My story/ advice/ help (Edited)

[estefancillo07]

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Hello everyone

I learned about this site and made an account, as i feel that I’m out of options. I’ll try to keep it brief, but I’ll be more than happy to provide details if you PM me.

I was able to be in an anesthesia residency a few years ago. Which has been my childhood dream. Since i started, the program had been through 3 PDs. I had asked for fmla leave, as my mom was diagnosed with a uterine sarcoma, and was helping her post surgery.

Then upon my return, i was terminated. I wasn’t given any reason at first. I had all positive evals, didn’t have any personal issues with anyone, and wasn’t even given due process. Then a year later, the EEOC sent me a paper saying that one of the reasons i was terminated was because i failed to verbally repeat what an attending said, which of course wasn’t on purpose. And it never happened again. I later find out that one of the residents had been held back for 2 years for poor performance, and I thought that the program just wanted to give my position to him. And later in a deposition with that PD, She said I never should’ve been hired because anesthesia residents should all look like tom brady (her words exact). I had contacted the ACGME, who told me that they can’t help me because they dont handle resident/program issues.

So, I recently started a job at Target, because i haven’t found any work without being board certified. And if i didn’t get that job, me and my mom wouldn’t have been able to afford our electric bill. We are not wealthy at all.

Everything that Ive said, i have evidence for. But a few PDs that I’ve messaged have told me that no one cares about the evidence, that I’m just seen as a problem no matter what.

I’ve been told that I’m an incredibly good candidate. And I had plenty of interviews at first. My only problem was that a temporary PD didn’t like me.

I haven’t been able to get shadowing opportunities, and all the friends that Ive met during my career have all turned their back on me. Ive also applied to ER and 1 year programs with no luck, even though I’m not too passionate about those.

If anyone has advice or know of a place that would allow me to shadow please PM me. Or if you need any more info, please PM me. There has to be someone in the country willing to give me a chance to hear me out.

Thanks

EDIT:
Thanks for replying everyone, but it really just looks like I’m screwed 🤦‍♂
I did work as anesthesia house staff in nyc for a year. Basically doing the same work as a crna. I never had any problems with anyone, did my job well, and liked working there. I left because the program shut down.
I wish more people would put themselves in my shoes. When I was terminated, I was just given one sheet of paper, stating poor performance. But none of my evals said that. And i had to wait a year, for a paper from the eeoc to find out the specific reasons. It is an absurd situation that happened to me. I wasn’t even given due process. The reason all this sounds crazy, is because it is. I went to a toxic program and they did whatever they wanted. It’s a long story, so if anyone is interested, PM me. But i don’t think I’m going to get much help here. Thanks anyway

Edit #2: on the tom brady thing, the temp PD did say that in the deposition. From the first day i worked with her, she always told me i should switch specialaties because i didn’t look like an anesthesiologist. I just acted normal and didn’t mind it. Then she became PD and terminated me. She’s left to work at another hospital a couple of months after terminating me, so she didn’t care at that point.

 

[aneftp]

So you left during your first year of anesthesia residency? You didn’t even complete one year?

It’s a long uphill climb
Are you American lcme grad? Do grad? Fmg grad?

How long ago was this?

 

[UscGhost]

Hello everyone

I learned about this site and made an account, as i feel that I’m out of options. I’ll try to keep it brief, but I’ll be more than happy to provide details if you PM me.

I was able to be in an anesthesia residency a few years ago. Which has been my childhood dream. Since i started, the program had been through 3 PDs. I had asked for fmla leave, as my mom was diagnosed with a uterine sarcoma, and was helping her post surgery.

Then upon my return, i was terminated. I wasn’t given any reason at first. I had all positive evals, didn’t have any personal issues with anyone, and wasn’t even given due process. Then a year later, the EEOC sent me a paper saying that one of the reasons i was terminated was because i failed to verbally repeat what an attending said, which of course wasn’t on purpose. And it never happened again. I later find out that one of the residents had been held back for 2 years for poor performance, and I thought that the program just wanted to give my position to him. And later in a deposition with that PD, She said I never should’ve been hired because anesthesia residents should all look like tom brady (her words exact). I had contacted the ACGME, who told me that they can’t help me because they dont handle resident/program issues.

