Mount Sinai School of Medicine PREP-Med Program

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Hello,

I recently looked through the postings here and noticed that people have been asking about the Postbaccalaureate Research Education Program in Medicine (PREP-Med) at Mount Sinai School of Medicine. I am a current student in the program. I am starting this thread to answer any questions that anybody has about the program. If you are more comfortable sending me a PM, go for it!

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I think many people including myself don't have much sense of what the program is about. Is it a new program? Is the program focused on making researchers? Would an aspiring MD aplicant in need of demonstrating aptitude in science classes be better off in a lecture/didactic focused SMP like GU or Drexel? Why did you choose Sinai? What's your assessment of the quality of the educational experience?

Thanks
 
Lindyhopper said:
I think many people including myself don't have much sense of what the program is about. Is it a new program? Is the program focused on making researchers? Would an aspiring MD aplicant in need of demonstrating aptitude in science classes be better off in a lecture/didactic focused SMP like GU or Drexel? Why did you choose Sinai? What's your assessment of the quality of the educational experience?

Thanks

The focus of the program, like some others of these masters programs, is to improve your credentials for applying to medical school. What I think makes this program different is that it goes above and beyond just helping you improve yourself "on paper." Although the program is run by the graduate school, the med school, hospital, laboratories, etc. are all under one roof, which means you basically are immersed in every aspect of the profession. Since it is a new program, you have have A LOT of flexibility with regard to what you want to spend your time doing. There is a lot of research involved, but it can be in anything you want. In the end you will have a published masters thesis and probably a published paper, all of which will actually help you after med school when you are applying for residency.

With regard to classes, you take courses with PhD and MD/PhD students, courses that are actually more advanced than medical school courses. What this means (what I have noticed in my own application process) is that performing at the same level as doctoral students in classes looks very impressive (I received B/B+ in most classes, which is still considered awesome). Depending on what research area you are interested in, you have the opportunity to take electives as well. For example, I am involved in virology/immunology research so I took the microbiology course in the med school with medical students (I actually got my highest grade in this course, after taking the other courses, medical courses felt far easier). I think its far more interesting and more unique to take these types of courses, you have 4 years ahead of you for didactic learning, I wanted to try something different in the meantime.

One of the reasons I chose this program is that the administration here is AMAZING. They know each and every student, and we are all on a first-name basis; Its pretty awesome to apply to medical school with 3 LORs from a medical school written by people who know you really well. The students here , both grad students and med students, are really laid back and warm.

As far as my experience goes, I've received 8 interview invites and 2 acceptances so far. There is plenty more I can say, but I'm already rambling. Let me know if you have more questions, hope this helped!
 
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Average GPA and MCAT for those who are actually accepted to the program would be most helpful for those interested in the program.
 
i dont know that info offhand, but there are no cutoffs...ill try to find that out for you though...re-taking the mcat is also another component of this program, so its not like you need 30+ to get in...you are provided tutors for mcat prep here
 
Hi guys

I just copied this from their website, it's their "selection criteria" section. Didn't see avg GPA/MCAT scores, looks like you can do the program if you are pre-PHD or pre-MD:

Post-Baccalaureate Research Education Program (PREP)
Selection Criteria

Underrepresented minority students who have earned their Baccalaureate degree and have a keen interest in entering a Ph.D. or M.D./Ph.D. program are encouraged to apply to this dynamic preparatory program. In reviewing a candidate's application, we consider a variety of criteria that demonstrate whether the candidate exhibits potential and motivation towards research with the expectation to matriculate in a Ph.D. or M.D./Ph.D. program.

* Letters of recommendation
* Interviews
* Courses completed
* GPA trend during the undergraduate years
 
hey guys,

i found out the stats for you, the average undergrad gpa/mcat is 3.30/29...to give you an idea of how personal the program is, there are only 13 of us right now...also, PREP is different than PREP-Med...PREP is a postbac program geared toward URM who want to do PhD or MD/PhD, PREP-Med is a masters-degree program for students who want to do MD or MD/PhD

the program is tuition bearing for 3 semesters (1.5 years), after which you are free to stay on for an additional half year if you want to continue your research or do other things here
 
