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thank you for proving my point with your blatant generalizations

They say ignorance is bliss.

 

[deleted647155]

Seriously? So if I'm black and wealthy, I'm good to go? No struggles? Please stop. You can be financially well off as a black person and still undergo racially stimulated struggles that a white person, rich OR poor, will never have to deal with. A wealthy black person will still get pulled over for driving black, still get followed in an upscale store, and still have patients refuse to see them SOLELY on their skin tone. The fact that you want to equate financial stability alone with "privilege" is a bit much. A black individual can have these so called "privileges" (financial security, upper class, whatever) and still be subject to racial injustices that occur today. Not the same for a white person. THATS the privilege that is being referred to.

If you want to deny that it exists, it's because you don't have to deal with it.

Yes. Stated much more eloquently than I did.

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

saying all whites are privileged and all blacks are oppressed is an inaccurate generalization, but you always hear it quoted as a fact

the truth is that there are too many mitigating circumstances to assume a person's advantages and disadvantages based on the color of their skin

yet, it is used to promote institutionally racist policies such as affirmative action and racial job quotas. it is also used to excuse any black from being held accountable for their actions.

I love how you focus on the "policies" that work to help Minorities and conveniently ignore the many social constructs that work against minorities. Don't pick and choose to help satisfy your mission. And that last sentence actually makes ZERO sense, so I'm not even going to address it. But I'd encourage you to read up on history a bit more.

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

Can this thread be locked? This is like the 10th race related thread and it ALWAYS ends the same:

1.) white privilege isn't real!
2.) im poor and white, I never got help! Where's my privilege?!
3.) affirmative action is the devil
4.) black people are racist too
5.) some s*it about how money makes everything okay

Enoughhhhh. The horse is dead, stop beating it.

 

[Chansey]

I cannot believe that some people in this thread are actually going to become doctors.

 

[BobbyB]

Seriously? So if I'm black and wealthy, I'm good to go? No struggles? Please stop. You can be financially well off as a black person and still undergo racially stimulated struggles that a white person, rich OR poor, will never have to deal with. A wealthy black person will still get pulled over for driving black, still get followed in an upscale store, and still have patients refuse to see them based SOLELY on their skin tone. The fact that you want to equate financial stability alone with "privilege" is a bit much. A black individual can have these so called "privileges" (financial security, upper class, whatever) and still be subject to racial injustices that occur today. Not the same for a white person. THATS the privilege that is being referred to.

If you want to deny that it exists, it's because you don't have to deal with it, not because it's false.

you stated having white skin is always an advantage

studies have shown that minority communities prefer doctors with the same skin color as the community

when serving black communities, being white is a disadvantage and being black is an advantage

your assumption that being white is always an advantage is false

 

[touchpause13]

TP, I was mostly referring to the following:

I've been called a redneck and a hick and a racist because of the way I speak, or spoke, until I learned to talk like a proper Northerner. And that's aside from my other issues, which I don't care to share with the public at large but which you know because I've told you personally. Those have caused me a great bit of trouble as well. There's much more to discrimination than race in this wonderful world of ours unfortunately.

Ahhh

I see what you are saying. Yeah, I would say that for the most part white people aren't going to be discriminated against because of our race, but of course we can be discriminated against for other attributes.

 

[alpinism]

The fact is that the solution to racism and discrimination and prejudice is to look at each person as a human being and not as a label--as white, black, asian whatever.

Unfortunately however, that is not the world that we live in, that is not what America is today. What every minority wants is to be treated fairly, equally, and not have to worry that he or she will be treated differently because of his or her skin color. and you know what, that's what lgbtq people want and feminists want. what is hard for me to grasp is why it is so difficult for so many americans do just treat people equally and simply see people as people. but alas we are imperfect beings in an imperfect world.

What's the great privilege of being white?--you will never have to attribute anything, any action, comment, treatment, to the color of your skin in America. you'll never be followed in a store. you'll never be the subject of racial jokes or slurs. noone will make assumptions about you based on your appearance. that's why people talk about white privilege--because it's real.

