be a HPSP student with the AF next year, just thought I would say hi. And about posting in this forum, I don't think it is entirely a bad idea. I feel as if I have my eyes wide open going into this, but don't really like that forum bc one view always seems to attempt to trump everything else that others say.

 

[iatrosB]

And about posting in this forum, I don't think it is entirely a bad idea. I feel as if I have my eyes wide open going into this, but don't really like that forum bc one view always seems to attempt to trump everything else that others say.

That is very true, good point.

 

[Portier]

Portier~

After being in the Navy and Marines, have you chosen to go the HPSP way thru medical school? Did you stay with the Navy?

I am going to be a HPSP student with the AF next year, just thought I would say hi. And about posting in this forum, I don't think it is entirely a bad idea. I feel as if I have my eyes wide open going into this, but don't really like that forum bc one view always seems to attempt to trump everything else that others say.

I took the HPSP scholarship, because as a medic, it was the only option at the time to get into medical school. You see, I was enlisted which made me owned by the enlisted side of the house. I was accepted to medical school, but that didn't change the fact that I was still enlisted. I applied for the HPSP scholarship, which alleviated me of my enlisted requirements, and ensured I would get to go to school.

One week after I got my acceptance into the HPSP program they Stop-gapped (or stop-loss) the 8482 (that was my NEC or Naval Enlisted Classification...in this case Marine Corps Field Medic) Corpsmen. IF I wouldn't have taken the scholarship I would still likely be in Iraq. It was the smart choice for me for that reason.

I also have my ten years in service, so with the 6 months of Active time I accumulate during Med school (45 days Active x 4 years) plus 1 year of internship, plus 2 years of FP residency, plus 4 years of payback, I end up at 17.5 years of service, and 2.5 years away from a 20 year retirement.

That's not a bad deal.

Add to that my 10 years of service as a paychart modifier, and O-3E status, it was a really easy decision to make.

I also have wanted to wear Navy Officer uniforms since my first day enlisted, 13OCT93.

I can tell you very surely about how the Navy Medical Department works, and how the Marine Corps uses Navy Doctors and Corpsmen.

The things I know about the Army, and Air Force are from my experience with them during service (which is minimal), and from friends of mine who are still on active and have associations with other services due to aviation and/or executive medical assignments.

I also understand what you mean about trumping. It's a standard response from the uninitiated. They all want to try to look like they know what's going on "IN" their service. Problem is most of these guys haven't served one day of active duty outside OIS/OBC (which rightly earns them the title "boot camp") and are talking out their arses.

I would reccomend you always take the advice in the perspective of WHO is giving it. If their at the same stage as you, and can't list any PERSONAL specific experiences that are convincing, they're likely bloviating.

Bloviation is also sort of common in service. We call them "Ricky Rumors." Ricky is a nickname given to Recruits...as in Seaman Recruit. The sailor on the cover of the notebooks we carried we called Ricky.

Man, I'm too damn old to be out dancing until 2AM. I should be in bed, not writing messages...but hell, I'll only be in med school with all the attractive, intelligent, and good dancing girls once, and I waited 10 years to get here.....

I hope that helps..

Feel free to ask more questions...I'll field the ones i can.

 

[Homunculus]

There are military threads I saw in the military place.

There are also probably osteopathic military threads in the 12 pages of threads, but I only looked at the first 5 then decided to make my own.

If this atrophies, that's ok....I just thought I'd put a feeler out.

you didn't find any because i usually move them to the military forum. reason being, people in your situation are probably going to look there first-- and it is easier to find there vs. getting lost in the shuffle of the osteopathic forum.

the military forum isn't one sided at all-- we have a lot of viewpoints. it just happens that a couple of people are more prolific at posting them than others 🙂

--your friendly neighborhood osteofantastic caveman

 

[kaikai128]

you didn't find any because i usually move them to the military forum. reason being, people in your situation are probably going to look there first-- and it is easier to find there vs. getting lost in the shuffle of the osteopathic forum.

the military forum isn't one sided at all-- we have a lot of viewpoints. it just happens that a couple of people are more prolific at posting them than others 🙂

--your friendly neighborhood osteofantastic caveman

I agree...there are all sides. It just happens that in life, those who are happy tend to not say as much as those who are unhappy

 

[Portier]

I agree...there are all sides. It just happens that in life, those who are happy tend to not say as much as those who are unhappy

The squeaky wheel gets the grease, but....