So, I recently started a job at Target, because i haven’t found any work without being board certified. And if i didn’t get that job, me and my mom wouldn’t have been able to afford our electric bill. We are not wealthy at all.

Everything that Ive said, i have evidence for. But a few PDs that I’ve messaged have told me that no one cares about the evidence, that I’m just seen as a problem no matter what.

I’ve been told that I’m an incredibly good candidate. And I had plenty of interviews at first. My only problem was that a temporary PD didn’t like me.

I haven’t been able to get shadowing opportunities, and all the friends that Ive met during my career have all turned their back on me. Ive also applied to ER and 1 year programs with no luck, even though I’m not too passionate about those.

If anyone has advice or know of a place that would allow me to shadow please PM me. Or if you need any more info, please PM me. There has to be someone in the country willing to give me a chance to hear me out.

Thanks

Well.

Ill preface this by saying that i have zero information about the details.

However, in my experience, it takes a lot to fire a resident. It looks bad for the program, deprives them of a body to cover cases, there is legal liability, etc
So the majority of the time, programs will go to significant lengths to push that resident through to completion.

If they held back a resident for poor performance, then why wouldn't they just hold you back too?

So, my suspicion would be that either they had performance/personality concerns (most likely) or that you had a conflict with someone who was very influential in the program (less plausible, not impossible, but less likely if the PD changed multiple times, unless you had a direct conflict with the chairman)

When you asked for fmla leave. How long was it. Was it approved?

Unfortunately, if you are let go from a program, and then sued the program (you mentioned a deposition) then there is very little reason for an anesthesia program to take a flyer on you, as anesthesia is a competitive specialty.

Your best option would be to target a field (family medicine, etc) at a program that is unable to fill their spots.

 

[dabears505]

2nd that. You need to try family and apply broadly.

 

[UscGhost]

2nd that. You need to try family and apply broadly.

Yup.

Without a residency, MD is useless. Unless you go the business route, get your MBA, etc

But most realistic is to get a family medicine residency and craft something out of that. Open a med spa, wellness, etc

 

[aneftp]

Yup.

Without a residency, MD is useless. Unless you go the business route, get your MBA, etc

But most realistic is to get a family medicine residency and craft something out of that. Open a med spa, wellness, etc

The lady who didn’t finish residency at Stanford ent. She quit 3-4 months before

the current surgeon didn’t finish her residency But she did have active medical license.

You need to finish at least 1 year of residency in all states to have a full medical license. Some states may require 2 years of residency. I haven’t checked in years.

So it’s not finishing residency that’s important. It’s getting at least one year of residency in.

 

[UscGhost]

The lady who didn’t finish residency at Stanford ent. She quit 3-4 months before

the current surgeon didn’t finish her residency But she did have active medical license.

You need to finish at least 1 year of residency in all states to have a full medical license. Some states may require 2 years of residency. I haven’t checked in years.

So it’s not finishing residency that’s important. It’s getting at least one year of residency in.

Yea, could probably do a med spa with just a medical license?

Bit of a risk to take if you get into a FM program, and bail after 1 year because you have a license. Might as well do all 3 years for job security

 

[AnonymousPD]

OP,

There is much here that doesn't add up. You say that you returned from an approved FMLA and were simply terminated without warning? As was mentioned by @UscGhost, there are a lot of hurdles to jump through in order to terminate a resident. You are saying that there was never a performance improvement plan? No corrective actions? Not even any sort of written feedback about program concerns? Just fired because a program director who wants models in her program found out that one time you didn't verbally acknowledge something someone said to you and used that as a way to rectify her predecessor's poor judgement in attractiveness?

I am terribly sorry that you are in the position that you are in and that you feel that your dream is slipping away. But even if someone wants to help you, they won't until they get the full story.

 

[CubsDynasty]

Every residency I’ve been involved with has gone above and beyond to try to keep residents in the program. There were times I’ve even begged to let residents go and nothing was done, just a few more years of terribly subpar care and they graduated. Firing a resident is absolutely last resort.

 

[UscGhost]

Every residency I’ve been involved with has gone above and beyond to try to keep residents in the program. There were times I’ve even begged to let residents go and nothing was done, just a few more years of terribly subpar care and they graduated. Firing a resident is absolutely last resort.

