My chances for ortho

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I am really interested in ortho but only really decided on it recently. I am wondering what you think my chances are for acceptance this coming cycle? Class rank is #2 out of over 90, NBDE part 1 was 95, some volunteer experience, no dental school research experience.

Thanks!
 
Here's your pat on your back... if you're smart enough to have those numbers you're smart enough to know you're competitive. I call a question like yours "fishing for compliments". Friends don't let friends look pathetic by fishing for compliments, it's just annoying and shows insecurity.
 
Here's your pat on your back... if you're smart enough to have those numbers you're smart enough to know you're competitive. I call a question like yours "fishing for compliments". Friends don't let friends look pathetic by fishing for compliments, it's just annoying and shows insecurity.
...yeah....U r right!Well said!
 
I don't know... I think the class rank may hurt you, right guys? Most people I know who got into ortho were #1 in their respective class. Just my 2 cents.
 
I am really interested in ortho but only really decided on it recently. I am wondering what you think my chances are for acceptance this coming cycle? Class rank is #2 out of over 90, NBDE part 1 was 95, some volunteer experience, no dental school research experience.

Thanks!

What is your GPA?
 
Hey guys ... Is GPA important so much in residency program application?
 
Hey guys ... Is GPA important so much in residency program application?

It's meaningless and too relative depending on the school. Class rank is what matters.
 
Mesiodens,
Great question, I'm surprised this doesn't come up more often on SDN, there must be other people in similar situations.

Don't listen to the others here. You should be fine being #2. #1 is usually better, but some schools like #2 better because #1 is often too much of a cut-throat gunner. Just be glad you're not #3! Make sure you apply to a lot of schools though, just to be sure.

You're hurting on research though. I would recommend you write something up and written up and published before your interviews. I would recommend Cell, Nature, or Science. If you don't think it will get accepted, go for AJO-DO.

Remember, orthodontics is the most common specialty. There are more orthodontists than any other specialty, and it's been around the longest. Plenty of people make it in every year, so don't stress too much.

Good luck!
 
Mesiodens,
Great question, I'm surprised this doesn't come up more often on SDN, there must be other people in similar situations.

Don't listen to the others here. You should be fine being #2. #1 is usually better, but some schools like #2 better because #1 is often too much of a cut-throat gunner. Just be glad you're not #3! Make sure you apply to a lot of schools though, just to be sure.

You're hurting on research though. I would recommend you write something up and written up and published before your interviews. I would recommend Cell, Nature, or Science. If you don't think it will get accepted, go for AJO-DO.

Remember, orthodontics is the most common specialty. There are more orthodontists than any other specialty, and it's been around the longest. Plenty of people make it in every year, so don't stress too much.

Good luck!

no disrespect intended but there are a ton of things i disagree with in this post, but at the same time i'm not sure how serious the post was so maybe my post is off-base... first of all obviously being #2 is amazing and there are only 50 some people in the US with said rank, so there's no doubt that if ortho acceptance was purely based on rank the OP would be sitting pretty. however, i highly doubt that any school would "like #2 better" than #1...i think it's pretty obvious that #1 would pull in more interviews compared to #2, but once you get to the interview i'd say it's a pretty even playing field. i'd say #1-#5/10 in class size of 100 are all pretty solid, so the insinuation that #3 is so much worse than #2 is without grounds.

regarding research, the OP doesn't need to feel like he's in a huge bind and get his/her panties in a bunch. yes, having research will enhance the application, but it's definitely not a prerequisite to matching ortho. if you're not confident in your stats then research would be a good way to pad the app, but i personally think there are too many people that do research purely bc it's part of the ortho game. of course you gotta do what you gotta do, but i'm just personally not a big fan of someone pretending they're super into research if they're really just doing it bc they feel like it's a necessary evil. there are plenty of qualified applicants and plenty of people who match without any research at all. being published is way crazy at this point. if the OP wants to do research, that's great, but there's no reason at all to feel pressured to have to get something published. none at all.

yes, ortho is the most common specialty and yes plenty of people get into it every year, but it's also arguably the most difficult specialty to get into in terms of pure numbers and competition. so, it's not as simple as there are a ton of spots, don't stress too much. with that being said, the OP i would say has an excellent chance as long as he's not overconfident, is normal, and stays humble (as stupid as that may sound).

to OP -- best of luck.
 
Mesiodens,
Great question, I'm surprised this doesn't come up more often on SDN, there must be other people in similar situations.

Don't listen to the others here. You should be fine being #2. #1 is usually better, but some schools like #2 better because #1 is often too much of a cut-throat gunner. Just be glad you're not #3! Make sure you apply to a lot of schools though, just to be sure.

You're hurting on research though. I would recommend you write something up and written up and published before your interviews. I would recommend Cell, Nature, or Science. If you don't think it will get accepted, go for AJO-DO.

Remember, orthodontics is the most common specialty. There are more orthodontists than any other specialty, and it's been around the longest. Plenty of people make it in every year, so don't stress too much.

Good luck!

I don't know about this...I know 2 ortho residency directors whose favorite number is 3. However, one has a favorite color of orange and the other green. If your favorite color is blue then it might be difficult to get in to these programs...
 
Mesiodens,
Great question, I'm surprised this doesn't come up more often on SDN, there must be other people in similar situations.

Don't listen to the others here. You should be fine being #2. #1 is usually better, but some schools like #2 better because #1 is often too much of a cut-throat gunner. Just be glad you're not #3! Make sure you apply to a lot of schools though, just to be sure.

You're hurting on research though. I would recommend you write something up and written up and published before your interviews. I would recommend Cell, Nature, or Science. If you don't think it will get accepted, go for AJO-DO.

Remember, orthodontics is the most common specialty. There are more orthodontists than any other specialty, and it's been around the longest. Plenty of people make it in every year, so don't stress too much.

Good luck!
isn't AJO-DO a peer reviewed journal ?
 
Here's your pat on your back... if you're smart enough to have those numbers you're smart enough to know you're competitive. I call a question like yours "fishing for compliments". Friends don't let friends look pathetic by fishing for compliments, it's just annoying and shows insecurity.


Very well said.
 
Mesiodens,
Great question, I'm surprised this doesn't come up more often on SDN, there must be other people in similar situations.

Don't listen to the others here. You should be fine being #2. #1 is usually better, but some schools like #2 better because #1 is often too much of a cut-throat gunner. Just be glad you're not #3! Make sure you apply to a lot of schools though, just to be sure.

You're hurting on research though. I would recommend you write something up and written up and published before your interviews. I would recommend Cell, Nature, or Science. If you don't think it will get accepted, go for AJO-DO.

Remember, orthodontics is the most common specialty. There are more orthodontists than any other specialty, and it's been around the longest. Plenty of people make it in every year, so don't stress too much.

Good luck!

PEOPLE! This is obviously sarcasm. . .
 
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