My NBDE Part I Study Log

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Yup! For example, if I get a 90, then EyeCandy, Supernumerary, Shilpi, and Brocnizer2007 will all receive the packet via mail.
 
Hey There !!

I called the Joint Commission just now and I was told that the results were mailed out yesterday !!

Cheers,
Cherry.
 
Gavin:

I haven't heard anything about computer testing holding results back until the end of September until today when I read it on SDN in the NBDE Results thread.

I just talked to my Academic Associate Dean yesterday and he's also under the impression that we'll (the school and individual candidates) receive the scores next week!

Perhaps the ADA is saying that for those candidate who partake in the pilot computer testing will receive their results in the end of September?

Who knows! I'm just getting very impatient with this whole entire waiting process! It's truly worse then waiting for acceptance letters and interview invites!

Cherry: I truly hope that what you said holds true. I just want to know how well or how bad I did in July!
 
good luck andy! (sorry i don't have a prediction...but i hope you do great)... 🙂
 
Anatomical Sciences: 92
Biochemistry/Physiology: 89
Microbiology/Pathology: 89
Dental Anatomy: 88

Overall Average: 90

I found out today from my school, I didn't recieve it in the mail yet! As soon as I do, I will scan it and post it so you guys can verify and see what the score report looks like.

Everyone in my class did well, no one I talked to failed. I don't have the class average yet, but I will post it as soon as I find out what our group average is. The highest score from our group was a 97 and there were 7 of us (out of 35 people) that I know that got in the 90s.

I am so pumped!!!
 
Congratulations

Your hard work payed off. You deserve it man. We're all proud of ya !!
 
Now you can sleep well Yah-E , that is a very good mark and as I recall it is excatly what you were realy aming at....I do hope I achieve the same mark this coming december...

Congratulation ..:clap:
 
Gavin:

To be honest with you as well, I thought I did better too, especially on the Anatomical Sciences and Biochem/Physio sections. I knew that Dental Anatomy would be my lowest section walking out of the exam on July 14th and now it is.

I should've spent more time studying on that section, I only spend two days total on Dental Anatomy (I was way to confident that I could do well). I guess it really showed that if you don't study enough and you only have one year of dental school under your belt, you might not do as well! So spend more time on Occlusion topics. Regardless, I really think the ADA curved the heck out of the Dental Anatomy section if I still manage to earn a 88.

Non-productive time, I don't believe so, but I only studied for a month-and-a-half (6 weeks). Look at Yellowman, he studied for 6 months! I strongly believe that the more time you study, your chances of earning a higher score will be greater.

Even with all that said, Part 1 is not an easy exam. You can study, study, study and study, but the exam can totally test you on something completely different topics from what you had studied on. The more you know the more you'll answer correctly.

If you ask me why do I think that my scores aren't as high as we had expected if I studied so thoroughly, then I would have to say I didn't know as much as I had thought I did. I know if I would've answered another 2 or 3 question correctly, my overall average would've gone up another point or two.

Hey, my score is not a 91 or a 95, but I got a 90 baby!! I reached my goal. I'm officially declaring a Pre-Oral Surgery status. I emailed and send a copy of my NBDE Part 1 scores to all the OMS directors that I've been in contact with today and several of them have already replied back and congratulated me. I'm just so very glad that this NBDE Part 1 is behind me and I can concentrate on increasing my class rank and cumulative GPA at this point.

Every second I spent reading for NBDE Part 1 studies was worth it and productive in my opinion! My best equals a 90, I guess....
 
My score report: sorry it's not that clear, but SDN only allows images to be uploaded that are 400 X 400
 

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congrats Andy!!!

Keep up the good work and you will be an oral surgeon before you know it.


later, bryan
 
BTW, Let me know what your class average (for those who took it) was, or a good guestimate if you don't mind!

My faculty is waiting to see how you guys did before committing us to taking it next July.
 
Originally posted by Yah-E
EyeCandy, Supernumerary, Shilpi, and Brocnizer2007:

Email me your mailing address so I can mail you the prize you all won.

Thanks everyone for your support and encouragment. I still have a pretty long road ahead of me. NBDE Part 1 is only one (major) step in the whole journey.

😀

I wonder how Doggy did on his Part 1?



Yah-E.........

