MS1 struggling to acquire meaningful research/EC's/summer.

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Hey, everyone.

It has been quite a while since I have posted to SDN--probably since I was accepted last year. Well, I am an MS1 now at the end of my first year of medical school at a mid-->upper-mid tier MD school. The tests and studying have been tough, yes, but not even close to impossible. It gets like hell for a week or two at a time, but the ebbs and flows do a good job of balancing themselves out. Also, I have volunteered in the various clubs and organizations, so I have not completely been all about study, study, study. I have allowed myself flexibility and room to breathe as I adjusted to this whole new world of medicine, but it's time to get more down to business and to do more. I digress now to the concerns I have.

As a medical student, I was expecting to be able to find outside opportunities, especially research, easily. Before I say more, I'll mention that my interests are in Psychiatry--and yes, I am fairly certain of this--so my searching has been quite focused in this area. I have put in a lot of effort. I have been struggling for 2-3 months now to secure a solid research involvement, especially for the summer. If I did find an involvement, the amount of hours was ridiculously small. I am now at the point where I have given up on focusing on one lab, and I am now extending myself in multiple directions, trying to secure many mini-opportunities. Basically, I am not trying to be exclusive to one lab anymore, because it seems like no one lab really has the need to take me on in a large amount. It has been very difficult to find a research lab that could take me on in any substantial manner. Research is also scarce around here it seems, especially in the psychiatric/psychological realm. This is leading me to have fears about the future--and I am catastrophizing a bit I think. Unfortunately, I have not yet brought myself to the point of faking interests and selling out for the sake of just doing research (e.g. pipetting and culturing tissues in a cancer research lab). I am being driven a bit crazy by my pursuits of finding meaningful involvements that pertain to my interests and passions. And of course, I want to be able to grow and experience productivity (which in the long run looks like abstracts, presentations and publications).

As a side note, I am a first generation college student--now in medical school. No doubt, this has played a role in what feels like my primarily fruitless efforts. So I may be approaching things naively, which may be hindering my outcomes. I am not sure what else I can do though.

On another side note, I am disappointed in how unprofessional, unhelpful and flakey many of the MD's and PhD's have been that I have tried to establish connections and relationships with in this field. It's disappointing to see that the older generation does not have as much an interest as I would have expected in fostering the next generation's personal and professional growth. I'm just an MS1, but I am already mentoring people younger than myself.

Since I have been struggling so much to secure research involvements, it has led me to fear that my summer (all 2 months of it) and its potential value towards my future is being compromised. I have looked at the NRMP data, and I see that even those going into Psychiatry have 3-4 productive outcomes (e.g. pubs, presentations, abstracts) on average from research. I feel so helpless right now in my searching, that even getting 3-4 feels like a complete fantasy at this stage of my medical school career.

How essential is the summer in general, and specifically for someone like me who has an interest in psychiatry? I will have some involvements, but at this point it feels like there is NO WAY I will be able to get anything close to full time to fill my schedule. When, on average, do you see research productivity really start coming out? When do medical students really start filling out their CV's with things that residencies will care about? Thank God I am not going into something that has 10+ pubs on average. How the heck am I going to get 3-4? I have between now and 4th year to get research experiences that pay off. This is how I feel.

I am open to any personal and professional insight or guidance from my fellow medical students and other colleagues at various stages of the game. Part of this thread was me being able to express my frustration to those that might understand, because I have been frustrated and let down for so long that it is causing me a lot of discomfort. A bigger part of this thread is to see what others might have to say. I am open to general dialogue about this topic all the way down to more specific problem-solving. Thanks for your time, folks!
 
"mid-->upper-mid tier MD school"
reminds me of the days when i used to play starcraft 2. i was diamond league but would always tell people i'm upper tier diamond/lower tier masters


you need to reevaluate your priorities. people should do research because they care about the work, not because they're trying to match up to what they saw on charting the outcomes. psych is not a competitive field
 
"mid-->upper-mid tier MD school"
reminds me of the days when i used to play starcraft 2. i was diamond league but would always tell people i'm upper tier diamond/lower tier masters


you need to reevaluate your priorities. people should do research because they care about the work, not because they're trying to match up to what they saw on charting the outcomes. psych is not a competitive field
I mentioned the ranking to give the reader an idea of what the funding might be for my institution. That's all. I did not intend to sound pretentious.

Also, I assure you that my primary interest is getting involved in research, and early too, but naturally one would hope productive outcomes would result. But it's also important that I know what reality looks like in terms of # of pubs for example. I stooped to the point of mentioning the uncompetitive NRMP stats in order to illustrate the current struggle. 3-4 should be a small task, yet it feels like a mountain right now. Passion and meaning aren't simply what put food on the table. 😉
 
It's psych, you don't need research to match. Calm down and breath.

If you want to get research for your own sake, that's great, keep looking for mentors, etc. Just realize your entire future is not going to be compromised by not doing psych research this summer. People go into more competitive fields than psych without any research after M1 year.
 
Does it have to be bench research?
If not you could get in touch with the Psych interest group? I believe most interest groups will have regular contact with attendings and/or residents. Once you get to know some people ask if they need any help with research projects.
 
Why not see some patients and hang out with a few attendings then see if any click to build relationships? Maybe those can turn into some research or case reports. Also, maybe psych isn't receptive to the go-getter vibe you may be putting off at your school?
 
Just keep sending e-mails and trying to follow up with people. This kind of crap is strictly a numbers game.
 
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