Minor Descrimination in Pharmacy

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Hello. all SDNers and I have a question. My point is that I feel most pharmacy schools limit accepting minors such as Asian, Africa-American, or Indian. Many minors' chances are decreased because of racism. In other case, medical schools do care where applicants are from. I understand that applicant's origin is important, but descriminating of minor is just unfair. Is it a hush hush fact or not? Am I too sensitive about it? I am not a racist but curious about the thing. Any comment is welcome.
 
I'm off to work and can't write too much, but are you sure you know what you're talking about? Just what initially came to mind is that at most pharmacy schools, asians are actually the majority. Definitely more asian students than caucasian students in pharmacy. Do I think they discriminate? Not from what I've observed at all. But I'll let others comment on it more.
 
The only "minority" in pharmacy programs is white, male Americans.
 
I don't think there's discrimination. It just depends on who applies where. I live in California and a lot of Asians are in pharmacy school here. That may also be due to the fact California is diverse. There are a lot of Asians here and a lot of other races. I guess it just depends what schools you are looking at. There may not be as many Asians applying to out of school states. I'm not really sure what the stats are, but I know that they're not racist.
 
wnnr1119, what brought you to this conclusion? If anything, I see more of a pull for minorities because pharmacy schools want diversity among their students.
 
The only "minority" in pharmacy programs is white, male Americans.

:laugh: I agree - at least from my own experience. Not that I'm complaining. I love being surrounded by a variety of people.

In looking at my school, there are many people from diverse ethnic backgrounds. Probably the biggest minority are Asian people.

I think the OP's statement that there's blanket and blatant racism in pharm school admissions is way too broad. Maybe he/she could narrow down the accusation to specific schools?
 
there needs to be a balance to reflect the actually diversity of patiences that future Pharmacist will serve.

I feel the exact opposite. If I'm the person that's getting an rx filled, I want that pharmacist to have been accepted SOLELY on their academic and personal character. If that person happens to be asian, great. If they happen to be white, great. I don't care. I just want the person standing behind the counter filling my rx to be intelligent, ethical, and very detail oriented. Race is not important to me as a customer. I just want it done right. I don't want some person filling my rx that had subpar grades to be doing it just because they happened to be X ethnicity and the school needed a few from the X ethnic group.
 
I wonder why more African American students are not accepted into Pharmacy schools. If Pharmacy schools are seeking diversity then they should accept more African American and American Indians and White Males. To me it seems like that Pharmacy schools are filled with nothing but Asians, there needs to be a balance to reflect the actually diversity of patiences that future Pharmacist will serve.

I live in an area with a large Latino population, yet there are very few Latin-Americans in my program. If I remember correctly from a presentation we were given during orientation, the low numbers reflect the low numbers of applicants from that group. I doubt there's active discrimination. If they don't apply, a school can't admit them.

I think that's one reason why schools do active outreach to minority communities, so the pool of qualified minority applicants can be enlarged.
 
I feel the exact opposite. If I'm the person that's getting an rx filled, I want that pharmacist to have been accepted SOLELY on their academic and personal character. If that person happens to be asian, great. If they happen to be white, great. I don't care. I just want the person standing behind the counter filling my rx to be intelligent, ethical, and very detail oriented. Race is not important to me as a customer. I just want it done right. I don't want some person filling my rx that had subpar grades to be doing it just because they happened to be X ethnicity and the school needed a few from the X ethnic group.

👍 I totally agree with Glowwyrm. Pharmacists have a lot of weight on their shoulders! They can kill you just as easily as they can save a person. (Did any one see that crazy pharmacist on Desperate Housewives??!!) I'm pretty sure the adcoms focus more on whether or not an applicant is competent enough to carry out these responsibilities than on the person's ethnic background.

In California, yeah, asians seem to make up a large proportion of the pharmacy students, but maybe it's because more asians apply to pharmacy school.
 
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You see more asians in pharmacy school b/c that's the majority group that applies. I hardly see white males. I think it's because white males prefer medical school/dental school over pharmacy.........based on what my friends at my school say. If anything, there is a small percentage of African Americans, Latinos, and Native Americans in pharmacy school because not that many apply. But part of the reason is discrimination.
 
So, I had a huge reply all ready to submit, but I thought these questions may be more appropriate. What are your stats? Are you concerned about YOUR chances? Or do you really want to know if there is still racism at the professional level?