Same here

 

[Coffee PRN]

look at breaking into consulting with an MD. I believe it gives you a leg up.

 

[caligas]

Intern year, get license and learn to do Botox

 

[pgg]

Hello everyone

I learned about this site and made an account, as i feel that I’m out of options. I’ll try to keep it brief, but I’ll be more than happy to provide details if you PM me.

I was able to be in an anesthesia residency a few years ago. Which has been my childhood dream. Since i started, the program had been through 3 PDs. I had asked for fmla leave, as my mom was diagnosed with a uterine sarcoma, and was helping her post surgery.

Then upon my return, i was terminated. I wasn’t given any reason at first. I had all positive evals, didn’t have any personal issues with anyone, and wasn’t even given due process. Then a year later, the EEOC sent me a paper saying that one of the reasons i was terminated was because i failed to verbally repeat what an attending said, which of course wasn’t on purpose. And it never happened again. I later find out that one of the residents had been held back for 2 years for poor performance, and I thought that the program just wanted to give my position to him. And later in a deposition with that PD, She said I never should’ve been hired because anesthesia residents should all look like tom brady (her words exact). I had contacted the ACGME, who told me that they can’t help me because they dont handle resident/program issues.

So, I recently started a job at Target, because i haven’t found any work without being board certified. And if i didn’t get that job, me and my mom wouldn’t have been able to afford our electric bill. We are not wealthy at all.

Everything that Ive said, i have evidence for. But a few PDs that I’ve messaged have told me that no one cares about the evidence, that I’m just seen as a problem no matter what.

I’ve been told that I’m an incredibly good candidate. And I had plenty of interviews at first. My only problem was that a temporary PD didn’t like me.

I haven’t been able to get shadowing opportunities, and all the friends that Ive met during my career have all turned their back on me. Ive also applied to ER and 1 year programs with no luck, even though I’m not too passionate about those.

If anyone has advice or know of a place that would allow me to shadow please PM me. Or if you need any more info, please PM me. There has to be someone in the country willing to give me a chance to hear me out.

Thanks

Taking all of this at face value -

1) You needed an attorney back when they fired you.

2) This was all several years ago? That gap is going be a problem.

3) What do you mean when you say your friends all turned their backs on you?

It sounds like there's a lot more to what happened. I'm not saying you're lying or leaving things out deliberately, but at a minimum it appears you don't have much insight or understanding of why things happened the way they did.


Going forward - you need to find a residency program, any program, and finish it. Forget what you're "passionate" about. Take anything, anywhere. You are not in a position to be picky. You weren't in a position to be picky when you halfheartedly applied to ER. (Of course they didn't take an unenthusiastic applicant who didn't finish his first residency attempt.)

Graduate. Get a job. THEN maybe start looking at ways to get into a different field.

 

[amyl]

The PD said this about tom Brady-look alikes in a deposition? This is hard to believe.
It’s hard to get rid of a resident and to do so requires a paper trail.
What did you sue them for… wrongful termination? Did you win that lawsuit?

Programs and Pads and doctors talk… six degrees of separation is only two in Anesthesia. The fact is you’re out of anesthesia- period. Anesthesia is competitive - great candidates with no red flags don’t match.
I agree - try to get an IM or family med residency somewhere. That’s your only shot at clinical medicine. Idk if pharmaceutical companies will hire you with no clinical experience.
A few things don’t add up in this story - we need more information. Good luck

 

[PpfSuxTube]

At best, this is very hard to believe.

 

[Crayola227]

OP you might want to see if you can get a mod to move this thread over to general residency forum. I think you might find more help there.

 

[estefancillo07]

So you left during your first year of anesthesia residency? You didn’t even complete one year?

It’s a long uphill climb
Are you American lcme grad? Do grad? Fmg grad?

How long ago was this?

I completed 13 months total. I’m an amg, did my own research, published, 10 percentile step scores.

 

[estefancillo07]

Well.

Ill preface this by saying that i have zero information about the details.

However, in my experience, it takes a lot to fire a resident. It looks bad for the program, deprives them of a body to cover cases, there is legal liability, etc
So the majority of the time, programs will go to significant lengths to push that resident through to completion.

If they held back a resident for poor performance, then why wouldn't they just hold you back too?

