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Final Day 2 Yeet Tally
Barks (5) - True, Cray, shorty, Zenge, mayo
Vis (1) - Barks
sunshine (3) - PSV, dubz, genny
mayo (2) - Vis, speechy
Zenge (1) - dolphin
Cray (1) - sunshine

13/13
 
Dead is @Barkley13 Edvard Grieg, vanilla townie

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Roster
1. @genny
2. @speechy_keen
3. @potentialsheltervet
4. @Crayola227
5. @holdthemayo
6. @Viscernable
7. @WildZoo
8. @Zenge142
12. @sunshinefl
13. @Truenamer
14. @dolphin106258
15. @supershorty
 
I don’t see a wolf!Zenge holding out on a reads list like that - historically, he has those ready to go. And he had a few analytical posts yesterday that were much more characteristic of his village play than his wolf play. He was triggering me intensely, but the more he triggers me D2, the more likely it is that he’s village.
 
This is where I was sitting early this morning, but I have a lot of people to reevaluate.

Village leans:
Zenge

Cray

True

Neutrals:
genny
dolphin
speech
Vis

POE:
sunny
mayo

That's where I'm sitting at right now, but that POE isn't super compatible, doesn't have enough people, and this isn’t the level of revision that I think I need to do when we’re at D3 without a wolf. But I’m leaving it here so I can work through it later when I have time.
 
holdthemayo said:
Fair. Post some when it reopens?
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Here are are two twisted tinfoil theories to try to build a case against me entirely based on things that are known to be factually incorrect.

And cray does not normally do that to me. On a scale from Mayo to shorty on this topic, she would be very close to a Mayo.
Crayola227 said:
Most games the most likely explanation for a NK on a player high in the POE is that wolves thought they sniffed a PR. But none in this game, right? Or was there at least 2? If no PRs this game, she's an odd choice. If there are, the sunny comment about "cards close to vest" I had a feel of too on Paws, and that had me worried about a PR and I'm not even good at sniffing that when it's my job as a wolf, so if village me caught that, wouldnt be surprised if woofs did too. If you're village you're likely to mistake this vibe for wolfy. If you're wolf, well, you know it can't be wolfiness... sometimes a village PR is trying to get data from the class and the thread for making a target choice, and wolves can definitely pick up on that. That's my theory. If there are PRs. I dunno. My life is crazy these days so yeah. The Chesire cat comment...

Who said that? Definitely eyeing Sunny or who made that comment, because I wonder if they are wolves sniffing for PRs. Do they exist this game?
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Crayola227 said:
was Paws sussing sunny?

Because I will tell you there are two reasons why someone under a lot of sus and possible to misyeet going by gamestate, gets killed by wolves. One we discussed, was if a PR is suspected. Which I don't know if applies to this game. The other reason, is if the wolves feel that person's on thread contributions are likely to hurt one or members of the pack. Now, there are two arguments against this thought. "But if the wolves kill a sketchy player because of their reads hittting too close to home, won't that just increase the scrutiny on that player's reads and put more sus on the wolf being sussed correctly by that player?" and I already forgot the other argument. Been up early with the bebe. But no, wolves will still often NK the player they feel they need silenced rather than waiting for village to misyeet them even when that misyeet feels imminent. Many wolves would rather have to defend against the sus from a dead player, than have to defend directly with the live player able to actively contribute.

I also rarely feel like wolves NK solely to shock village or cause WIFOM discussions. I mean, they don't want to do anything that gets village too riled up and actually talking. I mean, sure, sometimes, wolves can do anything. I'm just speaking in generalities. Point is, don't assume wolves ever do anything too randomly or just to shock (although sometimes they do) and really, just limit your assumptions becausse that's all they can ever be unless you get added to pack chat.
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supershorty said:
This is where I was sitting early this morning, but I have a lot of people to reevaluate.

Village leans:
Zenge

Cray

True

Neutrals:
genny
dolphin
speech
Vis

POE:
sunny
mayo

That's where I'm sitting at right now, but that POE isn't super compatible, doesn't have enough people, and this isn’t the level of revision that I think I need to do when we’re at D3 without a wolf. But I’m leaving it here so I can work through it later when I have time.
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Am I blind or am I not on this list?
 
sunshinefl said:
Here are are two twisted tinfoil theories to try to build a case against me entirely based on things that are known to be factually incorrect.