It's important to recognize that many minorities are in unsavory situations today because of systemic factors--I mean, the African American community, who can really blame them--I mean if your race went through many years of slavery followed by decades of racial discrimination that still persist today, what friggin result would you expect?

and then people judge the black community for a situation that isn't exactly a result of their own actions.
the problem with this mentality is that when you have low expectations of someone, they will internalize it, and those low expectations will become a reality.

also, i absolutely detest people that use the success of Asian americans as an argument against blacks--we aren't your puppets to justify something whites created. also, not all Asian americans are high achieving--Camobidans, laotians, vietnamese americans struggle academically and economically compared to chinese, korean, and japanese americans.

this forum is not normally a place to discuss race matters and social politics but i think it's important for medical students, doctors, and health professionals to discuss these things. id like to believe that medical students are capable of thinking about such issues in a deeper, intellectual manner rather than the superficial manner that most of america perceives them to be (e.g. "all whites are racists"). the issues are extremely complex but that doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss them. i think an issue i see in america is that there is not enough of this dialogue--we need to have more of this dialogue in k12 education, in college, between whites and minorities, among whites, among minorities.

don't be pc but don't make superficial arguments.

Heh

re the bolded:

What you should have said was you'll never have to experience those things as a "white" person in a predominately caucasian middle class US neighborhood.

However, go on down to south central LA where I used to work and there's a significant chance of experiencing all those things as a "white" person in a majority "hispanic" neighborhood. Trust me, you'll feel uncomfortable, have people follow you, hear racial slurs, make assumptions, etc...

You can also experience those things as a "white" person by traveling to Mexico, Nigeria, or Afghanistan.

None of those feelings are specific to the USA or to certain races.

No one race owns repression or discrimination.

The suggestion that "white" people don't ever experience discrimination only hurts your argument and suggests a lack of experience and maturity.

And this is from someone who thinks that african americans and hispanics are underrepresented in medicine (relative to the general population) and overall face more challenges/barriers to becoming physicians compared to most med students.

 

[RJGOP]

Heh

re the bolded:

What you should have said was you'll never have to experience those things as a "white" person in a predominately caucasian middle class US neighborhood.

However, go on down to south central LA where I used to work and there's a significant chance of experiencing all those things as a "white" person in a majority "hispanic" neighborhood. Trust me, you'll feel uncomfortable, have people follow you, hear racial slurs, make assumptions, etc...

You can also experience those things as a "white" person by traveling to Mexico, Nigeria, or Afghanistan.

None of those feelings are specific to the USA or to certain races.

No one race owns repression or discrimination.

The suggestion that "white" people don't ever experience discrimination only hurts your argument and suggests a lack of experience and maturity.

And this is from someone who thinks that african americans and hispanics are underrepresented in medicine (relative to the general population) and overall face more challenges/barriers to becoming physicians compared to most med students.

If they are underrepresented, it's no ones fault but theirs. And how are they facing more challenges in becoming a physician-in some cases I think it's made easier for them.

The rest of your argument I liked.

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

you stated having white skin is always an advantage

studies have shown that minority communities prefer doctors with the same skin color as the community

when serving black communities, being white is a disadvantage and being black is an advantage

your assumption that being white is always an advantage is false

Please show me where I stated that being white is ALWAYS an advantage. I never once said because I know that that is also incorrect. I said that white privilege does exist.

Also, your argument is kind of stupid. Studies also show that white people are not (actively) going to serve minority communities anyway. That's one of the reasons for affirmative action - to get more minorities in medicine who will go back and serve these minority and underserved communities, because let's be real - other races aren't doing it.

You honestly just sound bitter because URMs have an advantage in one aspect of life where you don't. Take it up with Jesus, the argument is tireddddd.

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

Heh

re the bolded:

What you should have said was you'll never have to experience those things as a "white" person in a predominately caucasian middle class US neighborhood.

However, go on down to south central LA where I used to work and there's a significant chance of experiencing all those things as a "white" person in a majority "hispanic" neighborhood. Trust me, you'll feel uncomfortable, have people follow you, hear racial slurs, make assumptions, etc...

You can also experience those things as a "white" person by traveling to Mexico, Nigeria, or Afghanistan.

None of those feelings are specific to the USA or to certain races.

No one race owns repression or discrimination.

The suggestion that "white" people don't ever experience discrimination only hurts your argument and suggests a lack of experience and maturity.

And this is from someone who thinks that african americans and hispanics are underrepresented in medicine (relative to the general population) and overall face more challenges/barriers to becoming physicians compared to most med students.

Lol white person in one "hispanic" neighborhood. Awww. Try being a black person in USA. That type of racism isn't limited to a type of neighborhood. It's everywhere -can't escape it.