When you're too squeaky too often, no one pays attention.....

 

[jmarra03]

Hi I'm a newbie to the Navy ( commissioned in July ) but I am really excited and looking to chat with others who are in. My email is [email protected]. Hope to talk to you all soon

Janelle

 

[medicine1]

Hello! Nice to meet you all. I recieved the Armed Forces Health Professions Scholarship through the Air Force this past November 2004. I will be attending TUCOM-Nevada this coming August. I have been talking with Program coordinators at the different Air Force Medical Centers that provide residency programs. Many say that the most important thing to do, besides making the grade, is planning for your clerkship rotations.

One of the first concerns I had, when joining, was the acceptance of the COMLEX, instead of the USMLE for Military residency programs. I am also concerned about getting an internship that the AOA approves, while still being guaranteed a residency slot after internship through the Air Force.
I know the AOA provides exceptions for those who are accepted into a military residency program.
Any thoughts?

Lt Mark Stevens
TUCOM-Nevada
Class of 2009 🙂

 

[Portier]

Hi I'm a newbie to the Navy ( commissioned in July ) but I am really excited and looking to chat with others who are in. My email is [email protected]. Hope to talk to you all soon

Janelle

I'll hit you up in the email....

 

[cdreed]

Hello! Nice to meet you all. I recieved the Armed Forces Health Professions Scholarship through the Air Force this past November 2004. I will be attending TUCOM-Nevada this coming August. I have been talking with Program coordinators at the different Air Force Medical Centers that provide residency programs. Many say that the most important thing to do, besides making the grade, is planning for your clerkship rotations.

One of the first concerns I had, when joining, was the acceptance of the COMLEX, instead of the USMLE for Military residency programs. I am also concerned about getting an internship that the AOA approves, while still being guaranteed a residency slot after internship through the Air Force.
I know the AOA provides exceptions for those who are accepted into a military residency program.
Any thoughts?

Lt Mark Stevens
TUCOM-Nevada
Class of 2009 🙂

Not to worry. The military was the first government agency to "legitimize" the DO profession back in the '60s. The JSGME board knows what the COMLEX is and readily accepts the scores. Regarding the internship regulation, you will simply need to apply for a waiver from the AOA. From my understanding, most military DOs that do a military residency follow this route without any problems.

Hope this helps.

Cyndi

 

[medicine1]

Thank you for your input Cyndi! 🙄

 

[Portier]

Not to worry. The military was the first government agency to "legitimize" the DO profession back in the '60s. The JSGME board knows what the COMLEX is and readily accepts the scores. Regarding the internship regulation, you will simply need to apply for a waiver from the AOA. From my understanding, most military DOs that do a military residency follow this route without any problems.

Hope this helps.

Cyndi

Sorry it took a while to get to this line..

The initial response it absolutely correct.

I didn't know we even had DO's or that there was a difference (DO vs MD)until I started applying to schools.

 

[almostfamous]

I also have my ten years in service, so with the 6 months of Active time I accumulate during Med school (45 days Active x 4 years) plus 1 year of internship, plus 2 years of FP residency, plus 4 years of payback, I end up at 17.5 years of service, and 2.5 years away from a 20 year retirement.

That's not a bad deal.

Add to that my 10 years of service as a paychart modifier, and O-3E status, it was a really easy decision to make.


I thought that there wasn't any time that counted towards retirement while you are in school. Everyone at OIS told us that the time clock for retirement started when you commission 03 upon graduation.

 

[Biodork111]

Hey Janelle! You were my tour guide at UNECOM on 1/13. I am in the process of applying for the HPSP through the Navy as well. I'm pretty psyched.

I was wondering if you could tell me a little more about officer school, as I would have to attend over the summer.


-Ryan-Marie

 

[Portier]

I also have my ten years in service, so with the 6 months of Active time I accumulate during Med school (45 days Active x 4 years) plus 1 year of internship, plus 2 years of FP residency, plus 4 years of payback, I end up at 17.5 years of service, and 2.5 years away from a 20 year retirement.

That's not a bad deal.

Add to that my 10 years of service as a paychart modifier, and O-3E status, it was a really easy decision to make.


I thought that there wasn't any time that counted towards retirement while you are in school. Everyone at OIS told us that the time clock for retirement started when you commission 03 upon graduation.

You're AT time counts for pay purposes while you're in school, but doesn't count for payback. I'll double check this, but I'm 90% sure.