My Chances?

[Allopathic2016]

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Hey guys. Newer to SDN. Firstly, my background is in business finance. Looking to do a post-bacc to get my prerequisites under my belt. Excuse my ignorance but how exactly are labs graded? Are they graded completely separate from the lecture? For example, if I take chem I with its accompanying lab, is there one grade for the lecture independent of the lab and vice versa or are they both somehow integrated? I know the lecture is 3 credits and the lab is 1. How do schools view success in a lecture but sub-par performance in a lab, say an A in lecture but a C in a lab course?

My undergrad gpa is a 3.4. I am STRICTLY looking to get into allopathic schools. Do you guys think that with a 3.4 gpa it is even worth spending the money on a post bacc and applying VERY broadly to as many M.D schools that my budget can dictate? I am playing hypothetical here but if I were to do well in a post-bacc say a 3.8-4.0 gpa mixed with some good EC's, would I have a chance at allopathic?

I should also mention that I had severe health issues (Crohn's disease) in my early undergraduate years hence the mediocre gpa of 3.4. My Junior year I found a good treatment regime and came into remission. My Junior and Senior year I received nothing less than an A in 16 classes (which were my hardest courses taken). I am the type of person who will study 24/7 and work their absolute ass off. Do you guys believe in trends? If I can demonstrate extreme success in a post-bacc along with my recent 2 years in undergrad of A's, that will be a pretty lovely upward trend. Do you guys think I have a chance here? (I believe on Amcas there is a section to mark "disadvantaged" does this help (increase the chance of acceptance such as a URM) an individual like me who has suffered from health issues and would it be justifiable to declare myself disadvantaged due to health concerns?)

 

[candbgirl]

Much depends on how you do in the post bac and how you do on the MCAT. It's really impossible to give you much realistic help at this point. There are so many variables. Beside stats there are the ECs. But many schools do reward reinvention so you certainly have a chance. As to the disadvantaged designation I've always heard that it relates to if you grew up as a disadvantaged child. Not sure your health issues would qualify but that might be good for an essay or personal statement. Take your time and do the best you can. Oh and why are you disregarding DO? You need to investigate DO over the next few years. Good luck!

 

[GrapesofRath]

Keep adding A's to your GPA, it can only help. Your chances will be dictated by how you do on the MCAT to a large extent. I'm hardly some expert on when is a good time to checkmark the "disadvantaged" box, but from what I've heard this often discusses circumstances relating to how you were growing up. Regardless, there is plenty of space in secondaries to discuss how you've overcome severe health issues, I wouldn't worry about needing to check mark some box just to draw attention to how you overcame these issues(note emphasis on overcame, not mentioning the issue itself as some sort of excuse/justification for lower performance).

 

[Goro]

Your GPA is 0.3 points below the median for acceptees. You're at circling the drain territory.

Unless you live in a lucky state like TX or LA, I foresee a difficult time, unless you ace MCAT. That might buy you some love, along with some nice ECs. Best to invest in MSAR and target schools whose median scores are closest to your own, AND where you're above the 10th %ile. Pay very careful attention to the Acceptance Information tab.

There are schools that like upward trends and pay more attention to the last 2-3 years.
? If I can demonstrate extreme success in a post-bacc along with my recent 2 years in undergrad of A's, that will be a pretty lovely upward trend. Do you guys think I have a chance here?



Sometimes labs are graded separately IF they're a separate course. If they're integral to a course, then your lab will count like another exam would, although weighted differently.

Your health issues do not make you disadvantaged. That's a childhood economics thing.

Hey guys. Newer to SDN. Firstly, my background is in business finance. Looking to do a post-bacc to get my prerequisites under my belt. Excuse my ignorance but how exactly are labs graded? Are they graded completely separate from the lecture? For example, if I take chem I with its accompanying lab, is there one grade for the lecture independent of the lab and vice versa or are they both somehow integrated? I know the lecture is 3 credits and the lab is 1. How do schools view success in a lecture but sub-par performance in a lab, say an A in lecture but a C in a lab course?

My undergrad gpa is a 3.4. I am STRICTLY looking to get into allopathic schools. Do you guys think that with a 3.4 gpa it is even worth spending the money on a post bacc and applying VERY broadly to as many M.D schools that my budget can dictate? I am playing hypothetical here but if I were to do well in a post-bacc say a 3.8-4.0 gpa mixed with some good EC's, would I have a chance at allopathic?

