My first thought when I saw this headline was "Finally!!!"

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I've seen some pretty messed up anti-vaxxer interviews, but that Dr's is the worst one. It's just all the more scary considering his education.
 
IslandStyle808 said:
I really tried not to read the comment section. But it was too late...
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I, too, could not control my curiosity. Their comments have infinitely saddened me. The vaccine "debate" aside, I'm surprised by how many people have no idea what a DO is. Most of my New England compatriots recognize the legitimate training of osteopathic physicians, so I was taken aback by the commenters' misunderstanding.

I know this has been discussed ad nauseam, but it worries me nonetheless.
 
biodome92 said:
I, too, could not control my curiosity. Their comments have infinitely saddened me. The vaccine "debate" aside, I'm surprised by how many people have no idea what a DO is. Most of my New England compatriots recognize the legitimate training of osteopathic physicians, so I was taken aback by the commenters' misunderstanding.

I know this has been discussed ad nauseam, but it worries me nonetheless.
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Yep. It was even worse when they had no idea whether he was a cardiologist or a doctor of osteopathy. There were only a sparse amount of intelligent comments in that section.

The general population are clueless when it comes to reading scientific articles and judging the quality level of them. They cite articles, but they are interpreting them wrong or they don't understand the fallacies in them. I have read on the forums about doctors not getting too involved in the nutrition of patients, because "that is not the job of doctors." However, when you read those comments, it makes you realize, that doctors should make it a part of their jobs. Otherwise, people will take that faulty information and make even more wrong decisions with them.
 
There is a reason some online publications no longer allow comments on their articles. The people most apt to spout garbage - no matter what topic - are propagandists with an agenda or an ax to grind, and low-information trolls who are looking for a fight, not a dialogue.
 
Goro said:
http://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/va...er_investigation_by_arizona_medical_board.php
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"Wolfson, a cardiologist, was interviewed by CNN as the counter-point to a family with a little girl with leukemia who was one of 190 people exposed to measles at an urgent-care facility in Mesa.

He was asked whether he could live with himself if his children, who aren't vaccinated, infected this girl with measles, and it led to a serious illness.

"I could live with myself easily," Wolfson said. "It's an unfortunate thing that people die, but people die. And I'm not going to put my child at risk to save another child."

According to CNN, Wolfson also said it's "very likely that her leukemia is from vaccinations in the first place.""
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Unbelievable that a physician could be so utterly brainwashed by a fringe cause. To0 bad having enough intelligence to make it through medical school doesn't make you immune to this kind of shameful trash. I sure hope this monster ends up being held accountable for these beliefs by the medical board. If not, then maybe he'll be held accountable by God someday...because these statements are truly sickening.
 
costales said:
There is a reason some online publications no longer allow comments on their articles. The people most apt to spout garbage - no matter what topic - are propagandists with an agenda or an ax to grind, and low-information trolls who are looking for a fight, not a dialogue.
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While I'm all for free speech, part of me wishes every news site would stop allowing comments...I think I kill a couple brain cells every time I accidentally stumble down to the end of an article these days...
 
costales said:
There is a reason some online publications no longer allow comments on their articles. The people most apt to spout garbage - no matter what topic - are propagandists with an agenda or an ax to grind, and low-information trolls who are looking for a fight, not a dialogue.
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Another large reason was because of spam commenters and advertisements. Comments sections in general did have moderators for most news sites, they would get rid of any profanity and certain troll comments. It wasn't enough of a reason to discontinue the comment sections all together, until spam comments kept on showing up on their websites at an uncontrollable rate.

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Just when you think the concept of a DO is becoming more common knowledge, along comes this anti-vax ********* (insert obscene yet accurate description of him here) to ruin things for the rest of us
 
I'm actually doing a poster type thing for my cell bio class on vaccines and children. Maybe I should toss this nut in there and see if less people at my school apply D.O. helping me😉 /jk totally would not do
 
*sigh* like many others here....I vowed not to read the comments section, then I did....

