Mountains - Game Thread

[Crayola227]

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Who said earlier that they thought this felt like village Barks? I want to ask them why.

genny

 

[Truenamer]

Well, True spent half of last game whalehunting.

Honestly, perhaps the most fun I've had on these forums.

I disagree with Mayo, by the way; I think your focus/tone/reactions are noticeably different in this game versus last game.

 

[Crayola227]

Reasons that may be clarified upon her return, hence I haven't done it yet

was this ever addressed?

 

[holdthemayo]

@holdthemayo when you get a chance

She has burnt me in the past. She was a bit late on the please wagon and has seemed hedgy the whole game.

She is a bit like genny in that she is fairly enigmatic and hard for me to read.

I would prefer to vote PSV or Sunny, but I'm willing to entertain barks. I think you all are wrong on Vis and should reevaluate.

 

[supershorty]

Does anyone else remember that time that I was skeeved out by Barky's D1 vote, voted her for it, and then people (who were all village) told me she seemed village and I backed off?

Because I keep thinking about that.

 

[WildZoo]

was this ever addressed?

Not exactly, I changed my mind

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Barks (1) - True
Vis (1) - Barks
sunshine (2) - PSV, dubz
mayo (2) - Vis, shorty
Zenge (1) - dolphin

7/13
sunshine and mayo are in the lead!
Missing: genny, speechy, Cray, mayo, Zenge, sunshine
yeet close in ~48 minutes

 

[holdthemayo]

Honestly, perhaps the most fun I've had on these forums.

I disagree with Mayo, by the way; I think your focus/tone/reactions are noticeably different in this game versus last game.

Can you give examples. I'm open to being wrong, but haven't seen it this way so far.

 

[Crayola227]

This is sus

agreed, but how many less ****s do I give about looking sus when village than when wolf, and is it AI? I think so, but to be fair it perhaps others don't see it.

wondering if you still think I'm sus and why.

 

[speechy_keen]

I'm going to vote now then skedaddle so I can tend to the injured dog I'm pet sitting.

yeet mayo

I'm voting for him based on his confrontational tone.

 

[genny]

Does anyone else remember that time that I was skeeved out by Barky's D1 vote, voted her for it, and then people (who were all village) told me she seemed village and I backed off?

Because I keep thinking about that.

nope, don't remember that. who did she vote for?

 

[holdthemayo]

Does anyone else remember that time that I was skeeved out by Barky's D1 vote, voted her for it, and then people (who were all village) told me she seemed village and I backed off?

Because I keep thinking about that.

What game was this?

 

[WildZoo]

can you say more? not sure what you mean by soft reads in a game with no PRs?

I mean soft reads as in the leans I had that had not fully formed into solid reads

Not softs in terms of PR softs

 

[supershorty]

nope, don't remember that. who did she vote for?

Dina

What game was this?

WWedding.

 

[Crayola227]

####vote Barks###

feeling the 3 way, I like all top contenders rn, but sunny and mayo being in lead if not much movement concerns me for being wrong

wanna see what happens with Barks in danger as well now

 

[WildZoo]

Does anyone else remember that time that I was skeeved out by Barky's D1 vote, voted her for it, and then people (who were all village) told me she seemed village and I backed off?

Because I keep thinking about that.

I remember

 

[genny]

agreed, but how many less ****s do I give about looking sus when village than when wolf, and is it AI? I think so, but to be fair it perhaps others don't see it.

wondering if you still think I'm sus and why.

i think it's sus you type with one hand

but other than that, no more sus than the usual amount of sus i give you credit for.

 

[holdthemayo]

I'm going to vote now then skedaddle so I can tend to the injured dog I'm pet sitting.

yeet mayo

I'm voting for him based on his confrontational tone.

This is sort of peak noob vote. I hope you play again, and I hope you aren't getting burnt this game.

 

[supershorty]

Does anyone else remember that time that I was skeeved out by Barky's D1 vote, voted her for it, and then people (who were all village) told me she seemed village and I backed off?

Because I keep thinking about that.