And cray does not normally do that to me. On a scale from Mayo to shorty on this topic, she would be very close to a Mayo.
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I would hardly call either of those a tinfoil. The first is Cray not having read the intro post apparently. The second is explaining a scenario.
 
sunshinefl said:
Shorty vote trackers pls
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I think AM posts the vote trackers
Animal Midwife said:
Table of Contents
Day 1 - Final Tally; please was vanilla townie
Night 1 - Paws was vanilla townie
Day 2 - Final Tally; Barks was vanilla townie
Night 2 - dubz was vanilla townie
True (1) - Barks
dolphin (1) - dubz
dolphin () -
Zenge (1) - mayo
please (1) - shorty
please (2) - shorty, dubz
Paws (1) - Cray
True (2) - Barks, Paws
please (3) - shorty, dubz, Vis
True (1) - Paws
PSV (1) - please
Paws () -
Barks (1) - Cray
please (4) - shorty, dubz, Vis, Barks
PSV (2) - please, dolphin
Paws (1) - True
please (5) - shorty, dubz, Vis, Barks, PSV
Barks (2) - Cray, Zenge
sunshine (1) - genny
Paws (2) - True, sunshine
please (6) - shorty, dubz, Vis, Barks, PSV, speechy
please (5) - dubz, Vis, Barks, PSV, speechy
Barks (3) - Cray, Zenge, shorty

15/15
Barks (1) - shorty
Vis (1) - dubz
Barks (2) - shorty, True
sunshine (1) - PSV
Vis (2) - dubz, Barks
mayo (1) - Vis
Barks (1) - True
Vis (1) - Barks
sunshine (2) - PSV, dubz
Zenge (1) - dolphin
mayo (2) - Vis, shorty
mayo (3) - Vis, shorty, speechy
Barks (2) - True, Cray
mayo (2) - Vis, speechy
Barks (3) - True, Cray, shorty
Barks (4) - True, Cray, shorty, Zenge
Barks (5) - True, Cray, shorty, Zenge, mayo
Cray (1) - sunshine
sunshine (3) - PSV, dubz, genny

13/13
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sunshinefl said:
I couldn’t tell in the dog/cat/couch/rock convo if you were really there or not.

But of course later is all good.
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I am not there, but she is here.

Thanks for reminding me that I’m having an identity crisis over whether I am actually a dog 🤣
 
supershorty said:
Can’t until later, hanging from the ceiling with Dubz this morning
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What I'm hearing is that you had easy access to the murder victim 🧐🧐🧐

Surprised that shorty wasn't the target, given that she's being widely village-read, but by now I get why Night Kill Analysis isn't terribly productive.

Feeling least good about Mayo, Sunshine, Vis, and Dolphin. But this is my first game with Sunshine and Dolphin, so I think there's some bias at play there.
 
Truenamer said:
What I'm hearing is that you had easy access to the murder victim 🧐🧐🧐

Surprised that shorty wasn't the target, given that she's being widely village-read, but by now I get why Night Kill Analysis isn't terribly productive.

Feeling least good about Mayo, Sunshine, Vis, and Dolphin. But this is my first game with Sunshine and Dolphin, so I think there's some bias at play there.
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This is a very interesting turn of events from you....
 
potentialsheltervet said:
I'm trying to understand why you're still suspecting her.
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She felt pretty sketchy on D1, blasted us with some "everyone is being mean to me" AtE on D2, and we still haven't caught a wolf.

My PoE is pretty wide and I don't see why her being stressed on D2 should be enough to move her out of it.
 
Truenamer said:
She felt pretty sketchy on D1, blasted us with some "everyone is being mean to me" AtE on D2, and we still haven't caught a wolf.

My PoE is pretty wide and I don't see why her being stressed on D2 should be enough to move her out of it.
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I think her defense here sounds pretty different from what I remember in BoWWling, but my memory isn't perfect. Hold pls.
 
Okay, interesting. Went back through BoWWling and Vis basically didn't defend herself at all when she was going down. She continued to spread some sus at villagers, avoided commenting on her packmates, and didn't use AtE or get emotional whatsoever aside from a few posts that had a slight sassy tone to them.
I think she sounds vastly different here than there and therefore I'm scooting her further into the villagey side of neutral.
 
Does anyone else have thoughts on Vis's tone here compared to BoWWling? Preferably someone who's played with her more often than I have?
 
potentialsheltervet said:
Eh, I don't see wolf!true killing Dubz. She was village-reading him and I suspect he would've pulled her to endgame to lord it over her.
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Lol not to lord it over her, but because I think it would be easier to pocket her than most of you.

My kill list at this point (if they're village) would be:
shorty
Zenge
Mayo
Cray
 
This game is giving StardeWW. Why is genny being broadly village-read, again?
 
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