I have to give it to you.......I think you beat me this time....... 🙁 Beat me this time at making yourself look like a fool! 😀

This was what you had written to me in an earlier post:
"I stand by my word, if any advantage to go to your school, then it would be the Ivy school name. Besides, if you claim that your basic science course experiences are so much more thorough than a lot of other dental schools and therefore an "advantage", then you maybe you should put it where your mouth is? You and I will use our NBDE Part I scores to be judge? Based on your statements and beliefs about Columbia, you should score higher than me in 3 out of 4 sections (Biochem/Physio, Micro/Patho, and Anatomical Sciences)?"


For the record.........you were the one who challenged me, not the way around, so it's not like I purposely picked on you. I believe I've beaten you in all 4 sections.

Anatomy: 98
Biochem: 96
Microbio: 97
Dental Anatomy: 99

Average: 98

If you are still in doubt, I am more than happy to scan my test result and post it in this forum. Good luck with your studies.
 
Damn...Doggie...You are DA MAN! :clap: Yes, I would like to see the scan to verify! Wow!!
 
I realize that there is no way i can put my real name on it......I guess you'll just have to take my word for it. However, I can attest to you that they are my official scores. Cheers.
 

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I gotta hand it to ya, Doggie! Those numbers are OUT OF THIS WORLD! You beat me fair and square. I still believe that it's not the school that got you those scores, it's you that got those scores.

Congrats to you as well.....why don't you contribute to this thread when you have time:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=79827
 
Yah-e,

I think you did pretty well considering occlusion is a very difficult section and at marquette we had 2 course in second year and one in first year. Also, Pathology IMO was the most difficult section and your class had to self teach it.

In my class the highest was a 93 and the year after us, there were 2 96's and a 95. The 95 didn't get into ortho, one of the 96's is in OMS in Miami.
 
Doggie, when does columbia start pre-clinic. When is your first operative course? When do you start seeing patients? By the way do you know a Pejmon Amini. I was in physiology with him at UWO in london, ontario.

Yah-e - same questions?
 
Dr. Rob:

Operative course was 2nd semester 1st year

We're seeing patients right now in Perio Clinic doing S&RP and Prophies (1st semester 2nd year)

I do not know Pejmon Amini! :laugh:
 
Holy cow !

Your folks all did good ! Congratulation to all. Please come back to SDN after your graduation. We,juniors, will need your advice on our board's studying. If I can get accepted to any dental school, I will challenge myself to beat that score of 98. I know SDN brought so much lucks and challeges to me past year.
 
Congrats gentlemen!!!!!!!!!!!

You all did very well. That's awesome.
 
"I stand by my word, if any advantage to go to your school, then it would be the Ivy school name. Besides, if you claim that your basic science course experiences are so much more thorough than a lot of other dental schools and therefore an "advantage", then you maybe you should put it where your mouth is? You and I will use our NBDE Part I scores to be judge? Based on your statements and beliefs about Columbia, you should score higher than me in 3 out of 4 sections (Biochem/Physio, Micro/Patho, and Anatomical Sciences)?"

scores and education have nothing to do with being ivy league are not. good schools are just good schools.
the science courses at good schools are not in the same league as those at other schools. the biggest difference between schools that traditionally do very well and those who are average is not only do they get better scores, but they do it in much less time! I'm an average student at my school and our school average was a 90.8 (hint it's NOT an ivy school).


68 hours of studying 10 days before exam = 92 overall

study material.....look at decks 2x (didn't memorize all the stuff on the back) and do all the released exam 2x.
 
Originally posted by job314
"I stand by my word, if any advantage to go to your school, then it would be the Ivy school name. Besides, if you claim that your basic science course experiences are so much more thorough than a lot of other dental schools and therefore an "advantage", then you maybe you should put it where your mouth is? You and I will use our NBDE Part I scores to be judge? Based on your statements and beliefs about Columbia, you should score higher than me in 3 out of 4 sections (Biochem/Physio, Micro/Patho, and Anatomical Sciences)?"

scores and education have nothing to do with being ivy league are not. good schools are just good schools.
the science courses at good schools are not in the same league as those at other schools. the biggest difference between schools that traditionally do very well and those who are average is not only do they get better scores, but they do it in much less time! I'm an average student at my school and our school average was a 90.8 (hint it's NOT an ivy school).


68 hours of studying 10 days before exam = 92 overall

study material.....look at decks 2x (didn't memorize all the stuff on the back) and do all the released exam 2x.


Just curious, what school do you go to?
 
Remember everyone:

Everyone of us is different. For some, only little studying can do them wonders and as for me on the other hand, I studied my @ss off for 300+ hours and I only scored a 90.