Quite frankly, if you have a 2.95 GPA, no EC, and got really good LORs, not good chances you get in regardless of race.

If you have a 3.95 worked in Pharmacy for 3 months+, good LOR's and a decent PCAT, and you still don't get in, then I'd say you've either got psycho problems that showed up in your interview or yes, there's probably litigatable discrimination at that school you applied to. (e.g. Bakke vs CA Board of Regents)

(Understanding these are two extremes, and most people fall in the middle somewhere)

But broadbased discrimination across multiple schools where minorities are making up more and more of the ADCOMS (Females primarily, but also racial minorities), I find it unlikely.
 
I don't think that pharmacy schools are discriminatory towards minorities. When I was applying to U of Minnesota, I actually had to write an essay about how I am diverse and how I will contribute to diversity of the school. I am pretty sure that if you are a minority, you will not have hard time writing such essay.
Moreover, as someone said before why should we focus on what is your racial or ethnic background? I think the schools should focus more on accepting the most qualified students and maybe factor in if someone comes from disadvantaged economic background since they might not have had as many educational opportunities and monetary support as other students. However, race of the student should not be playing a big part in decision about acceptance to a pharmacy school.
 
Interesting topic. As a minority (hispanic) I feel compelled to reply. From my experience, the reason that more minorities like me don't usually advance our education is due to culture--plain and simple. In much of the hispanic community, people aren't really encouraged to go to school and make something of themselves--they're mostly encouraged to work hard and avoid getting pregnant. On the other hand, in the asian culture (just from what I have observed), education is highly valued and thus more people are inclined to pursue it. Not to say that hispanics and other minorities don't value education, but a lot of us just plain and simply don't get the encouragement from our families that others do. Needless to say, I don't think there is any discrimination in the application process--just small minority application pools.
 
Interesting topic. As a minority (hispanic) I feel compelled to reply. From my experience, the reason that more minorities like me don't usually advance our education is due to culture--plain and simple. In much of the hispanic community, people aren't really encouraged to go to school and make something of themselves--they're mostly encouraged to work hard and avoid getting pregnant. On the other hand, in the asian culture (just from what I have observed), education is highly valued and thus more people are inclined to pursue it. Not to say that hispanics and other minorities don't value education, but a lot of us just plain and simply don't get the encouragement from our families that others do. Needless to say, I don't think there is any discrimination in the application process--just small minority application pools.

I agree that it is culture. I come from a Portuguese background. My mother works in a factory, my stepdad is a fisherman. They have always had hard occupations. My parents would have been content if I had gotten a job at a factory as well. To them hard work will get you the things that you need in life. There was no push for an education what so ever. I did that that too...work in a factory. But years later as I passed through several jobs that were no better than the last I had had enough. Now I want to set an example for my niece and nephew.

Enough with my rant though. When I went to MCP Worcester the majority there was Asian. I think it is in all medical fields.
 
Interesting topic. As a minority (hispanic) I feel compelled to reply. From my experience, the reason that more minorities like me don't usually advance our education is due to culture--plain and simple. In much of the hispanic community, people aren't really encouraged to go to school and make something of themselves--they're mostly encouraged to work hard and avoid getting pregnant. On the other hand, in the asian culture (just from what I have observed), education is highly valued and thus more people are inclined to pursue it. Not to say that hispanics and other minorities don't value education, but a lot of us just plain and simply don't get the encouragement from our families that others do. Needless to say, I don't think there is any discrimination in the application process--just small minority application pools.

I agree that it is culture. I come from a Portuguese background. My mother works in a factory, my stepdad is a fisherman. They have always had hard occupations. My parents would have been content if I had gotten a job at a factory as well. To them hard work will get you the things that you need in life. There was no push for an education what so ever. I did that too...work in a factory. But years later as I passed through several jobs that were no better than the last I had had enough. Now I want to set an example for my niece and nephew.

Enough with my rant though. When I went to MCP Worcester the majority there was Asian. I think it is in all medical fields.
 
