Naplex, CPJE, and Texas MPJE- my 2 cents

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jadoof644

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Hey guys,

I recently found I out passed all three of my licensing exams and thought I'd share my study habits for them all since this board has helped me so much in getting to this point.

Naplex- It is really as random as people say. There's no certain topics you should concentrate on more then the others, because it somehow finds a way to ask you about everything. I had about 3 questions on diabetes on 5 on MS. I studied just Rxprep (no question bank) for 2 weeks (9-6 everyday and more on weekends) and passed with a 124. I read through the book 3 times during that time, skipping over the beginning chapters until my final run-through. I looked at the SDN 120 calculations and felt that they were much more complicated then the math would be on the actual exam, and I was right, the math in the naplex math chapter was more then enough (NERD ALERT: I love math so I wasn't too worried about it). I walked out of the exam feeling like I'd failed, but from everybodys experiences, I think that's how everybody pretty much feels no matter how much they prepared for the exam. I can't say much about the pre-naplex because it didn't seem like it was worth taking based on what other people have said but it may be a good idea if you want peace of mind about where you stand a couple days before taking the exam. I had MANY biostats questions, but know of others who had next to none (which shows just how random the exam can be). A question I frequently asked classmates about before taking the exam was how many check all that apply questions are there, and for me there were about 15-20ish like that.

CPJE- this one was a killer. I had the misfortune of taking the exam during the QA period and waited about a month and a half for my results. The best advice I can give for this exam is to take it as soon after the NAPLEX as you can. I used the Wiessman law book and RxPrep CPJE book which I went through 2 times before the exam and ended up having only about 5-6 law questions. I had 2 simple CrCl calculations which I wasnt expecting, but other then that it was all clinical drug questions. For this I reread the Naplex RxPrep book 2 times (I had a week between both exams) and concentrated on the ID section, IV compatibility that was mentioned for drugs throughout the book, the chart that listed drug antidotes, and made sure I knew DOSAGES. I cannot stress that enough, for the biggest difference between the CPJE and NAPLEX is that the CPJE requires you to know much more detailed information about the drugs, especially the normal dosages for each condition and their routes of administration. Most of the prescriptions they showed me had dosage problems which I would never have gotten right if I hadn't studied the specific drug dosages. For the material I used, the Weismann book was good for a general overview, while the CPJE book was a quick 24ish page summary of all the important points for the exam. I would not recommend using just the CPJE book to study the law portion, but it is a good quick reference to look over after reading the Weissman book. In the end I walked out of this exam completely unsure of whether I passed or not, because the tricky thing about the exam is that you don't know which of the 90 questions are going to be removed, so you can't figure out if you did well or not. However, to answer the question of how many you can safely miss in order to pass, the answer is 18 questions. My logic to this is that is you miss 18 questions out of the 90, then even if they don't remove any of those 18 that you missed, you would still have a 57/75, which is a 76 (passing). Add in the fact that its a scaled score and you may be able to miss a couple more. I came out with 17 questions I did not know the answer to and ended up with an 80, which seems about right (this scoring also made sense for the MPJE to me). Once again this was my way of thinking about scoring, if somebody knows this is invalid then please say so and explain.

Texas MPJE- I took this as a back up after the CPJE while waiting for the QA to end. I studied for about 3-4 days for 5-6 hours each day. To be honest I didn't put my full effort into studying for this exam because I just wanted to pass the CPJE, but I feel like this was more then enough time for most people. My sources were the Sarah Fichuk "Pass The Texas Pharmacy Law Exam", Cacciatore 29 page supplement (I didn't have the actual book just the supplement) and a 50 page review of federal law from 2010. The book by Fichuk, while very good, was not enough to pass the exam. Some sort of federal law review is needed because I had numerous questions about stuff like adulteration, federal acts, and such on the exam. Fichuk does not go over there things and I probably would not have passed if I had only relied on her book. I got my results online 3 days later around 1 pm in the afternoon and passed with an 88. Just a heads up, I did all of the questions at the back of the Pass Texas Law Book, and you should know that MPJE questions are not like that. They are all scenario based mostly on the exam, and there are choose all that apply questions like that naplex (I had about 6 of those on my exam). The answer choices can also be very tricky, with two answers that are very similar but just worded a little differently that you have to somehow differentiate between and choose the correct answer.