Do you know what else they look for in an applicant? Given my numbers I would be competitive but what about the intangibles? You say it's personal, and that's great. I'd like to know how much feedback and help do you get with your med school application. You mentioned LORs but what about personal statement feedback, mock interviews, etc.? How much other support do you get? Where in NYC is MSSM? I have no clue about anything about NY, so how secure is the neighborhood? I look like a crackhead so I'm not worried about getting jumped (I am worried about having people push those emergency-phones simply because I am in the vicinity because it's happened before but I'll manage that) but I am worried about vandalism and other property damage. How expensive is the neighborhood? Will I be able to live there or will I have to commute to the school from Jersey? How much time do you have to volunteer in a clinical setting? How supportive is the administration towards clinical activities? I can get a volunteer position at any hospital but will the school help you shadow a physician? Any other thoughts? I really appreciated your rambling response earlier.
Thanks.
 
Hey,

I forgot to mention that stuff, thanks. You get A LOT of help with your applications. I had the deans of the grad school and med school helping me with my personal statement and doing mock interviews with me. Student support is one of the things that Sinai is known for, they really care about you succeeding. Another thing to consider is that since this is such a young program, it is really important for them to have students who goes through it get accepted, as this will attract more people to come here.

Sinai is located on the boundary of the Upper East Side and East Harlem. Don't let the Harlem part scare you though, its a very safe area, just a block away from Central Park. It is ridiculously cheap to live here actually, all students are guaranteed housing in an apartment building 2 blocks away from the school/hospital. The rent is $519/month 🙂. If you want to do clinical work or shadowing, they will help you find physicians to work with. Aside from my basic science research, I was interested in doing clinical research, and they arranged it for me.
 
Congrats on doing so well in the application process! In doing this program, given your affiliation with Sinai, do you have an advantage in applying to Mt Sinai med? Is that one of the schools to which you were acceptance?
 
Thanks...Sinai is not one of those acceptances, I actually had my interview a week ago (hopefully I can stay here!)...being in the program is by no means a guarantee that you'll get into the med school, but I think that doing well in the program can help to prove that you can do well at the med school.
 
This program sounds great so far. For one I would prefer being a member of a small group of students rather than just another face in the crowd. And as great as the more established smp programs are I'm afraid the end result would be a transcript, minimal advising, and nothing much else to show for the experience.
I wonder however, given the amount of time needed to complete research and take courses, do you think enough time would be available to study for the MCAT? Is admissions looking to accept students with research experience only?
 
Sorry for the delay in responding...

As far as time for MCAT prep goes, its gets a lot of priority in the program. The program directors arrange for current medical students to tutor you based on what areas (physical sci, bio sci, verbal) you feel you need help with. They will purchase the books for you as well. Having said that, you do need to figure out the best way to manage classes, research, and MCAT studying but if you were in undergrad studying for the mcats it would be the same thing. However, as long as you let people (members of your lab) know that you have to study for mcats, they will definitely understand. In my case, I was able to have shorter days in lab while studying for the mcat and was able to take off a whole month prior to the exam as well. This is all stuff to consider when choosing which lab you want to be a part of. In addition to finding research that you are interested in, you need to work with people who are understanding of what you are trying to accomplish.

And no, you don't need lots of prior research experience to get into the program. I was a business major as an undergrad and had absolutely no prior basic science research experience.
 
hi-

do you need to be finished with all your prereqs to enter the program? also, is it possible to do the program in one year?

thanks,
em
 
1.5 years... academic years? so one summer and a 2 semesters/3 quarters would coun't

or 1.5 regular years... so 18 months?
 
its not really possible to finish in a year, not because of classes, but because of time u need to have substantial results in your lab to complete a masters thesis...i would say that technically the 1.5 years refers to academic time, but it essentially will be 1.5 years in real time, depending on your research...in my case, i still worked at my lab this past summer...in my experience, the first year has more emphasis on classwork/mcat with the summer serving as a transition into more full-time lab work and med school applications...then the time thereafter is pretty much lab full-time, not much class, just working on ur project and going to interviews and getting into med school!
 
MtSinaiPREPMed,

What type of degree are you conferred at the end of your training? Also, how easy is it for you to take classes in the medical school curriculum?

Thanks in advance!
 
According to their web site the min gpa is 3.45 and MCAT >=32 🙁
 
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