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I read over the Compiled Step 1 Experiences, and I continuously see the phrase "the test requires you to really understand the concepts." So, I'm asking someone to provide an example (made-up, of course) of how a concept would be presented on the exam versus the "standard" presentation. And the million dollar question: how do you prepare for the "thinking" part of this test? Thanks.
 
A 5 yr old boy is rushed to the emergency room with a fever of 105F and a diffuse petechial rash over his body. The ER physician orders lab work which shows the following. Glc=30mg/dl, ketones=elevated, ACTH=elevated, Na=120mEq, K=5.7mEq, urinary 17-ketosteroids=low, PT=elevated, PTT=elevated, platelets=50,000. The blood pressure is 90/60 and dropping. The patient does not survive and a pathology report is requested by the ER physician. Which of the following findings would be noted on the pathology report?

A. Necrotic cells in the pituitary
B. Hamartoma in the hypothalamus
C. Red blood cells in the zona glomerulosa
D. Lymphocytes in the CSF
E. Warthin-Finkeldy cells in sample skin tissue

40 yr old male with a significant sexual history, presents to the internist with the complaint that he has recently been having trouble walking. A careful history reveals that the patient is a fisherman with a very ravenous appetite for seafood. The internist performs the physical exam and notices that the patient has bilateral loss of proprioception, 2-point-tactile discrimination, and vibratory sensation. Further examination reveals that the patient has bilateral spastic paralysis with hyperreflexia, hypertonia, and a positive Babinski sign. A positive Romberg test was also noted. With respect to the general appearance of the patient, the physician noted that the patient was in slight distress and appeared pale. There were no other remarkable physical findings. The physician ordered lab work which included: CBC, blood cultures, and urinalysis. The CBC revealed an RBC=2.5billion, WBC=11,000, MCV=110, HCT=45%. The urinalysis revealed presence of excess amounts of methylmalonic acid. The blood cultures were negative. Imagine that you are this patient’s physician, based on the above, what is a reasonable working diagnosis for this case?

A. Tabes Dorsalis
B. Thrombosis of Anterior Spinal Artery
C. Subacute Sclerosing Panencephalitis
D. Friedrich’s Ataxia
E. Subacute Combined Degeneration
F. Schwanoma

6 yr old male presents to his pediatrician with weakness in the arms and legs of 3 day duration. The boy's mother states that he recently recovered from an upper respiratory tract infection 1 week ago. History of present illness reveals that the weakness started in the lower extremities and then spread to the upper extremities. The physician orders a spinal tap and the CSF profile returns with the following finding: “Albuminocytologic dissociation”. What is the diagnosis?

A. Poliomyelitis
B. Multiple Sclerosis
C. Duchene-Muscular Dystrophy
D. Guillain-Barre Syndrome
E. Polymyositis

A 6 mo. old male presents to the clinic with recurrent pulmonary infections. The mother states that the boy had had an uncomplicated delivery, but had difficulty passing stool for weeks after birth. When the child was able to move his bowels the mother noted that the stool was greasy in appearance. The mother also states that the child has recently started coughing up large amounts of sputum. On physical exam the physician notes dullness to percussion in both lung fields and several petechiae on the lower limbs. Which of the following medications are used to treat the organism that most commonly affects patients with this presentation?

A. Ceftriaxone
B. Penicillin G
C. Cefotaxime
D. Azithromycin
E. Cefazolin
F. Ceftazidime
 
Dedf. Those don't sound too terrible. Although, would you see a serum glucose that LOW in someone with a hemorhagic necrosis of their cortex secondary to menningococcemia?

Do the questions have a lot of "fluff in them", so to say...I mean, it seems as if there were quite a bit of clues in these questions above. But, I can see where the second/third order comes in--cuz the diagnosis alone ain't gonna do u well.
 
lets jsut say i have been waiting my entire life so far for a test that tests you on understanding, concepts and thinking based on something you have learned. I sucked ass at the sat, mcat was very average, first 2 years tests were average at best. I was very disapointed at my medschool exams and the people who did well were the ones who i would study with occasionally and they would know nothing, and i would be explaining **** to them and theyd kill me cause i hate and am terrible at memorizing. The only times i felt rewarded were on my shelfs. So anyway i am hoping to god its true what people say about step 1 being a thinking test. I fing hate memorzing lists of ****
 
kcumbDO said:
A 5 yr old boy is rushed to the emergency room with a fever of 105F and a diffuse petechial rash over his body. The ER physician orders lab work which shows the following. Glc=30mg/dl, ketones=elevated, ACTH=elevated, Na=120mEq, K=5.7mEq, urinary 17-ketosteroids=low, PT=elevated, PTT=elevated, platelets=50,000. The blood pressure is 90/60 and dropping. The patient does not survive and a pathology report is requested by the ER physician. Which of the following findings would be noted on the pathology report?

