New York neuro programs ranking

[igr11]

Hey everyone

Thanks for reading this post. I was searching for information on "the pecking order" of Neuro programs in NYC. I came across much hearsay and "this program is regarded as ..." statements, which are very vague. It's difficult to judge, especially since the facts seems to contradict this "general knowledge". Columbia is an obvious first, with Einstein a questionable second. But NYU, Sinai and Cornell all look attractive as well (as far as I can tell from my interviewing).

I would very much appreciate any opinions (subjective or objective) about the NYC programs. Also please give reasons for your opinions.

Thank you very much,
Igor

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[islander]

Don't have time to give reasons at the moment, but my ranking would be:
1. Columbia - best by far
2. Einstein
3. Cornell
4. NYU
5. Sinai

 

[dongfeng41]

As far as objective rankings, Columbia, Cornell and NYU are all very impressive based on USNews rankings. Although not a true measure of a residency program's nature, it does say something about the overall quality of the departments and services as a whole.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/best-hospitals/rankings/specihqneur.htm

Albert Einstein and Sinai, although not ranked here are also known to be very strong residency programs.

St Vincent's is a smaller, lesser known program in NYC, but it is probably in the best location within Manhattan.

A general concensus is that the diversity of pathology and ethnic groups within NYC is second to none, and that you will see this in any of the major hospitals within the city.

 

[Methyldopa]

As far as objective rankings, Columbia, Cornell and NYU are all very impressive based on USNews rankings. Although not a true measure of a residency program's nature, it does say something about the overall quality of the departments and services as a whole.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/best-hospitals/rankings/specihqneur.htm

The US News and world report list of best hospitals is horse doody. The categories that place a hospital as a top choice is ridiculous. I don't agree with anything that trashy "news" magazine ever puts out. Including college rankings, that simply rate colleges on their selectivity and not on their quality of education.

 

[Methyldopa]

As far as objective rankings, Columbia, Cornell and NYU are all very impressive based on USNews rankings. Although not a true measure of a residency program's nature, it does say something about the overall quality of the departments and services as a whole.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/best-hospitals/rankings/specihqneur.htm

Sorry double posted!

 

[skeedo]

I could not agree more with you , Methyldopa , on this funny and subjective issue of "top ranked" programs or "best hospitals" in US . At the end of the day, it is more of the individual and less of the program that determines what kind of doc. you become and how well you succeed. Although, as a medical student the school matters to give you a solid foundation ,but once you cross that threshold at the postgraduate level, it is what you put in that you get out of a program.

Lest we forget, medicine is an art and a science. Yeah, one might be a good "test taker", rattle off 200 diagnosis for a particular ailment , write X amount of papers and quote 100 studies , but if your bedside manner sucks, you are tactless , your organisational skills are chaotic or your business sense is oblique, (except if you are willing to become a bespectacled torturer of tiny rodents the lab) one will have a rough time in the "real world" of private practice ( the notorious "equalizer")

 

[Bob Loblaw]

Don't believe these rankings when it comes to Neuro. Neurology and Neurosurgery are ranked together for this list. A place can have an awesome Neurosurg program, and only an okay Neurology program, and the place gets crowned in the Top 20.

 

[neurologist]

Hey everyone

Thanks for reading this post. I was searching for information on "the pecking order" of Neuro programs in NYC. I came across much hearsay and "this program is regarded as ..." statements, which are very vague. It's difficult to judge, especially since the facts seems to contradict this "general knowledge". Columbia is an obvious first, with Einstein a questionable second. But NYU, Sinai and Cornell all look attractive as well (as far as I can tell from my interviewing).

I would very much appreciate any opinions (subjective or objective) about the NYC programs. Also please give reasons for your opinions.

Thank you very much,
Igor

#1. Columbia

After that, the programs are pretty equal and it's all a matter of geography. Would you rather spend most of your time in:

The Bronx (Einstein)
Downtown (NYU)
"Gold Coast" (Cornell)
Upper upper East Side (Sinai)

 

[ectopic_thought]

really. i ask that with no sarcasm.

i've heard they're all reputable programs where residents are well trained.

 

[play274]

really. i ask that with no sarcasm.

i've heard they're all reputable programs where residents are well trained.

That's one of the sanest comments that I've read on this board. In a lot of ways, the competition (and bad-talk) of these programs about each other often makes me laugh - but, heck, it's New York, isn't it?

IMO, all the New York programs are excellent. Yes, Columbia has the strongest reputation, but Cornell, Einstein, Mount Sinai, and NYU are also strong in their own rights. I have seen residents from these programs usually getting their top/near-top choices for fellowships and jobs.

 

[globallmedicine]

any updates on the NY pecking order?

 

[exgatr]

1. Columbia











2. The rest

 

[coleus blumei]

Can anybody update us on the the Neuro programs in the NYC area? Are only Columbia/Cornell/NYU the good ones out there? How about St. Vincent's which I heard was in Greenwich Village?

 

[bonran]

1. Columbia












2. The rest

Agree. The remaining programs may be competitive, but nowhere near the training one can get in the midwest or southeast university programs.

 

[medsRus]

Really curious about St. Vincent... don't know anything about them, but offered IV. What to do.....?

 

[PhakeDoc]

but offered IV.

Really? I wouldn't have known it from your post on the Interview thread. 🙄

 

[lanzarlaluna]

Really? I wouldn't have known it from your post on the Interview thread. 🙄

Post your interview offers, or feel the wrath of PhakeDoc!

 

[neurologylover]

If you want to become a great general neurologist or if you are particularly interested in epilepsy - then NYU is where its at!

One thing that NYU neurology could use more of is more exposure to neurocritical care as the neuro ICU is run by neurosurgery at all the NYU-affiliated institutions.

In terms of general neurology training, though, NYU is second to none. We have diverse exposure to all aspects of neurology except that mentioned above (neurocritical care). All of the residents are very happy and have lives outside of residency. All the resident get along very well and the call schedule could not be beat.

It is very busy, but its NYC - so that is expected. Thing is, it is not too busy where you dont have time to learn and expand on what you see in your clinics/wards.

For those of you intersted in becoming a well-rounded neurologist, then seriously consider NYU. Also if you want to become an epileptologist, then NYU is where you really should consider.