I should also mention that I had severe health issues (Crohn's disease) in my early undergraduate years hence the mediocre gpa of 3.4. My Junior year I found a good treatment regime and came into remission. My Junior and Senior year I received nothing less than an A in 16 classes (which were my hardest courses taken). I am the type of person who will study 24/7 and work their absolute ass off. Do you guys believe in trends? If I can demonstrate extreme success in a post-bacc along with my recent 2 years in undergrad of A's, that will be a pretty lovely upward trend. Do you guys think I have a chance here? (I believe on Amcas there is a section to mark "disadvantaged" does this help (increase the chance of acceptance such as a URM) an individual like me who has suffered from health issues and would it be justifiable to declare myself disadvantaged due to health concerns?)

 

[sandstorm223]

1) You're not disadvantaged.
2) Go ahead and apply "STRICTLY MD" this cycle, then when you don't get in you can toss your app at a few DO schools too next year.

 

[Allopathic2016]

1) You're not disadvantaged.
2) Go ahead and apply "STRICTLY MD" this cycle, then when you don't get in you can toss your app at a few DO schools too next year.

Thats ignorant to say I wouldnt get in. Gtfo

 

[Mwooster]

My undergrad gpa is a 3.4. I am STRICTLY looking to get into allopathic schools.

a rare SDN poster with subpar stats but STRICTLY gunning for MD

2) Go ahead and apply "STRICTLY MD" this cycle, then when you don't get in you can toss your app at a few DO schools too next year.

Thats ignorant to say I wouldnt get in. Gtfo

this kind of attitude and that GPA of yours will not take you too far in life, especially in medicine

 

[Allopathic2016]

When did he say I wouldnt get in? He used the word "when." "Go ahead and apply MD and WHEN you dont get in go DO." If he didnt mean to imply that I wouldnt get in he would have used the word "if." So thank you very much. No, I just dont need someone playing definites when I have a friend who went MD with a uGPA of 3.2.

 

[Allopathic2016]

a rare SDN poster with subpar stats but STRICTLY gunning for MD





this kind of attitude and that GPA of yours will not take you too far in life, especially in medicine

That's funny, because my GPA is .3 below the national average. My friend got in with a 3.2 and my science gpa is a 3.8. To say it wont get me far is ignorant. Im not saying I would 100% get in but who do you think you are telling me where I will go in my life? What, you think your hot **** just because your in med school (who knows if you even are as this is a website and anyone can put anything they want). Dont need your nagtivity. I provided stats and asked a question. What is this 3rd grade? Lmao

 

[PooshBag]

You came asking for advice. They spoke their advice. Whether you listen or not is up to you. No need to be upset when the advice isn't what you wanted to hear.

 

[Mwooster]

Who said we think we're hots#@$ when we get into med when you're the one who only look for MD behind your name instead of DO.

Don't insult 3rd graders... they spell better than you do.

Savage

 

[PooshBag]

You spelled it nagativity, bro. Come on...

And don't be so upset. You came seeking advice. Why are you upset?

 

[Allopathic2016]

You spelled it nagativity, bro. Come on...

And don't be so upset. You came seeking advice. Why are you upset?

Something called auto-correct. Damn, I spelled "negatively" wrong on student doctor. I feel so stupid lmao. Called a mistype.

 

[PooshBag]

Auto-correct doesn't change a word to its wrong spelling...

 

[Allopathic2016]

Auto-correct doesn't change a word to its wrong spelling...

It is called a mistype "bro."

 

[7331poas]

This guy has to be a troll.

Acting elitist about grammar and sub-sequentially refusing to accept basic statistics.

Just lock the thread.

 

[Allopathic2016]

This guy has to be a troll.

Acting elitist about grammar and sub-sequentially refusing to accept basic statistics.

Just lock the thread.

No troll here. Im done replying you guys can run your mouth all you want. Cya

 

[PooshBag]

You come off as a jerk.

As everyone else has said, your gpa is a bit low to get into just MD. And yea you may have a 3.8 science, but you haven't even taken the science prereqs. In fact, you don't even know how labs are graded. Don't boast your 3.8 science, because it's irrelevant as of now. You have not taken the MCAT either.

You come here asking for your chances and advice, and you talk down everyone and end up self-proclaiming that you will get into MD.

Good luck.

 

[MD2BE92]

Going to throw this out there...if you cannot handle adversity, or a little bit of criticism now, best of luck getting through medical school or residency for that matter.

