Navy Psychiatry FAP

[BobA]

I'm an MS4 who just matched in a civilian psych residency. I'm saddled debt (From med school and pre-med), and I'm seriously considering the Navy Financial Assistance Program. The details are below, but basically I could pay off my loans for 3 years of service - which sounds like a bargain right now!

I am very early in this process and wanted to get some feedback on what it'd be like. Any idea on where that 3 year position would be? Deployed? Any chance I could get to San Diego, Portsmouth, VA, or Bethesda?

Would they let me do a fellowship prior to my service?





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[notdeadyet]

I'm an MS4 who just matched in a civilian psych residency. I'm saddled debt (From med school and pre-med), and I'm seriously considering the Navy Financial Assistance Program.

Before you get too far along, have you checked if Psych is on the FAP list?

FAP only has a set number of seats per each specialty that is considered in demand. If a specialty isn't on that list (and the list changes, from what I understand), you're SOL.

Might check with someone if Psych is on the list before you get yourself too excited.

 

[IgD]

I served in the Navy as a psychiatrist. PM me and we can discuss.

 

[BobA]

Before you get too far along, have you checked if Psych is on the FAP list?

FAP only has a set number of seats per each specialty that is considered in demand. If a specialty isn't on that list (and the list changes, from what I understand), you're SOL.

Might check with someone if Psych is on the list before you get yourself too excited.

Where do I find the FAP list?

 

[notdeadyet]

Where do I find the FAP list?

I've NEVER been able to get a solid answer about this. Lots of info about HPSP, but when I was looking into FAP in the past, I was never able to get anyone to post a list of confirmed FAP approved specialties for a given year, let alone the number of slots.

The best I was able to get is suggestions from people like "I'll bet EM is on it" or "We sure need general surgeons". Never an actual FAP list.

If you get a list from the recruiter, let me know what you find. I don't know how they're incented or trained, but they always seemed to do a hard sell on HPSP but back pedaled when I brought up FAP. Dunno...

 

[NavyFP]

I've NEVER been able to get a solid answer about this. Lots of info about HPSP, but when I was looking into FAP in the past, I was never able to get anyone to post a list of confirmed FAP approved specialties for a given year, let alone the number of slots.

The best I was able to get is suggestions from people like "I'll bet EM is on it" or "We sure need general surgeons". Never an actual FAP list.

If you get a list from the recruiter, let me know what you find. I don't know how they're incented or trained, but they always seemed to do a hard sell on HPSP but back pedaled when I brought up FAP. Dunno...

The simple reason you don't see a list is because the answer is nebulous. The Navy, for example, has a goal of 20 FAP this year. Would they prefer to have a bunch of Orthopods, Gen Surg and Anes? Yes, but we also need psych and primary care. FAP is more of a list of what we don't need and what we won't give it for. You just have to look at what you can get and go from there.

 

[notdeadyet]

The simple reason you don't see a list is because the answer is nebulous. The Navy, for example, has a goal of 20 FAP this year. Would they prefer to have a bunch of Orthopods, Gen Surg and Anes? Yes, but we also need psych and primary care. FAP is more of a list of what we don't need and what we won't give it for. You just have to look at what you can get and go from there.

Yeah, the fact that it's so nebulous is why more people end up defaulting into HPSP when FAP might have been better for them. You can't on FAP really being there, so it's kind of a pseudo-program.

 

[BobA]

The simple reason you don't see a list is because the answer is nebulous. The Navy, for example, has a goal of 20 FAP this year. Would they prefer to have a bunch of Orthopods, Gen Surg and Anes? Yes, but we also need psych and primary care. FAP is more of a list of what we don't need and what we won't give it for. You just have to look at what you can get and go from there.

Who would tell me if there's even a FAP spot? My recruiter? Would I apply and then find out later?

 

[Perrotfish]

A medical recruiter would be your next step here. That's not the same as a normal enlisted recruiter or a normal officer recruiter. And yes, if you're even the slightest bit interested you should start the application process immediatly. There's a lot of forms and physicals that take an unreasonably long time, so the best way to leave your options open is always to get started early. Remember, nothing is binding until you sign the service agreement and take the oath. So do everything short of signing the agreement ASAP, and then DON"T SIGN IT UNTIL YOU'RE SURE THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO DO.

 

[NavyFP]

Who would tell me if there's even a FAP spot? My recruiter? Would I apply and then find out later?

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