New AAMC Guidelines on Interacting with Pharma

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http://www.aamc.org/newsroom/pressrel/2008/080619.htm

We learned about this today in one of our meetings. Was wondering if others had heard of this and what they thought about it. It affects residents and attendings who work at med-school affiliated hospitals, whether on or off work.

 

[gutonc]

I think the funniest thing about the report is this:

The panel was chaired by retired Merck Chairman and CEO Roy Vagelos, M.D., and the vice chair was William Danforth, M.D., former chancellor of Washington University.

I'm fairly certain that I'm on record here as disliking my interview @ WashU b/c it felt like the Merck School of Medicine.

FWIW, my program instituted a (rather draconian) approach to industry interactions earlier this year. Essentially no reps on campus, ever. There are certain exceptions but that pretty much sums it up. It also includes lab/research reps. No food, no books, no buy some, get some deals (on the lab side of things), no pens, no nothing. My program (IM) had instituted a similar but less overbearing program 3y ago and it's been pretty decent. They sacked up and provided food for noon conference, Grand Rounds and 1/4 morning reports a week (and coffee for the rest of them) so it hasn't been a huge deal for us. Not sure about other programs though.

 

[Faebinder]

I think the called measure is rather extreme. I am unsure if the evidence shows that the gifts make the physician biased or that they are a sign of a bias already existent (i.e. I always liked Zosyn and thought the med was great and so I am more likely to take their pens).

 

[Shinken]

This is a nice compilation of evidence (with PubMed links) against drug rep gifts. Granted, they're from a biased website but the studies are from neutral parties:

http://nofreelunch.org/requiredinfluence.htm

 

[AmoryBlaine]

1. This issue is such a idiotic one. Why doesn't the AAMC get off their asses and actually do something about the fact that debt loads are soaring over $200k instead of trying to make sure that these poor meds students dont, god-forbid, take a free Januvia pen.

2. Who cares what the studies show on this issue? I'm sure that studies also show that taking overnight call is stressful for residents but that doesn't mean we should eliminate it. If you are that influenced by a lunch with a drug rep then there are other problems at work.

3. If some girl/guy in a sharp suit wants to talk to me for a few minutes about their new antibiotic and then buy me a steak dinner, I will go every time.