 

[BobbyB]

Lol white person in one "hispanic" neighborhood. Awww. Try being a black person in USA. That type of racism isn't limited to a type of neighborhood. It's everywhere -can't escape it.

try growing up in the third world

this is the myopic "woe is me" BS that everyone hates

in terms of living situations, being black in the US is a lot better than most third world households.

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

try growing up in the third world

this is the myopic "woe is me" BS that everyone hates

in terms of living situations, being black in the US is a lot better than most third world households.

Yes, because we are talking about 3rd world countries now? What?

The only woe is me nonsense here is being spewed from you.

Woeeee is meee, black people get into medical school so much easier than me, life must be great for them! Look at all their advantages! Womppp. Settle down in your bubble over there, sir. Who hurt you?

Anyway, this is not going to get solved anytime soon. Prob best if you stop addressing me & I will do the same.

 

[Psai]

It's always nice when preallo spills over

 

[Mad Jack]

Ahhh

I see what you are saying. Yeah, I would say that for the most part white people aren't going to be discriminated against because of our race, but of course we can be discriminated against for other attributes.

I guess my point was to say that the idea that white people are all either "good white people" stereotypes or racists, both of which have no way of being discriminated against, and all of which collectively and actively work to make a racist system- well, it's kind of a racist idea to have, but a sentiment I've increasingly noticed in the past month. I don't pretend to have all the solutions- telling people to see others as individuals to be judged equally on their character is a thing easier said than done- but I know that a person being angry at one race for being the cause of their plight is not a way to end racism, but rather one to perpetuate it.

And I'm certainly not saying whites know exactly the sort of discrimination minorities face, just that whites are not viewed as monolithically equal as they are often painted. Women, immigrants, people with differing sexuality or gender presentations, people that are disabled, etc- they're all subject to their own sorts of discrimination. Race doesn't have a monopoly on discrimination, but it is often discussed as such.

Back to the original thread, I'm curious how much of the increase in application numbers is due to perceived racism by PDs versus cultural factors, and how deep minority applicants must dip into their rank list before they get a match versus whites. It is possible they dip farther into their ROLs, but it is also possible they do not and thus it is a result of psychological or sociological factors. It is also possible that minority applicants clatter their applications in cities, which tend to be more racially tolerant but also far more competitive.

 

[deleted647155]

try growing up in the third world

this is the myopic "woe is me" BS that everyone hates

in terms of living situations, being black in the US is a lot better than most third world households.

dude/dudette, you're the myopic one here, trying to extrapolate the experiences of minorities in america to their experiences in third world countries. like i said, we are focusing on the issues that surround being a minority in america.

i think you need to look at this approach with some empathy. im assuming that you're white--there's truth to the statement that many white people will not experience what some minorities experience but it doesn't mean you can't empathize.

all you're trying to do is shove these issues under the bed. your contributions to this forum have been anything but contributive. like i said, don't be pc but also don't hash out superficial arguments like yours.

 

[Dave89]

All I can say is that I have been chastised by the mods for having referred to people on the forum as "professional victims." Apparently, that is considered "harassment."

So, I won't do that.

But... you know...

😉

 

[PL198]

I recommend you take a few courses in history, sociology, and anthropology. The constructs we accept are a lot more constructed than we would hope to believe.

here's an article to start off:: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/07/opinion/coates-the-good-racist-people.html?_r=0

and here's a video (yes from 2014) that shows how far america still has to go--until we can treat each other based on the content of one's character and not on the color of one's skin.

(this kid is bat **** crazy, needs a psychiatric intervention.)

yeah because using extremes to prove a point is so good. I can pull up a black panther video too, yet that would be *****ic for arguing. the fact that you can't understand that is scary. yes 1 individual having a radical set of view points means america has a long way to go.... lol do you have any idea how many random people there are in america with some extremist belief about anything?

 

[PL198]

why is it that when institutions use race to benefit blacks everyone is fine with the arbitrary classifications?

it is only when there is a result that isn't favorable toward blacks that every liberal busts out the problems with race classification

racial classifications are fine when discussing affirmative action, black oppression, and white privilege. bring up race in any other context and everyone loses their mind.

BOOM GAME OVER

 

[PL198]

The fact is that the solution to racism and discrimination and prejudice is to look at each person as a human being and not as a label--as white, black, asian whatever.

