Newbie to DO. Please Help.

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I know this has probably been asked before, but what exactly are some significant differences between a DO and MD? I'm not trying to start a heated debate as to which is better. I just want to know the differences in schooling, residencies, where people can work and what the differences are in ciriculum. Thank you so much! Any links to useful sites would also be appreciated.
 
look into stickies...they have a lot info and links that are useful🙂
 

Thanks for the info. As an aside, almost all these schoo sites mention a "strong dedication to osteopathic medicine". Can someone further elaborate please? Does this basically mean that you shadowed specifically DO or volunteered in a DO clinic? This just seems more difficult to accomplish considering there are less DO's than MD. Correct me if I am wrong.
 
Thanks for the info. As an aside, almost all these schoo [sic] sites mention a "strong dedication to osteopathic medicine". Can someone further elaborate please? Does this basically mean that you shadowed specifically DO or volunteered in a DO clinic? This just seems more difficult to accomplish considering there are less DO's than MD. Correct me if I am wrong.

Well, my imagination is that they want to be reasonably sure that you actually want to be a DO and can appreciate the history and elements of osteopathic principles and practices. This is to your best interest as well. Thus, you should be reasonably familiar with these things and be able to demonstrate your interest and knowledge. Yes, shadowing a DO (and getting a LOR from one) is of benefit to that cause, along with having researched, and developed a decent understanding, of the osteopathic tradition; heck, if you can observe OMT, all the better. It's true that there are fewer DO's, but finding one to shadow is not as difficult as you might imagine, although, I'm sure it's also location-dependent. The FAQ provides some useful starting points.
 
Well, my imagination is that they want to be reasonably sure that you actually want to be a DO and can appreciate the history and elements of osteopathic principles and practices. This is to your best interest as well. Thus, you should be reasonably familiar with these things and be able to demonstrate your interest and knowledge. Yes, shadowing a DO (and getting a LOR from one) is of benefit in this area, along with appreciable research, and a decent understanding, of the osteopathic tradition; heck, if you can observe OMT, all the better. It's true that there are fewer DO's, but finding one to shadow is not as difficult as you might imagine, although, I'm sure it's also location-dependent. The FAQ provides some useful starting points.

Awesome. That is an OMT?
 
Awesome. That is an OMT?

OMT, or osteopathic manipulative treatment, is an additional modality that DO's can use to diagnose and treat certain conditions in conjunction with other medical interventions. It is one of the early foundational elements of osteopathic medicine. Early in it's history, when all Western medicine was in flux and somewhat crude, osteopathy, which included, principally, manipulative interventions, was Dr. A. T. Still's answer to the issues he encountered in mainstream medicine. He believed in the body's innate ability to heal itself, took on a more preventive approach to care, believed in the correlation between structure and function, and focused on the neuromusculoskeletal system as a centerpiece. There were a lot of divergent factions in medicine during that time, and osteopathy was one of them. However, as medicine evolved to include the use of truly effective and less dangerous medications and interventions and toward the use of advanced diagnostic studies and imagining technology, osteopathic medicine evolved as well, to include these elements, while most other factions faded into obscurity. Now, Western medicine has converged into the current evidenced-based model that we appreciate and accept.

Now-a-days, in practice, osteopathic physicians are essentially indistinguishable from their allopathic counterparts. Both practice to the same standard of care and use the same baseline methods and approach. However, osteopathic physicians are additionally trained in osteopathic principles and practices, which include OMT. This doesn't mean that DO's necessarily use OMT in their practice, but they are trained in its use during medical school.
 
This doesn't mean that DO's necessarily use OMT in their practice, but they are trained in its use during medical school.

sorry ive never understood this. if the vast majority never use OMT, then what was the reason of learning it in the first place? i always thought this was the defining element that separated osteopaths and allopaths..the "extra" as many people call it. isnt there some stat out there that states only about 1% of DOs actually use OMT in their practice.
 
sorry ive never understood this. if the vast majority never use OMT, then what was the reason of learning it in the first place? i always thought this was the defining element that separated osteopaths and allopaths..the "extra" as many people call it. isnt there some stat out there that states only about 1% of DOs actually use OMT in their practice.

I beg your pardon, but I am not really the right person to ask that question. I am going to be a first-year student this Fall, so I don't have enough experience and knowledge to answer your question intelligently. I'm thinking that someone more advanced than me can address it better than me with something other than hearsay and conjecture.

