Most-likely-to-succeed, to "Prestigious U," to failed drop-out and back again

[ChandutheMagici]

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calimeds, I think you did make a comeback. You've shown that you can successfully start and run a business. That's a talent few people have--far fewer, I'd say, than the number who have the ability to be a doctor. (I can tell you that at least for me, medicine was a "backup plan" of sorts: the only ticket I felt I had to the upper-middle-class life, given that I have no business acumen.) You could make millions and have more of your life to do what you want; why subject yourself to years of medical education and training? You want to help people? Make your millions with just a few years in business and then spend the rest of your life volunteering.

I think you have a lot of options and medicine is far from the best one for you.

Oh buddy, you never lose your touch. Your cynicism brings me joy beyond compare. Seriously, I laugh everytime I read one of your posts.

 

[calimeds]

An update - for those that provided encouragement on this thread - I just finished the second semester of physics in the accelerated post-bacc I'm in and pulled another A. 4.0 so far in my post-bacc. Going to take one more class in my current program (since I'm already in it and I don't want to waste time this spring not taking classes) and then apply to better post baccs for the fall.

Confidence is rising a bit. Wish me luck in my next block of classes - start tomorrow.

🙂

 

[Mister T]

An update - for those that provided encouragement on this thread - I just finished the second semester of physics in the accelerated post-bacc I'm in and pulled another A. 4.0 so far in my post-bacc. Going to take one more class in my current program (since I'm already in it and I don't want to waste time this spring not taking classes) and then apply to better post baccs for the fall.

Confidence is rising a bit. Wish me luck in my next block of classes - start tomorrow.

🙂

A) Nobody cares.
B) You are so worried about "prestigious" medical schools --- are you really worried about "prestige" that much? If you really made six figures or million in your side business as you claim you did, then you're an idiot if you want to go into medicine for "prestige." What a waste of time and huge opportunity costs. And the best you'll get into is a low tier to mid tier MD school. Look into the Texas Fresh Start program by the way --- they let you effectively erase your undergrad grades if you've been out of school for 10 years. That's your best bet.
C) Now I'm gonna explain why you got ****ed. You were a "big fish in a small pond" in high school. So was I, high SAT scores, didn't have to work hard to understand material, I mean come on, it's high school, it's ridiculous easy, our high school system sucks. Our country has no redeeming educational qualities that are taught at an early age.


So you do well in all your community college classes, high school classes, and you get your As primarily from your "intelligence."

You probably did alright the first two years of college but then when you hit the upper two years, you got ****ed. So at the worst possible time, you get an unexpected surprise --- one that screws you academically. Is it really fair that it set you back several years? No, not really. I mean the kids who screwed up in high school and middle school got to start over on a fresh slate in college, but you really didn't.

Why? Because your whole life you adjusted to using reasoning ability and conceptual understanding over bull**** information --- which is something that the "stupider" kids adjusted at an age far earlier than someone like you. To put it simply, they got ****ed pretty young, and sobered up and realized that to get anywhere in life that you had to work hard for it.

However, there's another corollary to all of this, that you just don't seem to realize.

You chose the "prestigious" undergrad over the "easy, no name" schools.

You tell me --- what would you rather be?

1) A genius in a room of geniuses?
2) A genius in a room of average people?
3) A genius in a room of ******s?


People like you and me ended up going to 1), which in hindsight, if you knew you were going into medicine OR law, you would have realized that the number of As given out would have been less, AND the competition is on magnitudes of levels above what you would have at your average college with a 1000 SAT score and 75 average.

Case in point? The highest paid doctors that I know (a radiologist and a spinal surgery orthopedic surgeon) make between $500,000-$1,000,000 a year and they went to lousy SUNY Plattsburgh and Albany respectively.

They were also mediocre high school students too.

Smart, but as far as the books go, mediocre, and as we all know, high school/college grades (exception to engineering, math, and any other "hard science") don't mean **** really, standardized exams do.

So basically, you got ****ed hard. Your low gpa makes you look like a *******, when there's some REAL ****** who's gotten into medical school right now with a 4.0 from SUNY INBREDville and a 30 MCAT score, because that's what the adcoms like.

Another point is that if you have ADD/ADHD, then so do I and 99% of the men on these forums.


I suspect that you are a male (like myself), and WE, in general, ARE NOT DETAIL ORIENTED by nature. We're far more naturally analytical/conceptual-oriented. Women, on the other hand, tend to have more developed frontal lobes and are thus better at organization, detail work and what not. It's a big reason why so many girls are ahead in the classroom where "hard work" is graded more heavily than "intelligence" unless you're in the hard sciences. It's also a reason why girls now constitute 50% or more in med. classes and in other professions given equal opportunities for education. Sorry guys, but we really are behind girls when it comes to the class room, and I don't think there is much that can be done to change that, you just have to wait as you get older and start realizing that failure is not an option (which is not the reason why girls are so motivated).

I know that when I was younger, I was very scatterbrained and had "trouble" memorizing.

It wasn't trouble, my friend, but just a lack of discipline and lack of motivation in studying so hard. But I don't blame myself nor should you --- I mean it's just not normal to sit in class for 8 hours for every day --- we just never evolved to do much more than besides hunt, forage, eat, ****, sleep, make some simple tools, have sex, and die. I wasn't "lazy" ---- I just couldn't study large amounts of orgo for instance without sighing and agonizing over every second in teh subject.Like you, I never needed to do that. I mean, to go from our public schooling system which have laughable educational standards to college where it's all hard work to medical school which is even harder work can be certainly shocking as it seems to be the case for you (not saying that you coasted along in college, but you certainly were in shock once you got hit with factoid-heavy classes).

As you get older that tends to change and you just get better at doing boring mundane work. That's a part of growing up.

In any case, I want to state that one of the fundamental aspects of life is that life is unfair --- I mean as you said in your first post, you would gladly lose a few IQ points in return for a better work ethic. Too much intelligence, if anything, blinds you. In any case, I, unfortunately, agree with you too. You'd think that intelligence is a redeeming quality in life, but many times --- hell most times in my experiences, it can be a curse.

We both know that medicine pays extremely well, and that it's status is unrivaled to the exception of say the President of the United States, or a celebrity.

Too bad it doesn't select for "smart" people but "average" people with hard work.

In retrospect, though, I wouldn't have done so much additional bull**** in high school and should have relaxed a hell lot more, because it's all really pointless if you're going into medicine.

Edit: Intelligence + finance understanding + investing + money >>>> medicine.

 

[sixthangel9716]

go for it man, take the mcat, apply, then find out what happens. i would say u'd get into a med school in the us because you've got some mixed up history there. and you have changed a lot. people will see that. being unique is cool. go for it.