Maturity goes a long way in this field. Not trying to come off as grandiose or arrogant but I'm just giving you a little bit of insight that would serve anyone well.

Deuces

 

[dwgrubbs1s]

I am currently finishing up my pre-reqs and going to take the MCAT in the summer. I currently have a 3.475 GPA and with a week left of school this semester looks like I will be wrapping up A's in inorganic chemistry, general biology II, and qualitative analysis lab. If that happens it should push me over the 3.5 GPA mark. This is still low for MD but helps and I hope to score A's finishing out my pre reqs and do well on the MCAT. My GPA is low because I screwed off and didn't care about school my first 2.5 years. Went and got a BSN and became an RN. Decided I wanted to shoot for medicine and had to work my ass off. I would love to get into allopathic school but understand that my stats are low. I have no shame in applying DO, as my stats should be more competetive there (hopefully). I will apply to both and if anyone takes me I will go. It's about practicing medicine. Whether your MD or DO doesn't make much of a difference. Sure there are different residencies, etc, but at the end of the day you still practice medicine and can make a decent living. Idk why you wouldn't apply DO also. Everyone has their own preference though.

 

[Allopathic2016]

Going to throw this out there...if you cannot handle adversity, or a little bit of criticism now, best of luck getting through medical school or residency for that matter.

Maturity goes a long way in this field. Not trying to come off as grandiose or arrogant but I'm just giving you a little bit of insight that would serve anyone well.

Deuces

Never said I cant take criticism. I dont like the negativity when someone tells me "when" I dont get in.

 

[Allopathic2016]

You come off as a jerk.

As everyone else has said, your gpa is a bit low to get into just MD. And yea you may have a 3.8 science, but you haven't even taken the science prereqs. In fact, you don't even know how labs are graded. Don't boast your 3.8 science, because it's irrelevant as of now. You have not taken the MCAT either.

You come here asking for your chances and advice, and you talk down everyone and end up self-proclaiming that you will get into MD.

Good luck.

Thanks I have a friend who got in with a 3.2. I have a 3.4 which will be boosted to 3.6 after my post-bacc. Thats called confidence you should get some. Done with this childish arguement. Stop with your negativity. Ill be the one laughing when I get into M.D and prove you a** wrong.

 

[PooshBag]

lol alright bro. You do you.

 

[Mwooster]

That's funny, because my GPA is .3 below the national average.

Finally something we both agree upon. Given the context of this thread and all, your GPA being 0.3 below the national average is kinda funny

Ill be the one laughing when I get into M.D

We will be genuinely happy for you when that day comes, especially when you go down to the Caribbean for the M.D.

 

[PooshBag]

Don't you love that? Entitled and arrogant kids post here for advice. And then when they dont like what they hear (that their chances are dismal for MD), they get defensive and call us out, and proceed to claim they'll be the best of the best. Why did you come here in the first place if you're so sure you'll get into MD?

 

[Allopathic2016]

Finally something we both agree upon. Given the context of this thread and all, your GPA being 0.3 below the national average is kinda funny



We will be genuinely happy for you when that day comes, especially when you go down to the Caribbean for the M.D.

And after a post bacc it will be around a 3.7. Youre playing assumptions. And funny how you have MD on your profile. Anyone can post anything its the internet you little cum ****. Nothing better to do than harrass me and put me down when you have no idea where ill end up. Keep running your mouth

 

[cardzkp]

And after a post bacc it will be around a 3.7. Youre playing assumptions. And funny how you have MD on your profile. Anyone can post anything its the internet you little cum ****. Nothing better to do than harrass me and put me down when you have no idea where ill end up. Keep running your mouth

You're also assuming that you will get a 4.0 during your post-bacc; it works both ways friend.

This was a painful thread to read.

 

[Goro]

being a parent to a 12 year old has long taught me that words are easy, doing is harder.

And after a post bacc it will be around a 3.7. Youre playing assumptions. And funny how you have MD on your profile. Anyone can post anything its the internet you little cum ****. Nothing better to do than harrass me and put me down when you have no idea where ill end up. Keep running your mouth

 

[DoReMiFaSo]

When you get off your egotistical unicorn and step back on Earth you'll recognize that.

I wish I can come up with amazingly descriptive and imaginative sentences like that when I wanna get my point across... "Egotistical unicorn" (cue gif: ooo kill'em) Hat offs!