New ERAS research rules

[zl284]

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With the new ERAS research rules for 2027, can applicants still list publications that are submitted (not yet accepted or published)? Thanks!!

 

[SurfingDoctor]

You should never list publications that aren't accepted or published.

 

[phonyreal98]

You should never list publications that aren't accepted or published.

I’m going to push back a bit on this. I’m faculty now and have always listed my under review publications on my CV since undergrad, including for residency and fellowship. My reason being that I want to talk about my research projects in progress and this is a way to start that conversation.

 

[SurfingDoctor]

I’m going to push back a bit on this. I’m faculty now and have always listed my under review publications on my CV since undergrad, including for residency and fellowship. My reason being that I want to talk about my research projects in progress and this is a way to start that conversation.

Well, when someone lists a publication, I PubMed to read the abstract.

If it’s not in PubMed… well then.

 

[GoSpursGo]

With the new ERAS research rules for 2027, can applicants still list publications that are submitted (not yet accepted or published)? Thanks!!

Can you point us to the new ERAS research rules, for those of us not in the know?

FWIW, I do also include submitted papers on my CV (more as a way for me to remember what's cooking, and because my department cares about stuff like submitted pubs) but not on my NIH biosketch. However, I don't list the journal that it's submitted at for those entries until it's actually accepted.

I tend to agree that for the purpose of residency applications, a paper that is submitted is meaningless.

 

[zl284]

You should never list publications that aren't accepted or published.

Hi! The old ERAS research section had a way to designate submitted publications.

 

[zl284]

Can you point us to the new ERAS research rules, for those of us not in the know?

FWIW, I do also include submitted papers on my CV (more as a way for me to remember what's cooking, and because my department cares about stuff like submitted pubs) but not on my NIH biosketch. However, I don't list the journal that it's submitted at for those entries until it's actually accepted.

I tend to agree that for the purpose of residency applications, a paper that is submitted is meaningless.

Hi! Here's the link to the webinar recording: What You Need to Know About the 2027 ERAS® Application Season

They haven't released a ton of details yet, but the new rules are stricter in terms of what counts as publications (e.g. needs to be submitted to a peer-reviewed entity vs. old rules allowed publications such as blog posts).

 

[GoSpursGo]

Hi! Here's the link to the webinar recording: What You Need to Know About the 2027 ERAS® Application Season

They haven't released a ton of details yet, but the new rules are stricter in terms of what counts as publications (e.g. needs to be submitted to a peer-reviewed entity vs. old rules allowed publications such as blog posts).

So submitted still counts then? I’m trying to figure out what’s really different.

Just because you could include blog posts once upon a time doesn’t mean they count for anything

 

[zl284]

So submitted still counts then? I’m trying to figure out what’s really different.

Just because you could include blog posts once upon a time doesn’t mean they count for anything

I'm not sure, the video didn't go into specifics, but from my understanding they're limiting selections. I also called the AAMC support center and they couldn't give me a detailed answer.

I think another unrelated but big change is that they're preventing people from listing the same research presented at different conferences as separate entries.

 

[NotAProgDirector]

I haven't reviewed this recently, but the initial proposal was to allow applicants to link a project to posters/pubs/etc so it became more clear if the same work was being recycled.

 

[deomnibusdubitandum]

You should never list publications that aren't accepted or published.

There is literally a section on ERAS where you can do this. Articles in submission.

 

[SurfingDoctor]

There is literally a section on ERAS where you can do this. Articles in submission.

They probably should get rid of that then. Who knows what garbage people could write in there.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

They probably should get rid of that then. Who knows what garbage people could write in there.

Someone out there believes that submitted work could predict publication in residency, I suspect.

https://aao-hnsfjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/oto2.34

 

[SurfingDoctor]

Someone out there believes that submitted work could predict publication in residency, I suspect.

https://aao-hnsfjournals.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/oto2.34

Never heard of the journal. Frankly, that kinda seems apt for the topic.

Unfortunately, “publishing” academic research has become a large amount of slop. Don’t hate the player, hate the game I guess.

I’m still gonna consider “in submission” as valuable as a “leadership experience” in the Jelly of the Month Club.

 

[glycolysister]

….. Jelly of the Month Club.

How do I apply to this?

 

[SurfingDoctor]

How do I apply to this?

I know a guy. I’ll hook you up.

Just be sure to credit me as your supervisor for that experience.