Unfortunately however, that is not the world that we live in, that is not what America is today. What every minority wants is to be treated fairly, equally, and not have to worry that he or she will be treated differently because of his or her skin color. and you know what, that's what lgbtq people want and feminists want. what is hard for me to grasp is why it is so difficult for so many americans do just treat people equally and simply see people as people. but alas we are imperfect beings in an imperfect world.

What's the great privilege of being white?--you will never have to attribute anything, any action, comment, treatment, to the color of your skin in America. you'll never be followed in a store. you'll never be the subject of racial jokes or slurs. noone will make assumptions about you based on your appearance. that's why people talk about white privilege--because it's real.

It's important to recognize that many minorities are in unsavory situations today because of systemic factors--I mean, the African American community, who can really blame them--I mean if your race went through many years of slavery followed by decades of racial discrimination that still persist today, what friggin result would you expect?

and then people judge the black community for a situation that isn't exactly a result of their own actions.
the problem with this mentality is that when you have low expectations of someone, they will internalize it, and those low expectations will become a reality.

also, i absolutely detest people that use the success of Asian americans as an argument against blacks--we aren't your puppets to justify something whites created. also, not all Asian americans are high achieving--Camobidans, laotians, vietnamese americans struggle academically and economically compared to chinese, korean, and japanese americans.

this forum is not normally a place to discuss race matters and social politics but i think it's important for medical students, doctors, and health professionals to discuss these things. id like to believe that medical students are capable of thinking about such issues in a deeper, intellectual manner rather than the superficial manner that most of america perceives them to be (e.g. "all whites are racists"). the issues are extremely complex but that doesn't mean we shouldn't discuss them. i think an issue i see in america is that there is not enough of this dialogue--we need to have more of this dialogue in k12 education, in college, between whites and minorities, among whites, among minorities.

don't be pc but don't make superficial arguments.

god you're so naive. everyone is going to be treated differently because of their skin color. that's life. you get treated differently because of your height, your weight, etc. everything affects others perception of you. I'm pretty sure if it's 2 AM and a 6'5'' dude is walking towards you, you're going to feel different than if the guy was 5'2''. OMG DISCRIMINATION

like associates with like. everyone is always more comfortable associating with people similar to them. a white male will always feel more comfortable with a white male. an asian woman will always feel more comfortable with an asian woman. this isn't rocket science. it's how all organisms work. this is why the people that think they're a grizzy bear go live in the wilderness with bears. because it's what they are similar to in their mind.

lol you think there's not enough dialogue about racism? are you seriously, there's not 1 issue more discussed on any level of policy. that's like saying you dont think the government spends enough money.

 

[PL198]

Heh

re the bolded:

What you should have said was you'll never have to experience those things as a "white" person in a predominately caucasian middle class US neighborhood.

However, go on down to south central LA where I used to work and there's a significant chance of experiencing all those things as a "white" person in a majority "hispanic" neighborhood. Trust me, you'll feel uncomfortable, have people follow you, hear racial slurs, make assumptions, etc...

You can also experience those things as a "white" person by traveling to Mexico, Nigeria, or Afghanistan.

None of those feelings are specific to the USA or to certain races.

No one race owns repression or discrimination.

The suggestion that "white" people don't ever experience discrimination only hurts your argument and suggests a lack of experience and maturity.

And this is from someone who thinks that african americans and hispanics are underrepresented in medicine (relative to the general population) and overall face more challenges/barriers to becoming physicians compared to most med students.

dude look at the video she tried to use to support her argument. 1 random youtube nutjob = omg america has problems zomg you guys are awful

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

god you're so naive. everyone is going to be treated differently because of their skin color. that's life. you get treated differently because of your height, your weight, etc. everything affects others perception of you. I'm pretty sure if it's 2 AM and a 6'5'' dude is walking towards you, you're going to feel different than if the guy was 5'2''. OMG DISCRIMINATION

like associates with like. everyone is always more comfortable associating with people similar to them. a white male will always feel more comfortable with a white male. an asian woman will always feel more comfortable with an asian woman. this isn't rocket science. it's how all organisms work. this is why the people that think they're a grizzy bear go live in the wilderness with bears. because it's what they are similar to in their mind.

lol you think there's not enough dialogue about racism? are you seriously, there's not 1 issue more discussed on any level of policy. that's like saying you dont think the government spends enough money.

