Jester4321

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Hello all,

I'm a new ms4 still trying to figure out my specialty. I really like peds and was wondering what one can expect to make first year out of residency and on (for outpatient or mixed not academics). Jobs online seem to vary a lot. Obviously money is not my only concern but i also don't want to be buried in debt forever (and just fyi to all you out there thinking you're going to get public loan forgiveness less than 3% that apply actually get it). Also willing to live almost anywhere but prefer south us. Thanks for the help.
 

sdfa8

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Hello all,

I'm a new ms4 still trying to figure out my specialty. I really like peds and was wondering what one can expect to make first year out of residency and on (for outpatient or mixed not academics). Jobs online seem to vary a lot. Obviously money is not my only concern but i also don't want to be buried in debt forever (and just fyi to all you out there thinking you're going to get public loan forgiveness less than 3% that apply actually get it). Also willing to live almost anywhere but prefer south us. Thanks for the help.
I'm only JUST starting off in peds as a PGY 1 so I can't say I know a lot, but I looked this up too, as I have a family and a ton of debt.

South US is way better than NE (aka NYC) from what I've heard (not a huge sample size so take that with a grain of salt). But, anywhere from 150K - 225K startingseems like the range-- the lower range in cities like Manhattan. Also consider state income tax or not, cost of living, benefits, etc., and that'll definitely add up and matter, too.

From what attendings have told me during my rotations 4th year, many peds specialty won't give you a bump in salary (some, like peds pulm, might pay less) but cards, NICU, PICU and peds EM seem to be the subspecialties that'll pay more. So definitely subspecialize if you have the passion and in the end, so many kids will benefit from that, but don't go into a specialty like Peds GI with the hopes of making $$ like adults GI.

Don't underestimate gen peds tho-- I have a colleague whose parents have a private practice and don't get me wrong, they put in a lot of work, but make $500K+ from their hours and huge patient base. They've been in the field for ~20 years though.


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Hello all,

I'm a new ms4 still trying to figure out my specialty. I really like peds and was wondering what one can expect to make first year out of residency and on (for outpatient or mixed not academics). Jobs online seem to vary a lot. Obviously money is not my only concern but i also don't want to be buried in debt forever (and just fyi to all you out there thinking you're going to get public loan forgiveness less than 3% that apply actually get it). Also willing to live almost anywhere but prefer south us. Thanks for the help.
I’m gonna guess you didn’t actually research this. Everyone who was denied was because they didn’t qualify. Wrong loans, didn’t submit the proper paperwork, etc. Its pretty amazing how bad they screwed up tbh

If you do everything according to the regulations for the program you don’t get denied. That’s how the program works...
 
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Funke

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I'm also an intern so this is not first hand experience, but what I've heard from residents at my home institution was anywhere from 150-250. Lower for 3-4 day work week with no call. Higher for 5 days a week with occasional hospital/newborn call and occasional weekend/urgent care shift. You can make over 300 as an established private pediatrician in a well-oiled practice.
 

Ladholyman

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About 180k starting salary for 0.8 FTE in Kaiser Permanente in Northern California as outpatient pediatrician. Over 200k for 1.0 FTE.
 

Funke

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About 180k starting salary for 0.8 FTE in Kaiser Permanente in Northern California as outpatient pediatrician. Over 200k for 1.0 FTE.
Hmm that's really not that bad for peds. Are these jobs easy to come by? Northern California seems like a cool place to live.
 

Ladholyman

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Hmm that's really not that bad for peds. Are these jobs easy to come by? Northern California seems like a cool place to live.
With all the COVID-19 stuff going on its tough to find an open position. Go on their website and call the recruiting department directly for best options.
 

hlancaster

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About 180k starting salary for 0.8 FTE in Kaiser Permanente in Northern California as outpatient pediatrician. Over 200k for 1.0 FTE.
How many days per week is 1.0 FTE for NorCal KP? Thank you for sharing your experience by the way!
 
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Jester4321

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Hmm that's really not that bad for peds. Are these jobs easy to come by? Northern California seems like a cool place to live.
Cali has crazy state income tax though so have to keep that into consoderation
 

Ladholyman

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Sorry just to clarify, does this mean 4/5 full days of clinic? Or does this include things like "administrative" time or whatnot?
It's full days in clinic. Admin time is separate. However each Kaiser site calculates the clinic time versus Admin time a bit differently.
 
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