A. Necrotic cells in the pituitary
B. Hamartoma in the hypothalamus
C. Red blood cells in the zona glomerulosa
D. Lymphocytes in the CSF
E. Warthin-Finkeldy cells in sample skin tissue

40 yr old male with a significant sexual history, presents to the internist with the complaint that he has recently been having trouble walking. A careful history reveals that the patient is a fisherman with a very ravenous appetite for seafood. The internist performs the physical exam and notices that the patient has bilateral loss of proprioception, 2-point-tactile discrimination, and vibratory sensation. Further examination reveals that the patient has bilateral spastic paralysis with hyperreflexia, hypertonia, and a positive Babinski sign. A positive Romberg test was also noted. With respect to the general appearance of the patient, the physician noted that the patient was in slight distress and appeared pale. There were no other remarkable physical findings. The physician ordered lab work which included: CBC, blood cultures, and urinalysis. The CBC revealed an RBC=2.5billion, WBC=11,000, MCV=110, HCT=45%. The urinalysis revealed presence of excess amounts of methylmalonic acid. The blood cultures were negative. Imagine that you are this patient’s physician, based on the above, what is a reasonable working diagnosis for this case?

A. Tabes Dorsalis
B. Thrombosis of Anterior Spinal Artery
C. Subacute Sclerosing Panencephalitis
D. Friedrich’s Ataxia
E. Subacute Combined Degeneration
F. Schwanoma

6 yr old male presents to his pediatrician with weakness in the arms and legs of 3 day duration. The boy's mother states that he recently recovered from an upper respiratory tract infection 1 week ago. History of present illness reveals that the weakness started in the lower extremities and then spread to the upper extremities. The physician orders a spinal tap and the CSF profile returns with the following finding: “Albuminocytologic dissociation”. What is the diagnosis?

A. Poliomyelitis
B. Multiple Sclerosis
C. Duchene-Muscular Dystrophy
D. Guillain-Barre Syndrome
E. Polymyositis

A 6 mo. old male presents to the clinic with recurrent pulmonary infections. The mother states that the boy had had an uncomplicated delivery, but had difficulty passing stool for weeks after birth. When the child was able to move his bowels the mother noted that the stool was greasy in appearance. The mother also states that the child has recently started coughing up large amounts of sputum. On physical exam the physician notes dullness to percussion in both lung fields and several petechiae on the lower limbs. Which of the following medications are used to treat the organism that most commonly affects patients with this presentation?

A. Ceftriaxone
B. Penicillin G
C. Cefotaxime
D. Azithromycin
E. Cefazolin
F. Ceftazidime



where did you find these questions?

thanks
 
HiddenTruth said:
Dedf. Those don't sound too terrible. Although, would you see a serum glucose that LOW in someone with a hemorhagic necrosis of their cortex secondary to menningococcemia?

Do the questions have a lot of "fluff in them", so to say...I mean, it seems as if there were quite a bit of clues in these questions above. But, I can see where the second/third order comes in--cuz the diagnosis alone ain't gonna do u well.

Surely you mean C for #1? It's a typical W-F syndrome presentation, especially with a K of 5.7.

You can find lymphocytes in normal CSF. Furthermore, simple CSF bacteremia doesn't cause drastic bloodwork changes seen in this case
 
hey all,
the questions posted above were written by me as a way to prepare for boards. They were posted on the pimp each other for step 1 thread months ago. The best way to study for step 1 is to try to think like the question writers. If you can write questions like the step1 writers can, then you can answer them. Here are the answers from top to bottom.

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d
f
 
i'll be starting rotations at Wilson on Sep 6th. When I visited the site after my first year I really liked the family like atmosphere at Wilson and the high tech environment of the hostpital. I'll also be close to home in staten island, ny and new york is ultimately where I would like to end up for residency.
 
idq1i said:
Surely you mean C for #1? It's a typical W-F syndrome presentation, especially with a K of 5.7.

You can find lymphocytes in normal CSF. Furthermore, simple CSF bacteremia doesn't cause drastic bloodwork changes seen in this case

yea, that's what i meant. Sorry.
 
Pox in a box said:

Yes way. pathognomonic for Guillain Barre.

But actually, while I thought these questions were amazingly written. They are more "Robbinsesque" than USMLE. What people are saying about Step 1 (and what I experienced) is that you'll see something random, something I don't think they'll ever expect you to have seen before, but they'll describe it in a way that test basic principles.

For example they might give you some long stem about a pt taking an experiment drug Drug X, and amongst all the fluff about the drug they'll mention that it's lipid soluble. Then they'll show you a picture of a cell and point to what organelle is most active, or where the drug acts, or how it's metabolized etc. Now in all of that they expect you surmise that lipid soluble drugs often bind to intranuclear receptors-- so maybe it's a steroid--from there you can figure out what they want. It's a basic concept, but might be lost on people who are focused on all the superfluous details, or get worked up beacuse they don't recogize the specific drug, or miss the key detail that will unlock the question for you.
 
Doc Ivy said:
Yes way. pathognomonic for Guillain Barre.

But actually, while I thought these questions were amazingly written. They are more "Robbinsesque" than USMLE. What people are saying about Step 1 (and what I experienced) is that you'll see something random, something I don't think they'll ever expect you to have seen before, but they'll describe it in a way that test basic principles.

For example they might give you some long stem about a pt taking an experiment drug Drug X, and amongst all the fluff about the drug they'll mention that it's lipid soluble. Then they'll show you a picture of a cell and point to what organelle is most active, or where the drug acts, or how it's metabolized etc. Now in all of that they expect you surmise that lipid soluble drugs often bind to intranuclear receptors-- so maybe it's a steroid--from there you can figure out what they want. It's a basic concept, but might be lost on people who are focused on all the superfluous details, or get worked up beacuse they don't recogize the specific drug, or miss the key detail that will unlock the question for you.


Yes, I know the pathognomonic association but did you actually see that buzzword combo on Step 1?
 
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