I know this was a lot to read, but like I said at the beginning these boards have helped me reach where I am now and so I felt the need to give back as well. Big shout out to everybody thats been posting this past summer about their exam experiences, your advice helped calm me down when I began feeling too nervous. I hope this helps anybody still preparing for the exams, and feel free to PM me about any questions relating to anything I've mentioned above. Good luck everybody!

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Thanks for your input, which will be helpful for future test takers.
I also transfered my score to Texas when I was waiting for CPJE but I did that pretty late. I had the same thought. If I can't pass CPJE, at least I will have some backup. I still didn't take MPJE yet. Since I passed CPJE, I don't feel the urgency to take MPJE.
 
I'd like to chime in here to put some people at ease and to help others gauge their studying better. Jadoof44 got an 88 on the Texas MPJE, which sounds to me like an amazing score. I studied about as much and got an 80. I read through the actual law text from the state board website once, then I looked through my professor's federal law notes once. I went to school in Pennsylvania. Nothing from my school notes was on the exam except for adulteration/mislabling, which he did stress, but this was like one question out of 90. For all the stuff for pharmacy classes B, D-H, I got from the law text. All the class A and C stuff I remembered from working as a tech in undergrad in Texas and my rotations in Pennsylvania. I was a retail technician. If you had good rotations and paid attention to processes and protocol, you might be fine as long as you go over the other classes of pharmacy. The laws they test over get really specific, so don't forego anything. I didn't think some of the rarer pharmacy types were important to remember specific numbers for, so it was hard for me to recall them. lol rural pharmacies...damn it! Haven't even heard of them until I read the law book.

The NAPLEX for me was much less stressful. A lot of the therapeutics stuff was pretty common material you should remember from pharmacy school. I had to study all of the brand names because I only used generic names while in school, and the exam really mixed brand and generic names all over the place. They did test material over every chapter in the RxPrep book. I think RxPrep is an extremely useful resource. If you get that book, their sample test question bank, and do the 120 math questions packet, you'll feel very confident. RxPrep underlines and makes little pictures over important topics within the chapters. I found that a lot of stuff they stressed and underlined was on my exam. Their question bank had a ton of questions, and I felt like a good number of questions on my exam were very, very similar to the question bank. The question bank itself might not be sufficient unless you have good school notes, because some of the answers explained would just say "see page XXX in the book." I knew I was doing well when I started getting really weird, tough questions. I could kind of see my questions getting harder and harder then suddenly get very easy once in a while, haha... I got a 90, I'm 100% sure I got 100% of the math right from doing the SDN 120 math packet plus my school's biostats notes. My only biostats question on the exam didn't require me to know any biostats.... it was weird.

In the end, I was confident I passed NAPLEX when I walked out of there. Celebrated that night, and the next night, then got my score 2 days after. The Texas MPJE, on the other hand, was the worst exam I've ever taken my entire life. And I was in university for 8 years, I got a BS degree in human biology before pharmacy school. I didn't celebrate the night after I took the MPJE. I mean I did go out with some friends, but it was more like stress drinking and I had to forget about the exam before it devoured my soul.
 
I'd like to chime in here to put some people at ease and to help others gauge their studying better. Jadoof44 got an 88 on the Texas MPJE, which sounds to me like an amazing score. I studied about as much and got an 80. I read through the actual law text from the state board website once, then I looked through my professor's federal law notes once. I went to school in Pennsylvania. Nothing from my school notes was on the exam except for adulteration/mislabling, which he did stress, but this was like one question out of 90. For all the stuff for pharmacy classes B, D-H, I got from the law text. All the class A and C stuff I remembered from working as a tech in undergrad in Texas and my rotations in Pennsylvania. I was a retail technician. If you had good rotations and paid attention to processes and protocol, you might be fine as long as you go over the other classes of pharmacy. The laws they test over get really specific, so don't forego anything. I didn't think some of the rarer pharmacy types were important to remember specific numbers for, so it was hard for me to recall them. lol rural pharmacies...damn it! Haven't even heard of them until I read the law book.