So, my suspicion would be that either they had performance/personality concerns (most likely) or that you had a conflict with someone who was very influential in the program (less plausible, not impossible, but less likely if the PD changed multiple times, unless you had a direct conflict with the chairman)

When you asked for fmla leave. How long was it. Was it approved?

Unfortunately, if you are let go from a program, and then sued the program (you mentioned a deposition) then there is very little reason for an anesthesia program to take a flyer on you, as anesthesia is a competitive specialty.

Your best option would be to target a field (family medicine, etc) at a program that is unable to fill their spots.

I’ve been told that it takes alot to fire a resident, but not in my case. I never did an M&M, I had good evals, never was reprimanded for anything, didn’t get due process. I did get approved for FMLA leave and it was for 6 weeks.
I don’t really see any consequences for firing resident. The spot will get filled up in a few days, and even if it looks bad, there are easily hundreds lining up get in. And not even the acgme looks into it.
The only reason I sued the program was because I wasn’t getting any interviews for anything.
Like I said, after a year, the EEOC send me a list of reasons for terminating me, one was the I didn’t confirm an order from an attending, i apologied and never did it again. Another was that I didn’t ask an OB attending if a patient was able to sit down for a spinal, but i did see the patient sitting and asked the patient. Those aren’t reasons to terminate a resident.
That same year, a resident deep extubated someone with severe pulm htn, and she passed away, another resident gave ancef to a patient with allergies, and led to anaphylactic shock, because he didn’t check the record, ect ect.

I have evidence for all of this. And i worked in NYC for a year as an anesthesia house staff, and never had any issues with anyone. And like i said, i have evidence for everything that I’m saying. There are incredibly toxic programs in the nation, so there’s no reason to not to suspect them. The problem is that for some reason people have forgotten to help each other.

 

[kidthor]

the EEOC send me a list of reasons for terminating me, one was the I didn’t confirm an order from an attending,

The EEOC doesn’t just randomly send people termination justification letters… Had you filed a title 9 complaint?

Your story doesn’t add up at all. There’s way more to it which you’d need to acknowledge (to yourself at least).

Probably you’d have the best luck trying to retrain in a different subspecialty.

 

[aneftp]

I’ve been told that it takes alot to fire a resident, but not in my case. I never did an M&M, I had good evals, never was reprimanded for anything, didn’t get due process. I did get approved for FMLA leave and it was for 6 weeks.
I don’t really see any consequences for firing resident. The spot will get filled up in a few days, and even if it looks bad, there are easily hundreds lining up get in. And not even the acgme looks into it.
The only reason I sued the program was because I wasn’t getting any interviews for anything.
Like I said, after a year, the EEOC send me a list of reasons for terminating me, one was the I didn’t confirm an order from an attending, i apologied and never did it again. Another was that I didn’t ask an OB attending if a patient was able to sit down for a spinal, but i did see the patient sitting and asked the patient. Those aren’t reasons to terminate a resident.
That same year, a resident deep extubated someone with severe pulm htn, and she passed away, another resident gave ancef to a patient with allergies, and led to anaphylactic shock, because he didn’t check the record, ect ect.

I have evidence for all of this. And i worked in NYC for a year as an anesthesia house staff, and never had any issues with anyone. And like i said, i have evidence for everything that I’m saying. There are incredibly toxic programs in the nation, so there’s no reason to not to suspect them. The problem is that for some reason people have forgotten to help each other.

Unfortunately the medical residency is somewhat like the court system. (People know I like to use analogies)

Once you are terminated (akin to being convicted in the court system) and trying to clear your name. To get back into the game. It’s incredibly difficult.

Yes. There are anesthesia residents I know who have personally killed someone being drunk, gotten suspended from residency , went to trial , somehow daddy’s money got them off (unbelievable they got completely off Scott free) and the residency (which is super malignant) let them continue after the court trial acquittal. Other residency big time drug abused , got suspended ….finished residency and fellowship and became chief quality officer of major institutions.

Both of these people probably escaped due to pretty white privileged (they are very attractive white males and well spoken). Yeah. Luck as well.

So I’m sorry this happened to you.

My advice is it’s extremely uphill battle. You have 13 months under your belt. Get an unrestricted medical license. Than once you get it. Apply for insurance review jobs, bs medical director jobs at spas. They need someone with medical license to run the place.