I think a lot of good points have been made, but having read illa's last comment, I had to respond. As a "triple minority" (1-female, 2-black, 3-African), I would be absolutely horrified if admission to pharmacy school was based solely (or mostly) on race. I have worked too damn hard in my life to be viewed as some token, and would rather be judged according to my abilities. I do think that a good point has been made in that the applicant pool is not large enough among URMs, but I think that a better way to increase diversity in pharmacy applicants is to have a variety of programs designed to interest youth, adolescents, and college undergrads in research, science, and healthcare fields in which they are underrepresented. Such programs do exist, but 1) there aren't enough, and 2) most of them seem to focus more on medicine as opposed to other fields such as pharmacy,genetics, health informatics, and the like. Programs such as these can help combat influences that may otherwise prevent such students from considering these fields. The HRSA-funded Health careers opportunity programs are an example; they work with high-achieving elementary, middle, and high school minority youth and low-income youth of all backgrouds by hosting "Saturday school" and summer programs where the youth take science courses, shadow health care professionals, and do limited research on health disparities.

I don't have a problem with adcoms considering "extenuating circumstaces" as ONE of the soft factors after considering grades, etc, but I am a strong advocate of SOCIOECONOMIC factors (poverty, attending poorly rated, academic disadvantaged schools, first generation college student, etc) being considered as opposed to race. That was no one who is truly needy (i.e. the white kid from a trailer park or from a rural area with limited opportunities) is excluded.
 
Just about every Pharmacy School I have looked at states that ~70% of their matriculated students are female. Sorry ladies, you are not minorities when it comes to the PharmD. degree.

I think admission should be based on life experiences, social skills, and test taking. I don't care where you're from, or where you grew up, I just want my pharmacist to dispense my medication and everyone elses, fast, and accurately.
 
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I think a lot might actually have to do with communication ... If English is your second language, and it is not near great, than many schools will frown upon that. A career as a pharmacist relies heavily on the ability to communicate clearly, and if an admissions comittee feels that you can't - you might have a more difficult time getting into their program.
As for discrimination based on race or ethnicity alone, I would like to think that it is bologna; but I would be naive to believe that admissions is void of any type of discrimination...
 
I think a lot of good points have been made, but having read illa's last comment, I had to respond. As a "triple minority" (1-female, 2-black, 3-African), I would be absolutely horrified if admission to pharmacy school was based solely (or mostly) on race. I have worked too damn hard in my life to be viewed as some token, and would rather be judged according to my abilities. I do think that a good point has been made in that the applicant pool is not large enough among URMs, but I think that a better way to increase diversity in pharmacy applicants is to have a variety of programs designed to interest youth, adolescents, and college undergrads in research, science, and healthcare fields in which they are underrepresented. Such programs do exist, but 1) there aren't enough, and 2) most of them seem to focus more on medicine as opposed to other fields such as pharmacy,genetics, health informatics, and the like. Programs such as these can help combat influences that may otherwise prevent such students from considering these fields. The HRSA-funded Health careers opportunity programs are an example; they work with high-achieving elementary, middle, and high school minority youth and low-income youth of all backgrouds by hosting "Saturday school" and summer programs where the youth take science courses, shadow health care professionals, and do limited research on health disparities.

I don't have a problem with adcoms considering "extenuating circumstaces" as ONE of the soft factors after considering grades, etc, but I am a strong advocate of SOCIOECONOMIC factors (poverty, attending poorly rated, academic disadvantaged schools, first generation college student, etc) being considered as opposed to race. That was no one who is truly needy (i.e. the white kid from a trailer park or from a rural area with limited opportunities) is excluded.

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I agree that it is culture. I come from a Portuguese background. My mother works in a factory, my stepdad is a fisherman. They have always had hard occupations. My parents would have been content if I had gotten a job at a factory as well. To them hard work will get you the things that you need in life. There was no push for an education what so ever. I did that too...work in a factory. But years later as I passed through several jobs that were no better than the last I had had enough. Now I want to set an example for my niece and nephew.

word. good for you for pursuing an education on your own 🙂
 
Thank you for all your comments on my thread. If you do not mind, post your states like ethnic or gender.(especially hispanic or asian)
Here is my state:
1) Asian
2) 25 yrs (getting old)
3) live in Florida, but not a resident yet. My immigrant documents are processing.
4) studying at CC because of money.<-----some of them said CC credits are critical. I do not know why?

Is there any person has similiar state as mine? :idea:
 
Thank you for all your comments on my thread. If you do not mind, post your states like ethnic or gender.(especially hispanic or asian)
Here is my state:
1) Asian
2) 25 yrs (getting old)
3) live in Florida, but not a resident yet. My immigrant documents are processing.
4) studying at CC because of money.<-----some of them said CC credits are critical. I do not know why?