This is cute. Can someone close this thread? Pleaseeeeeeee? Like at this point, it's not even on topic anymore and there is a lot of nonsense coming out of people's asses.

 

[Dave89]

I just love it when people who signed up for SDN a few months ago feel that they're in a position to dictate when it's appropriate to close threads.

Helpful tip: there's an option to "Unwatch Thread." It's opposite the thread's page number, at the top.

 

[PL198]

I just love it when people who signed up for SDN a few months ago feel that they're in a position to dictate when it's appropriate to close threads.

Helpful tip: there's an option to "Unwatch Thread." It's opposite the thread's page number, at the top.

racist

 

[Dave89]

racist

[gasp!]

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

I just love it when people who signed up for SDN a few months ago feel that they're in a position to dictate when it's appropriate to close threads.

Helpful tip: there's an option to "Unwatch Thread." It's opposite the thread's page number, at the top.

Lol so me being part of SDN for a few months mean what? Are you an admin or....because I'm sure just because you've been on here for years doesn't give you anymore power either. Dude, shut up. Miss me with the arrogance. It's an Internet forum, don't take yourself so seriously. LOL

 

[Dave89]

LOL

 

[PL198]

Lol so me being part of SDN for a few months mean what? Are you an admin or....because I'm sure just because you've been on here for years doesn't give you anymore power either. Dude, shut up. Miss me with the arrogance. It's an Internet forum, don't take yourself so seriously. LOL

you are oppressive to mountains

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

you are oppressive to mountains

Go take a nap and try again later. Later brozay!

 

[compstomper]

The nuance has long escaped this thread. Let's all make ridiculously general statements and interpret things as concretely as possible, because absolutes!

 

[colbgw02]

 

[deleted647155]

god you're so naive. everyone is going to be treated differently because of their skin color. that's life. you get treated differently because of your height, your weight, etc. everything affects others perception of you. I'm pretty sure if it's 2 AM and a 6'5'' dude is walking towards you, you're going to feel different than if the guy was 5'2''. OMG DISCRIMINATION

like associates with like. everyone is always more comfortable associating with people similar to them. a white male will always feel more comfortable with a white male. an asian woman will always feel more comfortable with an asian woman. this isn't rocket science. it's how all organisms work. this is why the people that think they're a grizzy bear go live in the wilderness with bears. because it's what they are similar to in their mind.

lol you think there's not enough dialogue about racism? are you seriously, there's not 1 issue more discussed on any level of policy. that's like saying you dont think the government spends enough money.

unbelievable. god i hope you're a premed and not a med student because i would kick you out.

you just made light of years and years of discrimination and racism experienced by minorities in america.

yes people judge each other, but it doesn't mean we should or at least we should make serious attempts not to, especially about race.

dude, you're banner/avatar is just wtf is wrong with you. it's obvious noone can have a discussion with you since you look at things so superficially. you're making a fool out of yourself, contributing essentially nothing intellectual at all. did you go to college?

 

[Dave89]

unbelievable. god i hope you're a premed and not a med student because i would kick you out.

you just made light of years and years of discrimination and racism experienced by minorities in america.

yes people judge each other, but it doesn't mean we should or at least we should make serious attempts not to, especially about race.

dude, you're banner/avatar is just wtf is wrong with you. it's obvious noone can have a discussion with you since you look at things so superficially. you're making a fool out of yourself, contributing essentially nothing intellectual at all. did you go to college?

... said the member who doesn't know the difference between "your" and "you're."

Golden!

 

[PL198]

America has won the last two world wars if I am not mistaken. I'm simply acknowledging such. 'MURRICA

 

[Ashley_Green1988]

America has won the last two world wars if I am not mistaken. I'm simply acknowledging such. 'MURRICA

*Ahem* you didn't do it alone. In fact Russia pretty much won the war in Europe in 1945, although you'd never know it if you went to school in the states. You can claim the victory in the Pacific though.

 

[PL198]

I completely agree

 

[Winged Scapula]

Moving to Topics in Healthcare since users cannot refrain from insulting each other or getting feelings hurt.

 

[WhippleWhileWeWork]

N/m, I'm way late to this game. What a **** show. Good work

 

[WhippleWhileWeWork]

you just made light of years and years of discrimination and racism experienced by minorities in america.