There is a lot you can do with a medical degree
But you need income. And that’s the best way to make good income these days.

It’s extremely difficult to get into anesthesia residency these days. Even with my vast resources and I’ve tried for 2 med students who didn’t match 1 and 3 years ago. Knowing program directors. Putting out feelers and still no luck.

I did get my sister in law who didn’t match the hook up in a psych residency 5 days after the match. She was devastated no job prospects. That was pure luck because one of my former anesthesia residents is married to program director for psychiatry residency and she had an opening due to pgy-2 wanting to transfer to another program.

get your medical license first. You need money.

 

[UscGhost]

I’ve been told that it takes alot to fire a resident, but not in my case. I never did an M&M, I had good evals, never was reprimanded for anything, didn’t get due process. I did get approved for FMLA leave and it was for 6 weeks.
I don’t really see any consequences for firing resident. The spot will get filled up in a few days, and even if it looks bad, there are easily hundreds lining up get in. And not even the acgme looks into it.
The only reason I sued the program was because I wasn’t getting any interviews for anything.
Like I said, after a year, the EEOC send me a list of reasons for terminating me, one was the I didn’t confirm an order from an attending, i apologied and never did it again. Another was that I didn’t ask an OB attending if a patient was able to sit down for a spinal, but i did see the patient sitting and asked the patient. Those aren’t reasons to terminate a resident.
That same year, a resident deep extubated someone with severe pulm htn, and she passed away, another resident gave ancef to a patient with allergies, and led to anaphylactic shock, because he didn’t check the record, ect ect.

I have evidence for all of this. And i worked in NYC for a year as an anesthesia house staff, and never had any issues with anyone. And like i said, i have evidence for everything that I’m saying. There are incredibly toxic programs in the nation, so there’s no reason to not to suspect them. The problem is that for some reason people have forgotten to help each other.

Generally speaking..its pretty hard to fill up a residency spot after the match. Very few residents are available, and usually they are available because they had an issue somewhere (thus less desired).

As you mentioned, the reasons they apparently gave you to fire you, are not reasons a program will fire a resident. However, if they WANT to fire you, then they will often look for objective things to document in order to do later.

So the question is..why did they want to fire you?

Firing you in order to accept another resident is unlikely..as if they liked that other resident so much, they would have accepted them during the match. Or why would they have even ranked you if they didn't think you fit the program to begin with.

6 weeks is nothing. Pregnant residents do that all the time

I agree with the other posters. There are other issues that they wanted to fire you for(overall attitude, skill level, etc) and they just came up with other issues later that were easier to prove.

Its like of you work at Starbucks and you cause general problems. Hard to legally fire you for that..so they will just find a reason to fire you (showed up late, etc)

 

[pgg]

Toxic programs certainly exist. Racism and sexism are real.

I've seen residents who were having ordinary resident struggles, and ordinary resident complications, get put on the department ****list for subjective reasons like personality. Once you get a label as dumb or lazy or careless or arrogant, deserved or not, it can be hard to shake it. Attendings gossip, share stories.

All of a sudden, every small mistake or normal gap in knowledge is a symptom of an un-fixable character flaw and you no longer get the benefit of the doubt.

Almost no attendings at residency programs have any formal training in how to be an educator. It means many if not most teaching programs are seriously lacking in the ability to handle and remediate struggling residents. Most attendings don't even want to be teachers at all.

The only reason the concept of residency training works at all is because 99% of residents are very high achieving adult learners. The model has real flaws.

But firing a resident is something on a whole other level. The balance there tilts heavily toward keeping problematic residents because firing someone is very difficult (if they resist even a little bit), the loss of labor impacts day to day operations, and even though anesthesia is a fairly competitive field these days it's not easy to find a GOOD replacement resident (especially off-cycle or in an advance year).

Again I don't think you're lying or misrepresenting yourself or events, but I do get a real "lack of insight" vibe.

OP you might want to see if you can get a mod to move this thread over to general residency forum. I think you might find more help there.

This might be helpful.

OP, I can move the thread if you like.

 

[Aether2000]

Several states allow a limited license or limited permit after only one year of training, but may restrict the practice to underserved or rural areas. These include NY, CA, LA, MT, SC, AK. I wish there were a path available for you in anesthesiology but I cannot see a viable way to make that happen.