Unyeet mayo
Yeet Barky

 

[Crayola227]

Huh, I never got a notification about Dubz asking my opinion on mayo.
I'm conflicted. I feel like we haven't seen much of him talking about this game. I found it odd he was trying to correct me talking about my past wolfing games but hasn't seemed to put forth any of his own thoughts other than to say he felt bad about me. I've only played with him once and last game wasn't exactly an ideal situation, so I won't pretend to know how to discriminate his wolf vs village play. It's also possible he may be really busy this game and that's why he isn't here, but overall his play hasn't seemed very pro-village.

something about this though, is giving me cold feet about mayo

mayo was giving me village vibes this game, which I typically wouldn't trust and would read as wolf knowing what I know now

but you make a good point, that he's not exactly doing a *good* job of villaging

and wolf mayo does a good job of seeming like a good villager.... so I have to ask myself, if he seems like a bad villager, is this more a sign he is village? would wolf mayo really be making this low of an effort? or is this more of a village thing?

I know I don't work as hard at village games as I do wolf games, maybe mayo is simlar. food for thoguht

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Barks (3) - True, Cray, shorty
Vis (1) - Barks
sunshine (2) - PSV, dubz
mayo (2) - Vis, speechy
Zenge (1) - dolphin

9/13
@Barkley13 is in the lead!
Missing: genny, mayo, Zenge, sunshine
yeet close in ~45 minutes

 

[Crayola227]

Huh, I never got a notification about Dubz asking my opinion on mayo.
I'm conflicted. I feel like we haven't seen much of him talking about this game. I found it odd he was trying to correct me talking about my past wolfing games but hasn't seemed to put forth any of his own thoughts other than to say he felt bad about me. I've only played with him once and last game wasn't exactly an ideal situation, so I won't pretend to know how to discriminate his wolf vs village play. It's also possible he may be really busy this game and that's why he isn't here, but overall his play hasn't seemed very pro-village.

I've said before as well, that randing wolf D1 hands to you from the incpetion of the game a very clear agenda and list of priorities, it is this very thing that detecting will catch wolves.... villagers on the other hand can easily come off very aimless, likely moreso than if wolf

obvs meta matters, but this rule of thumb can be useful at times

 

[genny]

something about this though, is giving me cold feet about mayo

mayo was giving me village vibes this game, which I typically wouldn't trust and would read as wolf knowing what I know now

but you make a good point, that he's not exactly doing a *good* job of villaging

and wolf mayo does a good job of seeming like a good villager.... so I have to ask myself, if he seems like a bad villager, is this more a sign he is village? would wolf mayo really be making this low of an effort? or is this more of a village thing?

I know I don't work as hard at village games as I do wolf games, maybe mayo is simlar. food for thoguht

this is like peak wifom

 

[supershorty]

Dina

WWedding.

I pulled some of the quotes from when I was initially triggered, but I'll have to search to get people's reactions and I'm not sure that's the best use of my time right now.

Spoiler

Fifth?

Yeet Dina

Why Dina?

As I always say she’s a sneaky one! I had no idea she was a wolf last time 😱

Yeet Barky

Thoughts?

I got a tingle from her response when I asked why you. And I was a little surprised by her choice.

 

[Crayola227]

ugh I got the child to fall asleep and put her down in the crib, and already she's awake fml

4 mo sleep regression SUXXXXXXXXXX

 

[Crayola227]

this is like peak wifom

peak wifom is where I live

it's a crazy place but someone has to think about these things

 

[Zenge142]

I think I’ll keep with my barks vote from yesterday. The reads list today was a little too weird for my taste.

 

[Zenge142]

Yeet Barks

 

[potentialsheltervet]

I don't think you only did that with the jailing either, but I dont' have time to go reread another game.

I understand this now. I thought you were saying a previous game as in before LiterWWary.
I'm pretty sure I did only do that with the jailing though.

 

[Crayola227]

This post coming from cray kinda weirds me out. It seems like a kneejerk reaction of “gotta look like I’m sprinkling sus everywhere”. Wouldn’t village cray be logicking through her suspicions and see no reason for a wolf to be fishing in an open setup mountainous game?

you're seriously asking if cray would be logicking through her suspicions? it's like you've never even played with me lol

trying to decide if this post is real or fake

 

[sunshinefl]

Why is sunny village?

RNG

I have misgivings about sunny being so recalcitrant after she was enthusiastic about having time to play now.

I’m on vacation as of now

 

[Viscernable]

you're seriously asking if cray would be logicking through her suspicions? it's like you've never even played with me lol

trying to decide if this post is real or fake

I think of you as a very logical player… ?