Suffice it to say that OMT is but one element in the historical tradition of osteopathic medicine (1); it is alone insufficient, I think, to define the tradition (1), although some could, and would, argue this particular point quite vigorously. I mentioned some of the other foundational elements to osteopathic medicine in a prior post. OMT was a major element a long time ago, but it's role has since diminished through the years due to the evolution of medicine in general. There is but one commonly accepted practice of Western medicine and one common standard of care; it is the familiar evidence-based one that we appreciate.

To this day, while osteopathic medicine has evolved to the point where, in practice, it is nearly indistinguishable from it's allopathic counterpart, it still teaches it's historical foundations, where relevant, to it's students. OMT can be an effective treatment modality when used in conjunction with other medical interventions, such as when used to treat musculoskeletal issues, used to aid in surgical recovery, and used in pain management, as some basic examples. Some suggest that it is an overemphasized component in osteopathic medicine today (1). I don't know enough to comment on that. I do think it is underutilized; the reasons why are arguable and unclear, at least to me. As with any manual intervention, proficiency and mastery comes with frequent use; disuse often results in loss in proficiency. This loss in proficiency can result in further disuse and so forth. Eventually, I think many DO's forget that it can be a useful modality where it is indicated. That is one of the issues here. Other DO's may have never really liked the idea of OMT in the first place and so never use it for that reason. There may be other elements which impact the use of OMT as a treatment modality, such as an osteopathic physician's chosen field of specialty, participation in allopathic residencies, and perhaps also due to the protracted nature of our current health care system, which has gradually diminished the importance of the therapeutic relationship between doctor and patient in favor of business principles and practices. I think this last point is all the more reason to reinforce the principles of sound patient care.

Anyway, I think manual medicine is fast becoming a lost art. I think it is very basic medicine. I want to learn it and develop some level of mastery over it. I hope to use it in my practice. That's all I can say as of now.

I'm afraid I've taken this thread too far off-topic. I don't want this to turn into something it isn't, if it hasn't already. :hijacked:
 
It took too long to be highjacked if you ask me
 
sorry ive never understood this. if the vast majority never use OMT, then what was the reason of learning it in the first place? i always thought this was the defining element that separated osteopaths and allopaths..the "extra" as many people call it. isnt there some stat out there that states only about 1% of DOs actually use OMT in their practice.

I've heard numbers ranging from 5%-20%. Its still around b/c it has been proven to be effective and it is the main medical modality that distinguishes DO from MDs. One can speculate why the numbers are so low, some reasons include: 1) Many DO students enter allopathic reisdencies where OMT is not reinforced so they don't feel comfortable using it later, 2) Certain specialties don't lend themselves well to the use of OMT and 40% of DOs go into specialties, 3) Some students attend DO school after being rejected from allopathic institutions and may not be interested in learning and practicing OMT in the first place.

OP: Shadowing a DO is strongly recommended for two reason: 1) It allows you to learn about the profession and you'll have someone to answer the questions you may have, 2) Many schools require/strongly recommend a DO LOR (due to reason #1).

If you want a more in depth account of Osteopathic Medicine here are two good books:

1) The DOs: Osteopathic Medicine in America, by Norman Gevitz
This is the classic most people read, its more historical than philisophy

2) Osteopathic Medicine: A Reformation in Progress, by Gallegher and Humphrey.
This one's a shorter collection of essays. More philosophy than history but reflects a more hardline/old guard view of osteopathy that's not necessarily shared by everyone.
 
sorry ive never understood this. if the vast majority never use OMT, then what was the reason of learning it in the first place? i always thought this was the defining element that separated osteopaths and allopaths..the "extra" as many people call it. isnt there some stat out there that states only about 1% of DOs actually use OMT in their practice.

In light of managed care, there generally is not enough time to perform OMT on every patient. A good session takes about 40 minutes - an eternity when your clinic expects you to see one patient every 15 minutes. Also, OMT takes practice and you have to have the knack for it, you also have to enjoy doing it and believe that it works. Patients love it but you can't fake not knowing how to do it. Yes, it is extra. I just finished my intern year. Only 2 of us out of 12 used OMT regularly. Curious, we both came from the same school. OMT emphasis varies from school to school and depends on how much you get trained in it and how much the faculty actually uses it too. I went to a school where OMT is very much drilled into us and we practice it a lot. All of the profs use it in their offices and many of them only do OMT in the office - no drugs, no scripts. It is also true that many people go to DO school because they couldn't get into MD school. Those folks are just looking for the degree, not really learning the art. Hope that helps.
 
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