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Huge difference in holding your piss for 12 hours and having a neurogenic bladder. If you pee before you go to work (you know, before you feel like you have to just like mommy and daddy taught), and you’re not drinking a bunch of water all day, then barring some abnormal circumstance, I don’t see what the problem is. I mean is it really that rare to go 12 hours without peeing? I do that every day.
This was quite an odd though slightly pompous display of grandiloquence but alas.
 
I don’t know what FAP stands for, but man I’ve never had to go to the bathroom every 12 hours in my life. I mean if I drink a ton of water sure, just seems like a lot to me. Then again some people say they have to crap several times a day, and I only crap every few days so I guess we’re all different. Seems like a lot of “wasted” time.
 
I don’t know what FAP stands for, but man I’ve never had to go to the bathroom every 12 hours in my life. I mean if I drink a ton of water sure, just seems like a lot to me. Then again some people say they have to crap several times a day, and I only crap every few days so I guess we’re all different. Seems like a lot of “wasted” time.
It means to go on a date with Palmela Handerson.
 
I don’t know what FAP stands for, but man I’ve never had to go to the bathroom every 12 hours in my life. I mean if I drink a ton of water sure, just seems like a lot to me. Then again some people say they have to crap several times a day, and I only crap every few days so I guess we’re all different. Seems like a lot of “wasted” time.

I don't really know you, but I do have two kids, and I can guarantee you that you're underestimating how often you pee. Or at least how often you peed as a kid. If my kids went 12 hours without having to pee, I'd be very concerned for their hydration status.
 
I don't really know you, but I do have two kids, and I can guarantee you that you're underestimating how often you pee. Or at least how often you peed as a kid. If my kids went 12 hours without having to pee, I'd be very concerned for their hydration status.
When I was a kid I peed more, but now that I’m older I just don’t. And I don’t always go 12 hours without peeing, but it’s not uncommon at all. I mean if I’m working out, drinking a lot of fluid etc I will, but if I know I’m gonna be busy, I can just not guzzle water and go once before work and I’m good.
 
Procto changed its name to colorectal surgery a while back. The "Cosmo Kramer, Proctologist" episode of Seinfeld (Season 6, Episode 20 "The Fusilli Jerry") wherin the DMV gives Kramer a personalized plate the reads ASSMAN, which he immediately uses to park in doctor's spots, particularly at the (long presumed to be Roosevelt Field) mall. Nassau county cops let him slide when he tells them he's a proctologist. After that, the voard got together and decided to make some changes. More medical-sounding name is more medical.

This would be hilarious if true.

Unfortunately think the name change came well before Seinfeld (1961).
 
When I was a kid I peed more, but now that I’m older I just don’t. And I don’t always go 12 hours without peeing, but it’s not uncommon at all. I mean if I’m working out, drinking a lot of fluid etc I will, but if I know I’m gonna be busy, I can just not guzzle water and go once before work and I’m good.

 
Holding your bladder the entire day is not "adulting." It's not normal. It's not healthy. That is why people with spinal cord injuries died before the advent of catheterization--with a neurogenic bladder you don't start emptying until you get overflow incontinence, at which point the pressure in the bladder is high enough to start damaging the upper tract, and ultimately cause renal failure or urosepsis.

While there are valid reasons to hold your bladder (you're in the middle of a firefight, sewing up a ruptured AAA, binge-watching Better Call Saul...), there's really no reason to make a medical student hold it in that long.

Depriving people of food, water, and bathroom facilities is a hallmark of forced labor and concentration camps, and many prisons.

I unfortunately have to echo what many are saying here-OB was a particularly malignant rotation at my school too, regardless of whether we were hard workers/dedicated or slackers. One male OB resident I worked with was fantastic, but another (the chief) was the worst resident I'd ever worked with. Just a really nasty guy to everyone, including the OB sub-I who worked her butt off. The students who worked at the community hospital (no residents) had a phenomenal time--nice attendings, far better hours, more teaching, and they all did far better on the shelf.

I was not talking about a medical student having to not use the restroom, I was talking about being a resident and being so busy you forget you even have to pee because there are more pressing things that need to get done. I would never make a med student hold their bladder purely for fun. Also our medical students get to eat at regular intervals and all “ask without asking” to go home before 5pm, and they do. I was talking about the fact that residents are very busy and medical students don’t often take the time to really understand how much we are actually doing, and while I would never be nasty to a medical student, if you have asked “do you need anything else from me?” At 4:30pm you aren’t likely to get as much out of the rotation as you could have.

I don’t expect medical students to really understand because what residency is you just can’t understand until you are there. I thought I knew going in but I didn’t. It’s ok. you guys will be there soon enough. Just enjoy being able to eat, and pee, and study, because those things really do get put on the back burner when you have 73937384782 other things on the to do list.


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I was not talking about a medical student having to not use the restroom, I was talking about being a resident and being so busy you forget you even have to pee because there are more pressing things that need to get done. I would never make a med student hold their bladder purely for fun. Also our medical students get to eat at regular intervals and all “ask without asking” to go home before 5pm, and they do. I was talking about the fact that residents are very busy and medical students don’t often take the time to really understand how much we are actually doing, and while I would never be nasty to a medical student, if you have asked “do you need anything else from me?” At 4:30pm you aren’t likely to get as much out of the rotation as you could have.

I don’t expect medical students to really understand because what residency is you just can’t understand until you are there. I thought I knew going in but I didn’t. It’s ok. you guys will be there soon enough. Just enjoy being able to eat, and pee, and study, because those things really do get put on the back burner when you have 73937384782 other things on the to do list.


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This is what I’m saying too. Anyone who’s a jerk just to be a jerk sounds like a sociopath, even in the Army I have my soldiers ample time to go to the bathroom. But I’ve seen with soldiers, nursing students etc, people asking to be excused to the bathroom within an hour of arriving, repeatedly. Go before you leave home. And stuff happens. But my point is that adulting means you don’t always get to go to the bathroom. Plan ahead- go before you arrive. Don’t drink a ton of liquid when you have a busy day ahead of you.
 
I was not talking about a medical student having to not use the restroom, I was talking about being a resident and being so busy you forget you even have to pee because there are more pressing things that need to get done. I would never make a med student hold their bladder purely for fun. Also our medical students get to eat at regular intervals and all “ask without asking” to go home before 5pm, and they do. I was talking about the fact that residents are very busy and medical students don’t often take the time to really understand how much we are actually doing, and while I would never be nasty to a medical student, if you have asked “do you need anything else from me?” At 4:30pm you aren’t likely to get as much out of the rotation as you could have.

I don’t expect medical students to really understand because what residency is you just can’t understand until you are there. I thought I knew going in but I didn’t. It’s ok. you guys will be there soon enough. Just enjoy being able to eat, and pee, and study, because those things really do get put on the back burner when you have 73937384782 other things on the to do list.


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I’m not sure why your quoting me-my original response was not directed at you. (Unless you said the exact same thing as RNtoMD)

I am not a med student-I am an attending. I have been through residency. I do understand. I have and sometimes still have days where I go a long period of time without a break to eat/use the restroom. But I would never force anyone to go without breaks unless it were critical (which in PM&R is essentially non-existent aside from rapid responses/codes).
 
Right Bobert, but I don't see why an attending would make a student hold their pee just because. I would figure that there is a reason. And if such a reason was present, said student needs to quit whining and just do what needs to be done and remember to void before he/she has to go next time. With obvious exceptions like pregnancy etc ofcourse.
 
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