 

[holdthemayo]

something about this though, is giving me cold feet about mayo

mayo was giving me village vibes this game, which I typically wouldn't trust and would read as wolf knowing what I know now

but you make a good point, that he's not exactly doing a *good* job of villaging

and wolf mayo does a good job of seeming like a good villager.... so I have to ask myself, if he seems like a bad villager, is this more a sign he is village? would wolf mayo really be making this low of an effort? or is this more of a village thing?

I know I don't work as hard at village games as I do wolf games, maybe mayo is simlar. food for thoguht

I can't decide if this is a compliment, an insult, or a tinfoil

 

[Crayola227]

M'kay, I ISO'd mayo. It wasn't very hard because he only has 13 posts.

Spoiler: ISO enclosed

D1, says he hasn't read most of the posts. Implies he's busy IRL and hasn't had time to catch up on thread, which is of course NAI but may help explain why we haven't seen him around.

He never changed his vote here. I don't want to delve deep into it, but I don't see how yeeting someone just because they're in a practice game and then not changing the vote when better information presents itself is pro-village play.

Justification for zenge vote. Again, I'm not going back to read Season 8 championship game to see his logic. But it very much feels like a throwaway to deposit your vote on someone just because.

This post gives me a strangely AtE vibe. It's very cilantro lime.

Here's what I was talking about. Why latch onto me grumbling about getting sus'd D1 instead of commenting on reads or sharing his own? Seems like a strange thing to focus on.
Also. I didn't pull the quote and now I'm fired up but something tickling me is that later on mayo said he thought I was suggesting I had only wolfed a single time. And yet, above he says "those", plural, as in there was more than one game in which I was a wolf and was yoten correctly. Semantics, but it's making me itchy.

I'm very familiar with my wolfing history, and while my memory may not be AM's, I definitely remember what happened last game given the kerwaffle EOD D1. I'm not understanding where he was coming from with trying to act like I was obfuscating history here.

This isn't my interpretation of what happened but since I'm the topic, I may be slightly biased. I also don't understand the impression that I wasn't wolf hunting. The Bioshock thing was manufactured in the sense that I was trying to see if I could get an "aha!" moment. I believe at this point paws and please had also expressed confusion/sus about me so saying "everyone else" was a stretch.

tl;dr
I'm not vibing with mayo's posts. Too many little things are picking my guitar to ignore them. I may yeet there today and barks tomorrow.

just saw this iso. The last quote did have a stretchy feel, so now i am definitely back to being concerned. But just not for the reasoning of saying he's doign poor villaging or not partricpating per se. Not sure I'll see his latest posts in time for yeet

 

[sunshinefl]

was Paws sussing sunny?

No, in fact when someone (maybe dubz? Shorty? No time to look now) tried to say my take on her was dumb she defended it.

Because I will tell you there are two reasons why someone under a lot of sus and possible to misyeet going by gamestate, gets killed by wolves. One we discussed, was if a PR is suspected. Which I don't know if applies to this game. The other reason, is if the wolves feel that person's on thread contributions are likely to hurt one or members of the pack. Now, there are two arguments against this thought. "But if the wolves kill a sketchy player because of their reads hittting too close to home, won't that just increase the scrutiny on that player's reads and put more sus on the wolf being sussed correctly by that player?" and I already forgot the other argument. Been up early with the bebe. But no, wolves will still often NK the player they feel they need silenced rather than waiting for village to misyeet them even when that misyeet feels imminent. Many wolves would rather have to defend against the sus from a dead player, than have to defend directly with the live player able to actively contribute.

I also rarely feel like wolves NK solely to shock village or cause WIFOM discussions. I mean, they don't want to do anything that gets village too riled up and actually talking. I mean, sure, sometimes, wolves can do anything. I'm just speaking in generalities. Point is, don't assume wolves ever do anything too randomly or just to shock (although sometimes they do) and really, just limit your assumptions becausse that's all they can ever be unless you get added to pack chat.

Vis
sunny
mayo
speechy
Barks
PSV
Cray
genby
dolphin
True
Zenge
shorty

This list deserves a wow react.

Visc in my catch up is trying to shade me quite a bit so how you think we’re compatible I don’t know.

 

[holdthemayo]

I’m on vacation as of now

Anywhere fun?