 

[estefancillo07]

Toxic programs certainly exist. Racism and sexism are real.

I've seen residents who were having ordinary resident struggles, and ordinary resident complications, get put on the department ****list for subjective reasons like personality. Once you get a label as dumb or lazy or careless or arrogant, deserved or not, it can be hard to shake it. Attendings gossip, share stories.

All of a sudden, every small mistake or normal gap in knowledge is a symptom of an un-fixable character flaw and you no longer get the benefit of the doubt.

Almost no attendings at residency programs have any formal training in how to be an educator. It means many if not most teaching programs are seriously lacking in the ability to handle and remediate struggling residents. Most attendings don't even want to be teachers at all.

The only reason the concept of residency training works at all is because 99% of residents are very high achieving adult learners. The model has real flaws.

But firing a resident is something on a whole other level. The balance there tilts heavily toward keeping problematic residents because firing someone is very difficult (if they resist even a little bit), the loss of labor impacts day to day operations, and even though anesthesia is a fairly competitive field these days it's not easy to find a GOOD replacement resident (especially off-cycle or in an advance year).

Again I don't think you're lying or misrepresenting yourself or events, but I do get a real "lack of insight" vibe.



This might be helpful.

OP, I can move the thread if you like.

What makes it difficult to fire a resident? I genuinely don’t know. It’s just telling the gme office about it, and it’s done. Especially if they know each other. And I’ve spoken to a couple of PDs with the reasons the eeoc gave me for firing me, and they all said those aren’t reasons to fire anybody.

 

[nimbus]

OP, were there other residents during your time there who were also fired?

 

[CopaceticOne]

What makes it difficult to fire a resident?

Creating the significant paper trail of issues, the process of warnings / probation / attempted remediation, the impact on scheduling and the resulting internal turmoil it creates, the time suck of the appeal process, etc.

Basically it is a lot, and I really mean a lot, of extra work to fire a resident. An easier way is contract non-renewal because it gets the resident out of the program but doesn’t need nearly as much of the justification. Of course, this is how clinically questionable residents occasionally get into other programs in the same speciality.

The caveat to it being difficult to fire a resident is unless it is for them being an immediate threat to patient safety. That is the only time I’ve seen the hammer be able to come down very rapidly - in just a few days. Even then, there was likely a paper trail that had been started because things like that don’t happen out of thin air.

There is something 1) you aren’t telling us or 2) you still just don’t have any insight into being a serious issue. Either way, that sucks. As others have said: because of the current competitive status for matching into anesthesiology there is ZERO chance any program will feel the desire to take a chance on you.

If you want to do clinical medicine, you need to be realistic and aim for either FM or IM, just by nature of the number of slots. Even then you are going to struggle to get a new spot. Time to start thing of a long term, sustainable Plan B.

 

[CopaceticOne]

It’s just telling the gme office about it, and it’s done.

Nope, that is not at all how it works. Not one bit.

 

[oldman]

Hello everyone

I learned about this site and made an account, as i feel that I’m out of options. I’ll try to keep it brief, but I’ll be more than happy to provide details if you PM me.

I was able to be in an anesthesia residency a few years ago. Which has been my childhood dream. Since i started, the program had been through 3 PDs. I had asked for fmla leave, as my mom was diagnosed with a uterine sarcoma, and was helping her post surgery.

Then upon my return, i was terminated. I wasn’t given any reason at first. I had all positive evals, didn’t have any personal issues with anyone, and wasn’t even given due process. Then a year later, the EEOC sent me a paper saying that one of the reasons i was terminated was because i failed to verbally repeat what an attending said, which of course wasn’t on purpose. And it never happened again. I later find out that one of the residents had been held back for 2 years for poor performance, and I thought that the program just wanted to give my position to him. And later in a deposition with that PD, She said I never should’ve been hired because anesthesia residents should all look like tom brady (her words exact). I had contacted the ACGME, who told me that they can’t help me because they dont handle resident/program issues.

So, I recently started a job at Target, because i haven’t found any work without being board certified. And if i didn’t get that job, me and my mom wouldn’t have been able to afford our electric bill. We are not wealthy at all.

Everything that Ive said, i have evidence for. But a few PDs that I’ve messaged have told me that no one cares about the evidence, that I’m just seen as a problem no matter what.