:boom:
 
Man this Georgic person is just SPAMMING the hell out of the comments section...I know, I shouldn't be reading the comments section at all because all it does is infuriate me, but seriously...
 
"I could live with myself easily,"
Could I cope? Sure...but would I feel bad if my child with flu infects a child with leukemia...and that child dies? I would feel bad. I don't know if I would feel at fault...but I would still feel bad for the loss of life and even more so, parents losing a child. This physician seems very detached from human emotion...which is sad.

"It's an unfortunate thing that people die, but people die.
Yes...people do die. Not going to argue with you there.

"And I'm not going to put my child at risk to save another child."
I honestly don't blame him for trying to protect his own child over someone else's...even though my opinion differs greatly about the "risk" of vaccines.

"very likely that her leukemia is from vaccinations in the first place.""

Is there a possibility that we will find out years from now that live vaccines could cause certain types of cancer? Yes. More and more is being discovered about the role of viruses in cancer development. But the issue I have is his statement that it was "very likely" that leukemia is due from vaccines. He is speaking from a factual prospective and not theoretical perspective. You absolutely can't do that without any objective evidence. The other issue that I have is that it is incredibly insensitive to make such a statement. You are essentially telling parents who vaccinated their children and the child goes on to get cancer...that their choice caused their child's cancer. It's pure hatred. There is lots of hatred and extremism on both sides of the argument in my opinion.
 
I'm just going to leave this little gem here to help counteract the effect of reading the comments section:
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From the comments on that article:

"You need to educate yourself and stop blindly following the leaders who are make billions of dollars on the vaccines that they make."
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Of course what he really means is "you need to educate yourself by reading mommy blogs and Mercola.com instead of reading text books and watching lectures given by PhDs."
 
IslandStyle808 said:
Yep. It was even worse when they had no idea whether he was a cardiologist or a doctor of osteopathy. There were only a sparse amount of intelligent comments in that section.

The general population are clueless when it comes to reading scientific articles and judging the quality level of them. They cite articles, but they are interpreting them wrong or they don't understand the fallacies in them. I have read on the forums about doctors not getting too involved in the nutrition of patients, because "that is not the job of doctors." However, when you read those comments, it makes you realize, that doctors should make it a part of their jobs. Otherwise, people will take that faulty information and make even more wrong decisions with them.
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Often, doctors don't get too involved in the nutrition of their patients, a cursory overview of eating habits if anything. In the hospital, it's more ordering the "proper diet" based on the patient's disease (i.e. low sodium, etc.). A big part of this is because many medical schools lack proper nutrition education. It's usually a very small component of the curriculum if it's present at all. Therefore, it can be hard to offer solid advice on nutrition because unless someone goes above and beyond by learning about it on his or her own time, it's a subject of ignorance. In the end, that usually means the physician doesn't talk about nutrition, refers the patient to a nutritionist/dietician, or offers superficial or misinformed advice.
 
j4pac said:
"very likely that her leukemia is from vaccinations in the first place.""
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The fact that this came out of any kind of legitimate healthcare provider's mouth makes me sick to my stomach. I'm a huge advocate for free speech, but I sincerely hope AZ drops a real life banhammer on this guys a$$. He doesn't deserve to practice any kind of medicine making uneducated blanket statements like that.
 
Stagg737 said:
The fact that this came out of any kind of legitimate healthcare provider's mouth makes me sick to my stomach. I'm a huge advocate for free speech, but I sincerely hope AZ drops a real life banhammer on this guys a$$. He doesn't deserve to practice any kind of medicine making uneducated blanket statements like that.
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He's just as bad as Wakefield if he's going to start making claims like that.
 
NurWollen said:
People who troll DO's in internet article comments sections are probably mostly high school seniors who think they're going to get through undergrad with a 4.0 with a 37 on the MCAT and a free ride to UCSF, but who in reality probably won't still be premeds after Gen Chem I.
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But they'll be on SDN asking for advice on which DO schools they should eliminate from their list.
 
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