Maybe I'm dumber or something, but I had to worked for my 90 and I'm proud of my achievement. If I had to do it all over again, I would again study 300+ hours.

For me, since I'm aiming to specialize, I will not chance it. I will not rely on my School's name, my school's basic science curriculum, and/or connection from faculty and dental fraternity for my future success. My destiny and future is in my own hands. I make it on my own or break it on my own.

For those of you that received a score of 90 or above and didn't studied much, good for you and I'm glad for you (job well done). I would recommend studying and studying hard to everyone that is about to embark on the NBDE Part 1 examination.

Check this out:

2.4 GPA Undergrad => 17/24 DAT => 3.3 GPA Post-bac => 20/23 2nd DAT => 3.56 GPA dental => 90 NBDE Part 1

Quite a journey so far, huh? 😀
 
Yah-E,

Congrats on the scores! What is the standard score that one needs to attain in order to be a competitive candidate for a specialty school? GPA?
 
I hardly think your dumb - isn't a 90 still in the top 10 % of all test takers?

The school you go to doesn't mean a thing. Marquette's average when I took the test was 84.6 - below the national average. I scored a 92 because I am a good multiple choice test taker and I think my undergraduate background in physiology helped out a lot. I also specifically remember a question in the biochem section about buffers! How relevant is that!

I think there is too much hype about this test. It may be important for specializing, but there are other factors. I have a friend in OMS with an 88 part 1 and I also know someone with a 95 part 1 that didn't get accepted to ortho.

When it comes down to it, how much of the information do you remember? Some of the schools who do well on this test - sacrafice clinical skills. I'm not 100% certain, but I heard columbia doesn't have any pre-clinic operative in their first year. Similarly, I heard that they don't start seeing patients until 2nd semester junior year. I'm not sure if this is true, but we started prophies sophmore year and started all clinical procedures the summer before junior year while we were studying for part 1 - with no time off!
 
Yah-E,

I just want to say that I'm very proud of you! Yes, people might come here and brag how they only study this much time and still beat you and such, but remember that success cannot be judged solely by the final outcome, but by the journey that took you to that destination. Your goal was a 90, and you definitely achieved that. I find no shame in studying 300 hours as oppose to 78 to reach that goal! Be proud for it, because I think I speak for many that you have made a big a difference in many of us here. You have motivated us and honestly, I won't be as excited to start in a week if it weren't for you and SDN.

Keep in mind, you took the boards after your first year. That in itself is quite a feat! Again, congratulations, and with your motivation and determination you will be one heck of an oral surgeon. I'll send my kids to you for oral surgery!!!🙂
 
Originally posted by DrRob
Doggie, when does columbia start pre-clinic. When is your first operative course? When do you start seeing patients? By the way do you know a Pejmon Amini. I was in physiology with him at UWO in london, ontario.

Yah-e - same questions?


Yeah........Pejmon is a cool guy. We just had a "Halo" (from xbox) fest a few weeks ago......

ok....to be serious now.... Pre-clinic for my class started in the second semester of my 1st year. I am not sure about the incoming class, but it should be the same as my class......altho they are shifting more and more pre-clinic courses into the 2nd semester of 1st year. We started off with prostho in the 1st year and operative in the 2nd year. Ortho and Endo started 2-3 months before the boards and didnt end till after the boards..........now how whacked was that!?@#?

I start Clinic tomorrow, which means I will encounter my first patient (btw, I am going to be a junior).... I've already went through some rotations and an externship in SF, so I hope my actual patients are as easy to manage as the ones I've encountered thus far. oh well........guess i'll find out tomorrow.
 
good job guys 🙂

preclinic starts 1st year 🙂 at columbia 🙂

Doggie...i'm sure you're going to get the CADA scholarship...congrats on that too 🙂
 
Yah-E, best of luck as a pre-oral surgeon 🙂

Let me know when you come to my part of the town to do an externship.
 
"Maybe I'm dumber or something, but I had to worked for my 90 and I'm proud of my achievement. If I had to do it all over again, I would again study 300+ hours.'

you missed the point. you originally challenged doggie that your school doesn't make a difference. it does! some schools manufacture people who always score 90+ averages on the boards. it it not that they are smarter, i have people at my school who were lucky to get into dental school. the real difference is in the education which is dependent on your school. the level that the science courses are taught at is so far above the boards that it makes studying for the boards just an exercise in memorizing the decks and the previously released exams. from day 1 the administration at my school does everything but guarantee in writing a 90+ on part 1. did some people not get a 90+, sure, but the average is still 90+.

you should be proud of your accomplishment and not the least bit ashamed about studying 300 hours. 90+ for anyone is a very nice accomplishment!
 
