New York Programs

[CS_22]

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Hey all,

I know this seems exceptionally lazy, but I promise I'm only doing it cause () the search function is disabled. I got a couple more interview offers from New York programs, and I'm wondering if anyone would be willing to give me a super quick rundown on NY programs (I only applied 3 year programs). Also, any specific feedback on Methodist, St L-R, and Maimonides would be best (interview offers so far!)

Thanks,
CS

 

[ER-ER-Oh]

Hey all,

I know this seems exceptionally lazy, but I promise I'm only doing it cause () the search function is disabled. I got a couple more interview offers from New York programs, and I'm wondering if anyone would be willing to give me a super quick rundown on NY programs (I only applied 3 year programs). Also, any specific feedback on Methodist, St L-R, and Maimonides would be best (interview offers so far!)

Thanks,
CS

I can only talk about Methodist, interviewed there. I think it's a good program, it's in a great neighborhood for NYC, and has a brand new ED. They have a good inside track if you're interested in EMS, two grads have gotten the coveted FDNY EMS fellowship, with one being the medical director for the hospital's new EMS system, which is part of NY Presbyterian (how do you spell that?) hosp. system. They don't get much trauma, but train in trauma at Brookdale hosp., a level I out in the badlands of Brooklyn. I liked it a lot.

 

[EctopicFetus]

Chet.. from last yr bro..

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?p=3064603#post3064603

I also pulled it to the top as people will start interviewing soon!

 

[roja]

Feel free to PM me. I am at a 3 year NY program.

 

[jaeida8]

Does anyone know anything about SUNY Stony Brook? I know it went unfilled last year, but it seems like a good program.

 

[roja]

Does anyone know anything about SUNY Stony Brook? I know it went unfilled last year, but it seems like a good program.

Interviewed there. Now a grad or two.


PM me wiht your question. I"ll try and help out. I think there are one or two posters from there

 

[Poncho]

Did one of my EM rotations at New York Presbyterian (Columbia/Cornell). Although it's a new program, I think it is really good. The big strong points are the program director, the residents, faculty, good off-service rotations, and diverse pathology. Dr. Carter, the PD, used to be the program director at Bellevue and played a big role in developing that program into a premier residency. He has a vision of what works and what doesn't and is very supportive of the residents. He's brought in some very strong junior faculty from Bellevue, Jacobi, and other great programs who are really enthusiastic. The residents are all very smart and from diverse backgrounds, many with prior public health, business experience, and other interesting careers. There is a strong sense of camraderie and trail blazing within the residency. In terms of special interests, there are a lot of opportunities in international health electives and research and fellowship that will beginning there in the near future. I've heard that the off-service rotations are also really strong with great pediatrics and critical care experiences at two top notch institutions. Finally, there is a great diversity of pathology with patients coming from the "D.R. to the E.R." (DR = Dominican Republic) at Columbia to the well-to-do but medically sick at Cornell.

The only downsides are having to commute back and forth between the upper upper westide and the eastside with bicampus system, the somewhat cramped and outdated ER at Columbia, and the occassional disrespect from consulting/admitting services that comes with two high powered medicine/surgery powerhouses. However, I think the latter is beginning to not be much of an issue with the new residency and the respect it's beginning to garner.

 

[BklynWill]

When I worked for FDNY I was in and out of Methodist and Kings County (Downstate) all the time. They both seemed like excellent learning environments. Does anyone know how challenging it would be for me to get an elective rotation at these sites during my 4th year? I am currently a 2nd-year at PCOM.

Also, since I am new at this rotation business, how far in advance should I try to schedule these spots? My first 4th-year elective is at least 2 years away.

 

[PoBoy]

When I worked for FDNY I was in and out of Methodist and Kings County (Downstate) all the time. They both seemed like excellent learning environments. Does anyone know how challenging it would be for me to get an elective rotation at these sites during my 4th year? I am currently a 2nd-year at PCOM.

Also, since I am new at this rotation business, how far in advance should I try to schedule these spots? My first 4th-year elective is at least 2 years away.

Getting an elective rotation at Downstate is pretty easy. I met the medicial student coordinator at a conference, and he told me that is you apply 4 weeks prior to the start of the elective, he would guarantee me a spot. When I did my rotation, there were 20+ of us, but I still feel like I was able to get an excellent education from the attendings and residents. I had a great time there - lots of procedures, very involved, friendly attendings, sharp residents. The facilities were a bit of a challenge to deal with, but they are opening the new ER very soon.

 

[papichulodoc]

When I worked for FDNY I was in and out of Methodist and Kings County (Downstate) all the time. They both seemed like excellent learning environments. Does anyone know how challenging it would be for me to get an elective rotation at these sites during my 4th year? I am currently a 2nd-year at PCOM.

Also, since I am new at this rotation business, how far in advance should I try to schedule these spots? My first 4th-year elective is at least 2 years away.

Check the school's websites. Most of the electives I applied to give their students first dibs, so most accepted away elective applications only after May 15th for example. Others ask that you send in your application at least 4 weeks before the intended date like NYU.