I’ve been told that I’m an incredibly good candidate. And I had plenty of interviews at first. My only problem was that a temporary PD didn’t like me.

I haven’t been able to get shadowing opportunities, and all the friends that Ive met during my career have all turned their back on me. Ive also applied to ER and 1 year programs with no luck, even though I’m not too passionate about those.

If anyone has advice or know of a place that would allow me to shadow please PM me. Or if you need any more info, please PM me. There has to be someone in the country willing to give me a chance to hear me out.

Thanks

EDIT:
Thanks for replying everyone, but it really just looks like I’m screwed 🤦‍♂
I did work as anesthesia house staff in nyc for a year. Basically doing the same work as a crna. I never had any problems with anyone, did my job well, and liked working there. I left because the program shut down.
I wish more people would put themselves in my shoes. When I was terminated, I was just given one sheet of paper, stating poor performance. But none of my evals said that. And i had to wait a year, for a paper from the eeoc to find out the specific reasons. It is an absurd situation that happened to me. I wasn’t even given due process. The reason all this sounds crazy, is because it is. I went to a toxic program and they did whatever they wanted. It’s a long story, so if anyone is interested, PM me. But i don’t think I’m going to get much help here. Thanks anyway

Edit #2: on the tom brady thing, the temp PD did say that in the deposition. From the first day i worked with her, she always told me i should switch specialaties because i didn’t look like an anesthesiologist. I just acted normal and didn’t mind it. Then she became PD and terminated me. She’s left to work at another hospital a couple of months after terminating me, so she didn’t care at that point.

Where I trained there was a resident who was fired for inappropriate interactions with patients and managed to sue their way back into the program. Problem if you win back that spot will be if that program is still toxic you’ll be right back in that environment.

Curious if you already completed your transitional year. Or if this program included your intern year.

 

[UscGhost]

What makes it difficult to fire a resident? I genuinely don’t know. It’s just telling the gme office about it, and it’s done. Especially if they know each other. And I’ve spoken to a couple of PDs with the reasons the eeoc gave me for firing me, and they all said those aren’t reasons to fire anybody.

Also,

If this was such a malignant program. Usually that reputation precedes itself and usually people select other sites...unless they have a poor CV

So my assumption would be that this wasnt a malignant program. So it would surprise me that suddenly became malignant during your first year.

Again, lots of things dont add up

 

[Gator7]

As others have said there is something major missing or a complete troll post and wasting our time.

I am not in academics; however, when I was cheif resident I was allowed to give input on junior residents during the annual contract renewal meetings.

There were two residents in particular with glaring deficiencies in work ethic, professionalism, knowledge and skill. Always late, wouldn’t answer phone on call, had no knowledge of or interest in the field of anesthesia.

However there weren’t any major issues like drug abuse or direct patient harm. Therefore nothing was done.

They are out there practicing somewhere now unfortunately. I can see that one is still not boarded years after residency if that’s a sign of anything.

My impression is that it is a huge burden on PDs to fire or not renew a resident and it needs to be a major issue to do so.

 

[UscGhost]

As others have said there is something major missing or a complete troll post and wasting our time.

I am not in academics; however, when I was cheif resident I was allowed to give input on junior residents during the annual contract renewal meetings.

There were two residents in particular with glaring deficiencies in work ethic, professionalism, knowledge and skill. Always late, wouldn’t answer phone on call, had no knowledge of or interest in the field of anesthesia.

However there weren’t any major issues like drug abuse or direct patient harm. Therefore nothing was done.

They are out there practicing somewhere now unfortunately. I can see that one is still not boarded years after residency if that’s a sign of anything.

My impression is that it is a huge burden on PDs to fire or not renew a resident and it needs to be a major issue to do so.

Yup. This tends to be the standard practice.

Takes ALOT to hold someone back. Takes even more to fire them.

"Not looking like Tom Brady" is not a legitimate reason...or a legitimate fake reason.

 

[Harpoon1]

The only way to get to the bottom of this is to know if the PD was talking about skinny fat nfl combine Brady or rich AF botox Brady

 

[UscGhost]

The only way to get to the bottom of this is to know if the PD was talking about skinny fat nfl combine Brady or rich AF botox Brady

True dat