Hey, no one gives a ****. This isn't a political debate or sociology class. Your "ancestors" have a sad story? Welcome to reality, where everyone has a sad story.

 

[jakeislove]

Hey, no one gives a ****. This isn't a political debate or sociology class. Your "ancestors" have a sad story? Welcome to reality, where everyone has a sad story.

"Everyone thinks their story is sad" might be more accurate.

 

[Ashley_Green1988]

Hey, no one gives a ****. This isn't a political debate or sociology class. Your "ancestors" have a sad story? Welcome to reality, where everyone has a sad story.

I think the point which you rather obtusely have chosen to ignore is that racism is a CURRENT problem, not one merely confined to people's ancestors. Yes, most everyone has a sad story and this is something that transcends race, gender and even socioeconomic lines; but imagine if, on top of this, you also had individuals and institutions treating you negatively because of your race.

 

[WhippleWhileWeWork]

I think the point which you rather obtusely have chosen to ignore is that racism is a CURRENT problem, not one merely confined to people's ancestors. Yes, most everyone has a sad story and this is something that transcends race, gender and even socioeconomic lines; but imagine if, on top of this, you also had individuals and institutions treating you negatively because of your race.

One of many problems, and one in particular that seemingly one race in the US gets to exploit at the exclusion of all other problems unless one of those other problems benifits them. No society is perfect, fair, or without baggage. The race card gives power to the previously powerless, good for them.

 

[WhippleWhileWeWork]

"Everyone thinks their story is sad" might be more accurate.

Neither statement is objective, and neither more compelling than the other. So sure, it might be more accurate.

 

[jakeislove]

Neither statement is objective, and neither more compelling than the other. So sure, it might be more accurate.

The "My people have suffered!" card will be played until it stops winning hands.

^ Being said, there is racism in the world. It's unlikely set-asides (or other proactive measures) will effect change in a system that works exactly as designed.

I do find some of the URM threads amusing, though. People are so animated, at times, one would think the ORM/URM numbers were reversed and only 4-5 white kids ever get seats in medical school. Just seems like a silly thing for someone to go on about.

 

[WhippleWhileWeWork]

The "My people have suffered!" card will be played until it stops winning hands.

Agreed, my people suffered too, I've yet to find a way to exploit it though. Maybe if I read enough of these useless threads I'll pick up some pointers.

^ Being said, there is racism in the world. It's unlikely set-asides (or other proactive measures) will effect change in a system that works exactly as designed.

Racism? Sure. Lots of other "isms"? Yeah. Some "isms" are leading people to lop people's heads off in the desert, crucify people, and slaughter children. Those families will one day have "sad stories" too.

I do find some of the URM threads amusing, though. People are so animated, at times, one would think the ORM/URM numbers were reversed and only 4-5 white kids ever get seats in medical school. Just seems like a silly thing for someone to go on about.

Agreed.

 

[jakeislove]

Agreed, my people suffered too, I've yet to find a way to exploit it though. Maybe if I read enough of these useless threads I'll pick up some pointers.

Racism? Sure. Lots of other "isms"? Yeah. Some "isms" are leading people to lop people's heads off in the desert, crucify people, and slaughter children. Those families will one day have "sad stories" too.

Agreed.

There's an prize for the Saddest Story, you know. 🙂

 

[PL198]

I think the point which you rather obtusely have chosen to ignore is that racism is a CURRENT problem, not one merely confined to people's ancestors. Yes, most everyone has a sad story and this is something that transcends race, gender and even socioeconomic lines; but imagine if, on top of this, you also had individuals and institutions treating you negatively because of your race.

this literally happens to everyone. that's what you don't get. there will be white kids, where black superiors treat them worse because they're white kids. there will be black kids, with white superiors who treat them worse because they're black kids. there will be indian kids who get treated worse by people of pakistan descent. likewise, there will be indians who treat students of pakistan descent worse. stop complaining. I promise you, whatever race you are, all else being equal, you don't look at two people where the only difference between them is race and respond equally to them. doing so wouldn't be the normal biological response. or do you think animals just associate with their own species for the fun of it?

 

[PL198]

There's an prize for the Saddest Story, you know. 🙂

yeah there is, it's called you're the biggest b*tch

 

[PL198]

I'm just waiting, absolutely waiting for a "black people can't be racist" retort

 

[reapplicanthelpme2014]

LOL