 

[Handsome Rob]

Does anyone know anything about SUNY Stony Brook? I know it went unfilled last year, but it seems like a good program.

I am a 4th year at SB and did a month sub-i in the ER as well as my required 3rd year clerkship. It is a great program. the residents get along very well, attendings are (almost) universally easy to get along with and into teaching.

SB in halfway done with a total renovation of the ER. They have a brand new trauma wing that is pretty sweet. speaking of trauma, SB sees a LOT. anything nasty that goes down on the LIE gets flown into SB. During my sub-i saw 4-5 major high-speed MVA pts a week.

Residency directors are young and very enthusiastic and very supportive of their residents. hours are fairly cush.

downside: relationship with surgery/ob not always optimal. that and you have to be willing to live on the island.

hope that helps.

 

[APAP]

Does anyone know anything about SUNY Stony Brook? I know it went unfilled last year, but it seems like a good program.

I'm an intern at Stony Brook. It is a great program. The program director and associate program director are both very open to suggestions from residents. They scrapped the pediatric floor month, CCU, and previous trauma rotation (they are setting up a new one) based on resident input (teaching issues, treatment of residents, etc.).

Like any other program there are some attendings you enjoy working with more than others but I enjoy working with almost all of the attendings. There is a lot of blunt trauma thanks to the Long Island Expressway and the fact that SB is a level I trauma center. Ancillary staff is excellent and you will not be putting in IVs, pushing patient stretchers, or getting EKGs--you will be seeing patients. The residents get along well together (maybe because we have days offs--PGY1 18 12hour shifts, PGY2 17 12hour, PGY3 16 12hour per 28day cycle)

I'll have to agree with the other poster from SB that we do not have the best relationship with surgery but most of us do get along fine with OB/GYN and the other services that we consult/interact with.

If anyone has specific questions, feel free to PM me.

 

[castaway]

Hope everyone is enjoying their time on the interview trail. I have been offered an interview at New York Hospital/Queens (and NY Presby also) but cannot find any reviews on this Program on Scutwork.com. Papichulodoc posted a very informative review of his interview experience there. I was wondering if anyone else would care to share their opinion of this Program. I'm really interested because, among other things, it's in Queens (my favorite borough of NYC).

Thanks.

 

[augustsunset]

Both King's County and Methodist are relatively easy to get rotating spots in as a med student--just do it early to get the time period you want, especially for County (late spring of 3rd year is a good time to start setting it up). As I remember, they both charge about $100 and require a bunch of vaccination papers (including random titers of vaccination status) and letters of approval from your Dean. At County, the person in charge of the rotation never answers her phone--but will respond to e-mail/fax. At Methodist, the person in charge has a total attitude problem, but she doesn't work for the ED (name Theresa, in Med Ed office)...once you get through her, everyone in the ED is ridiculously nice, friendly, and helpful (especially Dr. Sharma and Lazarides, the ppl in charge of med student rotators).

When I worked for FDNY I was in and out of Methodist and Kings County (Downstate) all the time. They both seemed like excellent learning environments. Does anyone know how challenging it would be for me to get an elective rotation at these sites during my 4th year? I am currently a 2nd-year at PCOM.

Also, since I am new at this rotation business, how far in advance should I try to schedule these spots? My first 4th-year elective is at least 2 years away.

 

[roja]

I don't know anything first hand. One of our second years is married to a second year that and he loves it. lots of trauma, etc. One of our u/s grads is now u/s director there.

 

[mfleur]

bump

 

[totalbodypain]

I'm at a four year NYC program. If you have any questions you can PM me.

 

[roja]

Plenty of New Yorkers on SDN! Start with the questions!

 

[a_ditchdoc]

Since you invited questions.... 😀

I will be starting my first EM rotation in August at Columbia Presbyterian. If anyone can offer any experiences, insight, or suggestions on the rotation, outside of the obvious, I would be appreciative.

Ditch.

 

[roja]

Unfortunately, someone else is going to have to step up on this one. The program was interviewing its first class when I was interviewed there so there were no residents. I only know what I have heard from people I know who are in residency there, a few attendings I know there and the general talk that goes around the city.

 

[JackBauERfan]

Since you invited questions.... 😀

I will be starting my first EM rotation in August at Columbia Presbyterian. If anyone can offer any experiences, insight, or suggestions on the rotation, outside of the obvious, I would be appreciative.

Ditch.

Unfortunately I can't help you out here, since I won't be starting in NY til next year, but I could not pass over the chance to

POSTPAD.

 

[trkd]

Plenty of New Yorkers on SDN! Start with the questions!

OK, I'll start of a discussion. I have been looking into NY programs. I am not really a city person (grew up in one but sick of them) but there are some reasons why NY is a good option for me. And there are tons of options with respect to programs. My main concerns are about being able to have a car (to drive to see family within a few hrs drive) and have a decent place for my dogs (maybe even a small yard 😳 ). Is this totally not feasible? I have looked at some programs I like on the outskirts of overcrowding (or what appear to be based on my poor knowledge of NY) like those in Long Island, etc. Do I have to live and commute 40 minutes to have this? I hate big commutes. If it is as awful as I think, I am inclined towards other areas in order to have a decent, non-city type of lifestyle.