Is there any person has similiar state as mine? :idea:

1. White Male
2. 22 years
3. Michigan resident for 10 + years
4. U of M grad (Biochem)

Yes, I may be the only white male applying to pharmacy school 🙂
 
1) White male (so greyfox you aren't the only one)
2) 33 y/o (so wnnr1119 if you are old, I may as well be dead)
3) gay (so I've got the minority thing covered)
4) living in Arizona for 9 years
5) pre reqs at CC (still got into pharmacy school)

I think your grades, your test scores, and how well you interview are what get you into pharmacy school. Also a good command of the English language is vital. This is not a dig on minorities; the ability to effectively communicate (in English or Spanish, the two languages you're most likely to encounter in practice in the U.S.) is paramount in the pharmacy profession. If your patient, or a doctor, or nurse can't understand you and your social skills aren't up to standard, you arent as likely to be a good practitioner.

As far as racism in the field?
I have worked in the pharmacy profession for sixteen + years. I have worked with more african-american, hispanic, Indian, asian pharmacists than I can count. (I currently work with 3 african american, 4 asian, and 6 Indian)
What people need to understand is that if you get rejected, it's because they don't want YOU, not your entire race of people. Yes, bigotry exists, but this is higher education. If I got a rejection letter I'd keep applying, not assume that the school just isn't interested because I'm gay.
 
I don't know if it's racism, but according to a recent article in an African-American Newsletter, I read that in Illinois only 13% of the pharmacists are non-White, which in my opinion is a very small amount. But in response to that article, I think that's why they are opening up that pharmacy school in Chicago State, to gain more minority pharmacists.
 
I don't know if it's racism, but according to a recent article in an African-American Newsletter, I read that in Illinois only 13% of the pharmacists are non-White, which in my opinion is a very small amount. But in response to that article, I think that's why they are opening up that pharmacy school in Chicago State, to gain more minority pharmacists.

Interesting login for someone who reads African-American newsletters and responds to questions about minorities. Just an observation.
 
I don't know if it's racism, but according to a recent article in an African-American Newsletter, I read that in Illinois only 13% of the pharmacists are non-White, which in my opinion is a very small amount. But in response to that article, I think that's why they are opening up that pharmacy school in Chicago State, to gain more minority pharmacists.

That is the assumed reason why CSU is going to open a pharmacy school. The entire opening of that school is surrounded in politics. That school is going to have a mountain to climb to gain acceptance because of its reputation in Illinois.
 
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Interesting login for someone who reads African-American newsletters and responds to questions about minorities. Just an observation.

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does anyone know if being indonesian would count as a "minority" even in pharmacy school?
 
does anyone know if being indonesian would count as a "minority" even in pharmacy school?

The US census bureau allows you to identify race. Anything other than White-non hispanic is considered a minority. If you wrote Indonesian on your census card, they would lump you into the Asian-American Category. (This coming from my race and racism class)

So in short, yes, whether you like it or not, you are a minority as far as the US census bureau is concerned.😴
 
Hello. all SDNers and I have a question. My point is that I feel most pharmacy schools limit accepting minors such as Asian, Africa-American, or Indian. Many minors' chances are decreased because of racism. In other case, medical schools do care where applicants are from. I understand that applicant's origin is important, but descriminating of minor is just unfair. Is it a hush hush fact or not? Am I too sensitive about it? I am not a racist but curious about the thing. Any comment is welcome.

I don't think this is an issue at all. Aren't schools prohibited from using race as a deciding factor? They can ask what race you are, but if they actually use that as a reason why you can't go, then that's grounds for a lawsuit, right? Civil rights and all that?

Of course, being qualified for pharmacy school is a whole nother issue altogether. If you can't speak english or don't have awesome grades and scores, you can't just pull out the race card iand sue f you're rejected from attending because someone had better stats than you.
 
I don't think this is an issue at all. Aren't schools prohibited from using race as a deciding factor? They can ask what race you are, but if they actually use that as a reason why you can't go, then that's grounds for a lawsuit, right? Civil rights and all that?

Of course, being qualified for pharmacy school is a whole nother issue altogether. If you can't speak english or don't have awesome grades and scores, you can't just pull out the race card iand sue f you're rejected from attending because someone had better stats than you.