The NAPLEX for me was much less stressful. A lot of the therapeutics stuff was pretty common material you should remember from pharmacy school. I had to study all of the brand names because I only used generic names while in school, and the exam really mixed brand and generic names all over the place. They did test material over every chapter in the RxPrep book. I think RxPrep is an extremely useful resource. If you get that book, their sample test question bank, and do the 120 math questions packet, you'll feel very confident. RxPrep underlines and makes little pictures over important topics within the chapters. I found that a lot of stuff they stressed and underlined was on my exam. Their question bank had a ton of questions, and I felt like a good number of questions on my exam were very, very similar to the question bank. The question bank itself might not be sufficient unless you have good school notes, because some of the answers explained would just say "see page XXX in the book." I knew I was doing well when I started getting really weird, tough questions. I could kind of see my questions getting harder and harder then suddenly get very easy once in a while, haha... I got a 90, I'm 100% sure I got 100% of the math right from doing the SDN 120 math packet plus my school's biostats notes. My only biostats question on the exam didn't require me to know any biostats.... it was weird.

In the end, I was confident I passed NAPLEX when I walked out of there. Celebrated that night, and the next night, then got my score 2 days after. The Texas MPJE, on the other hand, was the worst exam I've ever taken my entire life. And I was in university for 8 years, I got a BS degree in human biology before pharmacy school. I didn't celebrate the night after I took the MPJE. I mean I did go out with some friends, but it was more like stress drinking and I had to forget about the exam before it devoured my soul.

I'm taking the MPJE in 17 days. The Lexis Nexis book is so dry to read and I don't have the Cacciatore books.
 
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I'd like to chime in here to put some people at ease and to help others gauge their studying better. Jadoof44 got an 88 on the Texas MPJE, which sounds to me like an amazing score. I studied about as much and got an 80. I read through the actual law text from the state board website once, then I looked through my professor's federal law notes once. I went to school in Pennsylvania. Nothing from my school notes was on the exam except for adulteration/mislabling, which he did stress, but this was like one question out of 90. For all the stuff for pharmacy classes B, D-H, I got from the law text. All the class A and C stuff I remembered from working as a tech in undergrad in Texas and my rotations in Pennsylvania. I was a retail technician. If you had good rotations and paid attention to processes and protocol, you might be fine as long as you go over the other classes of pharmacy. The laws they test over get really specific, so don't forego anything. I didn't think some of the rarer pharmacy types were important to remember specific numbers for, so it was hard for me to recall them. lol rural pharmacies...damn it! Haven't even heard of them until I read the law book.

The NAPLEX for me was much less stressful. A lot of the therapeutics stuff was pretty common material you should remember from pharmacy school. I had to study all of the brand names because I only used generic names while in school, and the exam really mixed brand and generic names all over the place. They did test material over every chapter in the RxPrep book. I think RxPrep is an extremely useful resource. If you get that book, their sample test question bank, and do the 120 math questions packet, you'll feel very confident. RxPrep underlines and makes little pictures over important topics within the chapters. I found that a lot of stuff they stressed and underlined was on my exam. Their question bank had a ton of questions, and I felt like a good number of questions on my exam were very, very similar to the question bank. The question bank itself might not be sufficient unless you have good school notes, because some of the answers explained would just say "see page XXX in the book." I knew I was doing well when I started getting really weird, tough questions. I could kind of see my questions getting harder and harder then suddenly get very easy once in a while, haha... I got a 90, I'm 100% sure I got 100% of the math right from doing the SDN 120 math packet plus my school's biostats notes. My only biostats question on the exam didn't require me to know any biostats.... it was weird.

In the end, I was confident I passed NAPLEX when I walked out of there. Celebrated that night, and the next night, then got my score 2 days after. The Texas MPJE, on the other hand, was the worst exam I've ever taken my entire life. And I was in university for 8 years, I got a BS degree in human biology before pharmacy school. I didn't celebrate the night after I took the MPJE. I mean I did go out with some friends, but it was more like stress drinking and I had to forget about the exam before it devoured my soul.


When you say you "read through the actual law text", I assume you are talking about the Pharmacy Laws & Rules statues on the Texas BOP website? They are over 600+ pages long in print. Were you just reading them casually, or were you also committing every single word to memory? I'm very confused how we are expected to memorize every detail of every single pharmacy statute ever written just by reading through the law statutes only once (?!) but it seems like people who passed the MPJE have done it, could you please tell me how you did it?
 
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