Any comments are very much appreciated.

 

[roja]

Well, in manhattan people definately have cars but it is definately city life. Many people have dogs and there are tons of dog parks.

There are programs in the burroughs (brooklyn, queens) where it is more feasable to have what you are looking for. Long island is definately a nice option. (eg Stony brook, North Shore) where you can live a fairly suburban lifestyle but still be very near NYC without being IN nyc.

So, if you are totally off living in a big city, I wouldn't recommend manhattan programs. However, the brooklyn/queens/LI programs are ones you might want to look into. There are some great programs out there.

 

[trkd]

Well, in manhattan people definately have cars but it is definately city life. Many people have dogs and there are tons of dog parks.

There are programs in the burroughs (brooklyn, queens) where it is more feasable to have what you are looking for. Long island is definately a nice option. (eg Stony brook, North Shore) where you can live a fairly suburban lifestyle but still be very near NYC without being IN nyc.

So, if you are totally off living in a big city, I wouldn't recommend manhattan programs. However, the brooklyn/queens/LI programs are ones you might want to look into. There are some great programs out there.

Thanks roja, that's the kind of info I am looking for. 👍

 

[Hard24Get]

OK, I'll start of a discussion. I have been looking into NY programs. I am not really a city person (grew up in one but sick of them) but there are some reasons why NY is a good option for me. And there are tons of options with respect to programs. My main concerns are about being able to have a car (to drive to see family within a few hrs drive) and have a decent place for my dogs (maybe even a small yard 😳 ). Is this totally not feasible? I have looked at some programs I like on the outskirts of overcrowding (or what appear to be based on my poor knowledge of NY) like those in Long Island, etc. Do I have to live and commute 40 minutes to have this? I hate big commutes. If it is as awful as I think, I am inclined towards other areas in order to have a decent, non-city type of lifestyle.

Any comments are very much appreciated.

Is that little puppy in your avatar one of your dogs? Aww...
What's wrong with upstate/rural NY?

 

[DOnut]

OK, I'll start of a discussion. I have been looking into NY programs. I am not really a city person (grew up in one but sick of them) but there are some reasons why NY is a good option for me. And there are tons of options with respect to programs. My main concerns are about being able to have a car (to drive to see family within a few hrs drive) and have a decent place for my dogs (maybe even a small yard 😳 ). Is this totally not feasible? I have looked at some programs I like on the outskirts of overcrowding (or what appear to be based on my poor knowledge of NY) like those in Long Island, etc. Do I have to live and commute 40 minutes to have this? I hate big commutes. If it is as awful as I think, I am inclined towards other areas in order to have a decent, non-city type of lifestyle.

Any comments are very much appreciated.

Hey trkd,

I just moved from NYC so I can definitely answer your question. If you are looking to drive to the city (manhattan) from Long Island everyday, you are looking at minimum 1 hour commute during rush hour. Even If you take the LIRR (Long Island Railroad) it will still be at least an hour. You can have a nice apartment with a little yard for your dog, but you will pay big for it. I think you should definitely check out upstate NY. There are some great programs up here, great acuity and trauma. Most residents buy a home up here, but even if you rent, you can get a great place for cheap. I was paying $1260 for a nice studio in NY, but in Syracuse I got a beautiful 3 bedroom townhouse for $745/month. I mean hey, the city life is great if thats what you want, but if you don't want the city traffic, try upstate.

 

[mamitch4]

Can anybody comment on the upstate programs?

 

[trkd]

Is that little puppy in your avatar one of your dogs? Aww...
What's wrong with upstate/rural NY?

I wish that were my dog! Cutest thing ever. No, my dogs are usually strays... but still totally lovely and cute (just not as cute as the avatar)!

Anyway, before I hijack the thread and make it a cutest dogs thread....

Nothing wrong with rural or upstate, just that my sign. other needs a place to match a year after me. Closer to the city provides more options. That's all. Otherwise, would love to be away from the traffic.

 

[trkd]

Hey trkd,

I just moved from NYC so I can definitely answer your question. If you are looking to drive to the city (manhattan) from Long Island everyday, you are looking at minimum 1 hour commute during rush hour. Even If you take the LIRR (Long Island Railroad) it will still be at least an hour. You can have a nice apartment with a little yard for your dog, but you will pay big for it. I think you should definitely check out upstate NY. There are some great programs up here, great acuity and trauma. Most residents buy a home up here, but even if you rent, you can get a great place for cheap. I was paying $1260 for a nice studio in NY, but in Syracuse I got a beautiful 3 bedroom townhouse for $745/month. I mean hey, the city life is great if thats what you want, but if you don't want the city traffic, try upstate.

Interesting. Well, if anything, I could always consider the long island programs as well. Thanks for the input.

 

[BklynWill]

update: I managed to secure that third-year elective at Methodist 👍
I'm really excited about this one...