In a perfect world, this would be correct. Since 1963 race among other factors can not be used for discrimination in employment, school, etc. with the special exceptions of Afirmative Action in some settings and private groups like religions and Boy Scouts, (BSA vs ??, a gay assistant scoutmaster who was legally barred from BSA due to sexual orientation), etc.

Reverse discrimination is also illegal (Bakke vs Univ CA Board of Regents date?? an interesting case because it involved a white pre-med denied twice to UC Davis with stats you couldnt argue with leaving race as only reason he wasn't accepted. Supreme Court agreed and he was admitted.)

So yes, race shouldnt be a factor, but, as mentioned above, it is on occasion, even when it's illegal.
The big problem is, if you're a middle of the road applicant and it's down to you and someone who's not a minority, how do you PROVE that race was the deciding factor and not your coursework, ECs, LORs (which you waived your right to see), etc.
 
1) White male (so greyfox you aren't the only one)
2) 33 y/o (so wnnr1119 if you are old, I may as well be dead)
3) gay (so I've got the minority thing covered)
4) living in Arizona for 9 years
5) pre reqs at CC (still got into pharmacy school)

I think your grades, your test scores, and how well you interview are what get you into pharmacy school. Also a good command of the English language is vital. This is not a dig on minorities; the ability to effectively communicate (in English or Spanish, the two languages you're most likely to encounter in practice in the U.S.) is paramount in the pharmacy profession. If your patient, or a doctor, or nurse can't understand you and your social skills aren't up to standard, you arent as likely to be a good practitioner.

As far as racism in the field?
I have worked in the pharmacy profession for sixteen + years. I have worked with more african-american, hispanic, Indian, asian pharmacists than I can count. (I currently work with 3 african american, 4 asian, and 6 Indian)
What people need to understand is that if you get rejected, it's because they don't want YOU, not your entire race of people. Yes, bigotry exists, but this is higher education. If I got a rejection letter I'd keep applying, not assume that the school just isn't interested because I'm gay.

You will not say you are a gay if you have the interview at pharms. Anyway, thank you for sharing an opinion.👍 👍 👍
 
I don't think this is an issue at all. Aren't schools prohibited from using race as a deciding factor? They can ask what race you are, but if they actually use that as a reason why you can't go, then that's grounds for a lawsuit, right? Civil rights and all that?

Of course, being qualified for pharmacy school is a whole nother issue altogether. If you can't speak english or don't have awesome grades and scores, you can't just pull out the race card iand sue f you're rejected from attending because someone had better stats than you.

You are right. 👍 👍 It is not a big issue. But, I am curious that I hardly see an Africa-American pharmacist in my area. Are they not qulified in health field?😕
 
You are right. 👍 👍 It is not a big issue. But, I am curious that I hardly see an Africa-American pharmacist in my area. Are they not qulified in health field?😕

Well in my area (I live in Prince Georges County, Maryland) there are a lot of black pharmacists, particularly Africans but then again they are also older let's say most are about 30 years old and up. I also, work at a pharmacy and have been there for awhile and about 3 months ago we had a plethora of swing pharmacists come into our store because our main pharmacists had left, and all I saw were black pharmacists.
 
You will not say you are a gay if you have the interview at pharms.
Quite the contrary. He understands a particular subculture or 'suffering' associated with that group. If you write your essays about what it has taught you or if you talk about it in your interview about how it has brought a unique perspective into your pursuit of a PharmD degree, it will help, not hurt. This is unless you are applying to Loma Linda 😀
 
Don't have that negative thinking

I have a friend who has been in United States for 2 years ( he did not know English before he came to US)

He just got into a pharmacy school this year
He is an asian

So I just want to tell you guys never give up.🙂
 
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Don't have that negative thinking

I have a friend who has been in United States for 2 years ( he did not know English before he came to US)

He just got into a pharmacy school this year
He is an asian

So I just want to tell you guys never give up.🙂

Knew a Nigerian who had a Marine Biology degree from Africa (not sure where) He struggled in US schools, but got into UCSF.
 