 

[Crayola227]

I can't decide if this is a compliment, an insult, or a tinfoil

not trying to insult, I just mean that you not being around and saying a lot may not be completely a good wolf sign because villagers do that too

 

[WildZoo]

Visc in my catch up is trying to shade me quite a bit so how you think we’re compatible I don’t know.

I don't think I said you were compatible.

 

[WildZoo]

No, in fact when someone (maybe dubz? Shorty? No time to look now) tried to say my take on her was dumb she defended it.

I also never said your take was dumb, I just asked what was giving you that impression

 

[Crayola227]

Do you think it’s any weirder than her subbing in for someone and entering the thread subbing that person?

basically this

but thanks for the compliment vis

I can only logic what I remember tho, which lately hasn't been great

 

[Animal Midwife]

Day 2 Yeet Tally
Barks (4) - True, Cray, shorty, Zenge
Vis (1) - Barks
sunshine (2) - PSV, dubz
mayo (2) - Vis, speechy
Zenge (1) - dolphin

10/13
Barks is in the lead!
Missing: genny, mayo, sunshine
yeet close in ~30 minutes

 

[Crayola227]

The reason it bothered me was his reasoning for not believing in plot armor. It bothers me when people yeet noobs or past mods for that same reason (not believing in the rule of not yeeting them). I don't see the point of yeeting someone just as a personal stand. Now, if he thought Zenge was actually being super wolfy, then sure. Yeet away. But my personal preference is for people to always vote for something they believe in or make it clear the post is a joke.
Anyway, I know mayo said he didn't want to have this discussion again and I'm not going to try to force my personal gameplay beliefs on other players, but that's where I was coming from.

eh, the stance itself isn't wolfy as ihe did it before and got a lot of heat for it, and was actually village

that doesn't mean he isn't doing a wolfy recycle of a past move though, just saying the move itself isn't wolfy for him per se

 

[Crayola227]

THIS post (that you responded to did), but when zenge gets very riddler-ish especially when he swoops in with it upon mention of his name like he was lurking all along, is sus. And he has been doing that.

Tinfoil is a mood. But no, not projecting. I still have a mix. In fact I’m pretty sure I’m the one who inspired the “so many hmmm reacts” comment a bit ago. My same code still applies. Guess Dubz just disproportionately says shocking, surprising, and appalling things.

can you expound on what apalling things have been said this game?

 

[sunshinefl]

Okay. I'll try this.

Unyeet Vis yeet sunny

....because?

 

[WildZoo]

....because?

Some of your posts have felt off. Where are your thoughts at on things currently?

 

[sunshinefl]

I'm actually pretty good at reading Vissy. Both factions of Vis ask a lot of questions, but Village Vs is less defensive and is more prickly. I'm actually really surprised that she is being so widely sussed.

Village sunny likes to type in all capitals and is brazen. I remember her wolfing being more subdued. I also don't think she has done much to advance the village. I feel like she has been more active than several people without actually contributing more.

I feel like sunny usually goes to all caps when she's angery, though, I'm not sure I remember her doing that unprovoked?

Yes, only when provoked. And last time I played the provoking went too far if you guys remember? And then the hiatus. And well, the residency.

My thought train has circled back around to sunny's seeming concern about whether Barks was going to self prez and trying to decide how I feel about that.

I got caught off but shut down of night thread. I misread who was on where and typed another post but it was too late. I really didn’t think please was a wolf and there was like 30 seconds and in my panic somehow did bad eye processing/math that barks moving would save please even though barks was on please.

 

[supershorty]

Yes, only when provoked. And last time I played the provoking went too far if you guys remember?

Mmmm... that's not how I'd characterize it.

But I won't say more on that. Won't be productive.

 

[supershorty]

There are 16 minutes left and 3 of you are still sitting on your votes, what are you waiting for?

 

[genny]

frozen. do i vote with the people i'm village reading, or do i vote with my heart?

 

[holdthemayo]

Yes, only when provoked. And last time I played the provoking went too far if you guys remember? And then the hiatus. And well, the residency.

I got caught off but shut down of night thread. I misread who was on where and typed another post but it was too late. I really didn’t think please was a wolf and there was like 30 seconds and in my panic somehow did bad eye processing/math that barks moving would save please even though barks was on please.

May be ATE

Vote Barks