Navy Hpsp First Choice Numbers For Class Of 2005

[Teufelhunden]

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I received this email (attached below) last week, and have a few questions about it. (Hopefully some of you Navy Docs will be able to lend some insight).

These numbers do not include returning GMOs who may have changed their mind regarding their specialty and therefore may be applying for GME1 positions, right?

I'm applying to OB at Portsmouth for my #1 choice. With only 14 people applying for 13 positions, does this mean that I'm virtually guaranteed a spot? (barring some unforeseen surge in applications from returning GMOs for OBGYN PGY1 spots).

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1. As promised, "FIRST CHOICE" numbers are below. I will not break them
down by hospital but I will tell you that San Diego is always the most
popular site. And that is true again this year except for PSY, which is
spread relatively evenly.

Number of Navy GME-1 positions available: FP--43; MED--58; OB--13; PEDS--21
(may decrease to 19); PSY--11; SUR--50; TRA--62.

Number of Students Asking For:

FP -- 30
MED -- 45
OB -- 14
PEDS -- 27
PSY -- 7
SUR -- 69
TRA -- 60
1-YEAR DEF -- 5
FULL DEF ANES -- 15
FULL DEF DERM -- 1
FULL DEF EMER MED -- 5
FULL DEF FP -- 4
FULL DEF INT MED -- 6
FULL DEF NEUROLOGY -- 1
FULL DEF NEUROSUR -- 3
FULL DEF OB -- 8
FULL DEF OPHTH -- 2
FULL DEF ORTHO -- 12
FULL DEF OTO -- 3
FULL DEF PATH -- 5
FULL DEF PSY -- 2
FULL DEF RAD -- 6
FULL DEF SURG-PLASTICS -- 1
FULL DEF GEN SUR -- 10
FULL DEF UROL -- 3

 

[bobbyseal]

Hey,

I'm pretty sure this is just the current med school graduates first choices. I imagine most people coming back from GMO's are looking to garner PGY-2 spots. Then again, I suppose there could be some folks coming back from a GMO who are looking to get a full deferment for something that matches at the PGY-2 level.

 

[Mirror Form]

that's pretty cool that the navy gives you guys that info, I hope the army sends out something similar.

 

[militarymd]

returning GMOs are generally in pgy-2 slots ...not fygme which is what med students apply to .

 

[Teufelhunden]

returning GMOs are generally in pgy-2 slots ...not fygme which is what med students apply to .

Very true. However, there are some who switch programs and have to repeat internship. The PGY2 OBGYN class at Portsmouth has two people who did non-OB internships, followed by a GMO tour, then started over as OB interns. That class was (hopefully) an anomoly in that regard.

For every returning GMO who applies for a PGY1 spot, that's one less spot for graduting HPSP'ers, thus my sincere hope that OBGYN is very unpopular amongst returning GMOs this year (fingers crossed).

 

[misfit]

Teufelhunden:

I am also in the Navy HPSP Class of 2005. I, on the other hand, am wishing very badly to get a full deferment in Anesthesia (I am one of the 15 on the list asking for full deferment). I am quite scared right now as to whether or not I will get my first choice. I figure Anesthesia is competitive enough now that all the PGY2 slots will be eaten up by GMO returnees. If so, and if I do not get full deferment, I am stuck in GMO land after a Navy internship. Oy!!!

I really do want to serve in Navy Medicine, but after talks with my Anesthesia Dept. Chair, he HIGHLY recommends I seek out a a civilian position. As I have been hearing recently, Navy Anesthesia just no longer has the volume and variety to provide anything more than adequate/substandard training.

I feel stuck at the moment.

misfit

 

[Navy Dive Doc]

Teufelhunden, I would say this year's PGY2 class is definitely an outlier, I have never seen any other resiterns for OBGYN. I'd say you're quite safe in getting the spot you want. Generally, OB is very unpopular with returning GMO types, thus the 90% straight through training rate.

If you're certain you want Portsmouth, then make sure they know how badly you want it. Keep on their radar screen (without pissing them off, of course). The key with Navy medicine is finding out who controls your fate and then making sure that person knows what you want. If you liked a particular resident, and they liked you, make sure you stay in touch with them, they'll have some input into the selection. Unless you made a fool of yourself on your audition rotation, you should get what you want.

It's nice of the Navy to give out the list, they didn't do it when I was coming through. Good luck to all, life in the fleet is not the end of the world, trust me.

 

[thenavysurgeon]

i totally agree with your statement about 'control'....you gotta talk to your detailer, the department head, and have someone make some phonecalls on your behalf...