yes I see that , but may be I have been rejected from 4 pharmacy schools so far . I am from middle east originally , and it seems that they treat poeple from that part differently . otherwise why i would be rejected and already have GPA of 3.8 pcat of 70 two previous degrees in science and pharmacy work experience in usa for more than 3 years . certified pahrmacy tech and I.V. tech . have alot of volunteer work . I donto knwo what I can do more to get accepted in on e of those pharmacy schools . only I can say it may be a descrimination of some kind . OR ANY ONE CAN convince me otherwise ?
 
yes I see that , but may be I have been rejected from 4 pharmacy schools so far . I am from middle east originally , and it seems that they treat poeple from that part differently . otherwise why i would be rejected and already have GPA of 3.8 pcat of 70 two previous degrees in science and pharmacy work experience in usa for more than 3 years . certified pahrmacy tech and I.V. tech . have alot of volunteer work . I donto knwo what I can do more to get accepted in on e of those pharmacy schools . only I can say it may be a descrimination of some kind . OR ANY ONE CAN convince me otherwise ?

Instead of looking at why you should be in, can you think of any reason why you shouldn't. I know it sounds negative, but if you want to dispel the possiblity of discrimination (or prove that it occured in a courtroom) these things would need to be addressed. Look at things like: your command of the English language, your dress/appearance at the interview (I'm assuming that you interviewed at at least one of the schools) Did your LORs follow guidelines set by the school. Some require LORs from pharmacists, others do not allow LORs from employers. If you weren't meticulous in following instructions, this could be a problem. If you can't think of any reason why you could have been rejected, maybe you have a point. I'm not saying there wasn't discrimination, but you can guarantee anyone who is not discriminating doesn't want to be accused of it. Anyone who is probably wants to hear about it even less. While whistleblower laws have improved, you still have to be very careful. No applicant wants to be known as the one who lost the case involving discrimination.
 
yes I see that , but may be I have been rejected from 4 pharmacy schools so far . I am from middle east originally , and it seems that they treat poeple from that part differently . otherwise why i would be rejected and already have GPA of 3.8 pcat of 70 two previous degrees in science and pharmacy work experience in usa for more than 3 years . certified pahrmacy tech and I.V. tech . have alot of volunteer work . I donto knwo what I can do more to get accepted in on e of those pharmacy schools . only I can say it may be a descrimination of some kind . OR ANY ONE CAN convince me otherwise ?

Have you tried retaking the PCAT? A score of 70 is not very competitive. Since you have 2 science degrees, you most likely have decent scores in the science catagories. If your problem is with the verbal section, work on your language/verbal skills and retake it.
 
Hello. all SDNers and I have a question. My point is that I feel most pharmacy schools limit accepting minors such as Asian, Africa-American, or Indian. Many minors' chances are decreased because of racism. In other case, medical schools do care where applicants are from. I understand that applicant's origin is important, but descriminating of minor is just unfair. Is it a hush hush fact or not? Am I too sensitive about it? I am not a racist but curious about the thing. Any comment is welcome.

yeah i dont know what youre talking about but the overwhelming majority in Pharmacy Schools is are Asians.....
 
Hmm...I don't see any discrimination in pharmacy admission
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I guess there are so many Asians get accepted to pharm skool becoz the majority of the applicants are Asians afaik. Well, u know that most Asian parents have high expectation from their children *sighs*
Most of them expect, even force, their children to become a doctor, a pharmacist, a dentist, etc ^^;;;;
 
yes I see that , but may be I have been rejected from 4 pharmacy schools so far . I am from middle east originally , and it seems that they treat poeple from that part differently . otherwise why i would be rejected and already have GPA of 3.8 pcat of 70 two previous degrees in science and pharmacy work experience in usa for more than 3 years . certified pahrmacy tech and I.V. tech . have alot of volunteer work . I donto knwo what I can do more to get accepted in on e of those pharmacy schools . only I can say it may be a descrimination of some kind . OR ANY ONE CAN convince me otherwise ?

If you are not a permanent resident or a citizen, some colleges do not like to admit those kinds of students. There is also a financial concern because if not a citizen or permanent resident, you will not qualify for federal financial aid.
 
This may be true in some areas of the country but certainly not everywhere.

Probably in schools that have a high percentage of Asians in the immediate area. UCSF, UCSD, USC, Western all have significant Asian populations to draw from, so would some NY schools, Seattle (UW/WSU), Portland (OSU, Pacific). I would be surprised to see a high asian population at South Dakota, Colorado, or Michigan. (Unless my assumptions on area demographics is completely off)
 
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