NBME 11=217, 5weeks out. 230+ possible on real deal?

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Hello all

The title says it all really. Did NBME 11 and felt reasonably comfortable through the whole thing, then was shocked to see a score of 217, and 2 digit score <450 - thats horrible! I think a 500 correlated to a 230? Did NBME 7 about a month ago, got 210, but I heard the NBMEs also got progressively more difficult so Im a little lost atm.

Im a little worried here. Anyone been in this position before?

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Well, the real question is what did you do in the month between those two NBMEs?

Tell us about your prep. FA, UW, Pathoma, etc. Need to know where you are on things like that.

5 weeks is plenty of time. But, you need to have a solid plan. Take 2 weeks and study and then do a NBME a week.
 
Thanks for the reply.

Ive done FA, Pathoma once each. Did UW 1st pass at 59% cum, random timed + all FA annotations, and a separate notebook with concepts from UW that blew me away. I had numerous personal issues that threw me off my game, but I've since gotten back on the horse and grinding hard. I am not satisfied with my grade in the least and wanted AT LEAST 230 on step, so for nbmes I know I need to be sitting around 240s to allow for game day stress/fluke exam.

Is it possible to pull this off?
 
Maybe.....I was hoping you were still doing UW or not even touched it. 59% is fairly low. I mean I have around an 80% right now on first try but I have figured out their style of questions. I think it is going to overestimate my score.

I would suggest hitting FA much more. With those scores, you either do not have the knowledge or do not know how to apply it to the questions? I would look there.

First, you need to find what you are missing. Then, build a plan.
 
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Is it possible to pull this off?
Yes but only you can figure the "gaps" in your knowledge which needs to be plugged.
UW & NBME can give you a fair idea.
Doing "this" or "that" is not going to help you much unless you know your weaknesses.
My advice would be to work on Topics you are weak in by reading whatever resources (Review Book, Textbook, Vidoes, Pathoma, Goljan, wikipedia etc etc).
It's important to know a particular topic by heart. than concentrate on any particular resource.
 
My advice would be to go straight through FA again, but SLOWLY. I think ~30-40 pages a day for roughly 3 weeks would be good. 2 weeks if you want to read a bit more each day with no days off, which I honestly recommend. This alone should take you ~4 hrs each day.

Repeat Uworld questions during this time, and review any concept you missed. For example, say you covered Micro maybe 15 days earlier right? You may be refreshed on some things as you move through questions and review those fuzzy concepts. After you have looked at everything in FA again take an NBME. NBME 12 or 13 would be my advice.Take at least 2 more, preferably 15 and 16.

If you study ~8 hrs a day for 6 days a week from here on out you have a very high likelihood of breaking 230, but that's my bias.

FYI: I read FA 3x cover to cover and it made a BIG difference in my score. Good luck!
 
Maybe.....I was hoping you were still doing UW or not even touched it. 59% is fairly low. I mean I have around an 80% right now on first try but I have figured out their style of questions. I think it is going to overestimate my score.

I would suggest hitting FA much more. With those scores, you either do not have the knowledge or do not know how to apply it to the questions? I would look there.

First, you need to find what you are missing. Then, build a plan.

Did u take an nbme yet, what was ur score? I just want to see the correlation. And what resources have u used throughout school and in dedicated. How many questions have u done?
 
Thanks for replies.

A lot of what I struggled with in UW was how convoluted the questions were, or just some random factoid to memorize from a list in FA that I never got around to yet. After checking answers for a lot of the UW questions, I would normally say "Oh right, I see what they meant there, and totally get it now".

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I dont know why only half of my msg posted. But what I mean to say overall was I usually 'knew' the underlying concepts behind answers (though certainly not always). It was just figuring out what the question was aiming for. A lot of times Id be thinking "Well if you mean it like so, its answer A. If you mean in like that, its B. ". Or just simple rote memorization lacking.

I think the big issue would be figuring out where the question is going/coming from to formulate my answer. Was thinking of doign kaplan qbank, but then that wouldnt leave much time for UW second lap. Anyone ever experience/overcome this?
 
See I am the opposite. UW almost leads me to the answer. There are some that are close. And then one just sounds better to me.

I do find their micro questions to be very specific sometimes and ask stuff not in FA or just not where I can figure it out. I have spent more time on Micro than anything and I am still missing more than I should. I hope the real deal is more straightforward with the micro.
 
59 % on Uworld is roughly around a 220 so you scoring a 217 is not a surprise or it shouldn't be.
70 % randomized, timed on Uworld would roughly put you in the 230+ area.
I would suggest you run through Pathoma one more time literally understanding and memorizing every little thing he talks about, doing tons of more Uworld questions and running through First aid one more time. I think all of that should push you in the 230+ area.
In my opinion the real exam is much harder than Uworld mainly because Uworld kind of leads you into answers where as the real exam just shot guns tons of answers (there's a lot more options than A to E) and the questions are much longer than anything you'll see on Uworld or NBME.
 
I'm an average med student who did well on Step 1.

Don't let people's ideas of what means what get you freaked out. I jumped 45 points in 5 weeks (with two big plateaus, including right before my test) so anything is possible. I used the qbanks to learn, including reading through Uworld right before my test. If I had paid attention to what people on here say about your Uworld average, I would have expected a score of about 25 points lower 🙂. The key for me was ditching something if I wasn't learning from it. Like random Uworld tests--systems based was better for me.

The things that helped me get over my plateaus:

1) Reading through First Aid over 10 days. I wrote down what I didn't know, tried to go slowly. Watched Pathoma for pathology during this-->30 point jump in the first 10 days of dedicated study.
2) Watched pathoma twice during my dedicated study (did not use it for pathology class at all but I did very well in my course by focusing on the lecture material, made pathoma easier).
3) In the last ten days before my test I spent 3 days watching pathoma, 3 days reading first aid again and 2 days re-reading as much of Uworld as I could stand (my previous tests, in systems based blocks). Wrote down stuff I didn't really know, but didn't really review it because I was so sick of it by the end. Chilled as much as possible the last 2 days. I figured before school exams I try to look over everything once close to my exam so I did it for this too, it just took 10 days 🙂. The last ten days produced a 15 point jump from my last practice test to my actual score. Unlike people who did very well despite insisting they failed for 4 weeks until we got our scores, I knew I had done pretty darn well on this test. And it was because of how much more confidence I had after my 10 day cram session--I was able to work through buzzword questions so quickly, and had time for reasoning.

Good luck! Work hard and have confidence.
 
Hey guys so since #11, Ive been busting my butt to the bone. Just took UWSA 1, scored 600/240.

I've heard it overestimates quite a bit. Can anyone comment on how much UWSA1 overestimates as a ballpark figure? Ive searched around but cant find much that is too recent.
 
Hey guys so since #11, Ive been busting my butt to the bone. Just took UWSA 1, scored 600/240.

I've heard it overestimates quite a bit. Can anyone comment on how much UWSA1 overestimates as a ballpark figure? Ive searched around but cant find much that is too recent.

Look at the 2014 Step 1 experiences thread. There are a lot of posts from people about their NBME/UWSA experiences that should give you some idea of where you stand right now.
 
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