Oh, this has nothing to do with that Dog from Columbia....he won fair and square. My point was simply that different people study and retain info in their brains differently. Some may only require so much time to do well on exams and some like myself require a lot more time to to learn the same amount of materials.

I am not at all ashamed of my score believe me or being down on myself! Oh, when I said that "I must be dumber or something", I was just dramatizing or exaggerating. I never once insinuated that any of you called me "dumb".

Eight:

You send me your children, I'll give you a Special SDN discount of 15% off! :laugh:

Standford,

Nice to see you on here again, it's been almost a year! I'll definitely let you know if I ever swing by your neighborhood for anything.

Nicolas:

Anything can happen and you will always hear stories about "oh, I know this person got in with this GPA and board scores...", but I feel that if you maintain a 3.5 in dental school and get at least a 90, you'll be in good shoes. You brought up a topic that there is no correct answer to. We have debated about that topic on this SDN thing over and over. Every specialty is different and they all look for different things. Some specialties are more competitive than others. A rule of thumb is "the higher the numbers you have, the better".

Job:

What school do you go to? I see that you're a recent new member of SDN, welcome and congrats on your job well done on the Part 1. It feels good to conclude that chapter, doesn't it?
 
Wow Andy...Great job:clap:

Time for me to cut and paste your recomendations into a word document so I could have a reference point in two years.
 
Congratulation ....

But could you tell us what material(s) did you use for you dental anatomy ..man 99 that is a dream hard to catch for the unfortunate studnets......

and any one who passed Dental anatomy with flying card do tell us the "less fortunate".. what material did they used....


:clap: :clap: :clap:
 
Yah-E

I would like to say this...I have been watching this forum for months and would first like to congratulate you on your accomplishments. I think those who read these posts should get some things clear:

1. Everyone is different in their study methods and intelligence so why compare yourselves?

2. Nobody gains from bragging.

3. Most dental students taking the PT. I boards should be prepared...reviewing the decks and old exams is enough for most (spending hundreds of dollars on materials is definitely the prerogative of the student)

4. Its over....move on, we all should congratulate one another, we're all going to be "colleagues" very soon!

By the way, I studied for about 120 hours total and scored an 88-
Anat.-84
Bioch-89
Micro-90
Dent.-88

Good Luck to all who specialize.....See ya in 2005!
-Sabretooth
 
Originally posted by HIM0098
Congratulation ....

But could you tell us what material(s) did you use for you dental anatomy ..man 99 that is a dream hard to catch for the unfortunate studnets......

and any one who passed Dental anatomy with flying card do tell us the "less fortunate".. what material did they used....


:clap: :clap: :clap:



I honestly think there was a fat curve on the dental anatomy section. Strange, but I have never scored anything higher than a 93-94 on the practice tests. 🙄

Here's what I used to study for dental anatomy.
1) Decks.....know every freaking minute detail pertaining to morphology and occlussion.
2) diagrams of each tooth (primary and permanent)........look at it and make notes
3) pick up any dental anatomy book and read up on condylar shifts, bennet's movement, and various trace diagrams.
 
Hey All,
I have a close friend who is a third year at Harvard. They got their scores on Monday - the average, I repeat AVERAGE, NBDE Part 1 score was 95.

I was bowled over to say the very least...

I suppose there is something to be said for the Harvard Medical School education these kids go through...Just my 0.02.

AjM
 
Originally posted by ajmacgregor
Hey All,
I have a close friend who is a third year at Harvard. They got their scores on Monday - the average, I repeat AVERAGE, NBDE Part 1 score was 95.

I was bowled over to say the very least...

I suppose there is something to be said for the Harvard Medical School education these kids go through...Just my 0.02.

AjM
have you given any thought as to a possible correlation between board scores and how competitive it is to get into a certain school, instead of just the "education."
 
Thanks a million for chipping in man...I truly appreciated 😀
 
if your average is around 85 but have failed 1 section of the test, do you have to retake an entire test ?
 
nope, just that section you've failed.
 
i think u can retake just that subject which is why they have this thing where they let u pay for only one subject? not sure tho. the info booklet that ada provides with the appli should have that info.
 
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