msar question

[swamprat]

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In the book, where does it give info about if a school only accepts in state? Do u have to assume they do if it says 0 out of however many applied that were non-residents? What if they accepted liek 3 outa alot? Also, they give median mcat scores and a shaded bar reprenting the schools accepted score range from 10-90th percentile? Can you explain what that exactly means and how you can compare it to your score? Thanks!

 

[236116]

It says something like that, yeah.

 

[chief illiniwek]

In the book, where does it give info about if a school only accepts in state? Do u have to assume they do if it says 0 out of however many applied that were non-residents? What if they accepted liek 3 outa alot? Also, they give median mcat scores and a shaded bar reprenting the schools accepted score range from 10-90th percentile? Can you explain what that exactly means and how you can compare it to your score? Thanks!

if they accepted zero OOS applicants, don't waste your time applying (unless of course you happen to live in that state). if accepted 3 out of thousands, that means they are willing to accept OOS applicants, but only if they are outstanding applicants - unless you are head and shoulders above the thousands of other pre-meds, dont waste your time applying there.

i haven't seen it firsthand, but im assuming the MCAT score thing you are referring to is like a box plot. the 10-90th percentile numbers just tell you what scores they typically accept (there are outliers, of course. but with this they seem to be indicating if you would be an outlier, you probably won't fit in their program in some way). they keep the range so big so they get alot of applications...

 

[TMP-SMX]

Don't even bother to a single state school outside your state. (Unless of course you have a compelling reason to do so and you put it on your secondary application). Even then you have to be a strong student. It is a waste of secondary app and primary app money. You can find more than 20 schools in-state and private to apply to. (Not that I recommend you apply to so many). Not to mention tuition is always crappy OOS. Only time I would recommend it is if your state has some program with a school in another state or if you are from Canada where I know at least Wayne State counts you as OOS and not an international student.

FYI I like the username. 😉

 

[Appless]

Don't even bother to a single state school outside your state. (Unless of course you have a compelling reason to do so and you put it on your secondary application). Even then you have to be a strong student. It is a waste of secondary app and primary app money. You can find more than 20 schools in-state and private to apply to. (Not that I recommend you apply to so many). Not to mention tuition is always crappy OOS. Only time I would recommend it is if your state has some program with a school in another state or if you are from Canada where I know at least Wayne State counts you as OOS and not an international student.

FYI I like the username. 😉

I wouldnt say dont apply to outside state schools. There are some that still accept a decent number of OOS students. Not all horirbly penalize you for being OSS.

 

[TMP-SMX]

Such as? At best, it is no better than 30% (unless the state is extremely sparse in population). Most places are mandated to not accept more than 20% OOS.

 

[Appless]

Such as? At best, it is no better than 30% (unless the state is extremely sparse in population). Most places are mandated to not accept more than 20% OOS.

UIC interviews and accepts a good number, michigan state, univeristy maryland (to a lesser degree), michigan, SUNY upstate, ohio state, penn state, university of vermont, VCU. Those are the ones Im applying to. While the sunys and maryland do adhere to that 30% rule (though 30% is still not bad). Michigan and the others all accept just as many OOS as in state or at least 50%. In the case of michigan, penn stae, and vermont they take more OOS then IS. Really if you are applying widely to about 30 schools its hard to apply to only private schools, unless you are going to apply to all the ivy schools and such. But if you had the stats for ivys and top schools, you wouldnt be applying to 30 schools anyways.

 

[236116]

UIC interviews and accepts a good number, michigan state, univeristy maryland (to a lesser degree), michigan, SUNY upstate, ohio state, penn state, university of vermont, VCU. Those are the ones Im applying to. While the sunys and maryland do adhere to that 30% rule (though 30% is still not bad). Michigan and the others all accept just as many OOS as in state or at least 50%. In the case of michigan, penn stae, and vermont they take more OOS then IS. Really if you are applying widely to about 30 schools its hard to apply to only private schools, unless you are going to apply to all the ivy schools and such. But if you had the stats for ivys and top schools, you wouldnt be applying to 30 schools anyways.

More like to a negative degree. VCU only does it b/c they have UVA. PSU doesn't like anyone.

And you'd apply to that many schools for any number of reasons, regardless of numbers. And there.are.no.ivy.med.schools.

 

[itsallthesame]

If a school is listed as accepting a small number of out of staters and they have an MSTP program, it's likely that many/most of the out of stater's were MD/PhD because accepting federal funds means they have to consider OOS equally for those spots. Non MSTP MD/PhD programs are also generally more OOS friendly than MD only seats as well.

 

[TMP-SMX]

U of Michigan is screwy and incredibly competitive, but they do obviously you have a better shot getting in if you are IS vs. OOS. The problem is tuition at all of these public schools. Unless they are reasonable for OOS tuition it's not a great option.

Either way you are right that some public schools accept a good number of OOS students, but only about 10 of those are under 75% IS.