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I'm starting intern year with night float. 🙂 excited but nervous!

I have never done night float of any sort so I'm wondering if there are specific things I should know about how it will be different, any advice, things to do/not to do, etc. I'm just starting out, so even basic pieces of advice would be helpful. Thanks so much in advance!!
 
I think I have during my night float during my second month.

My residents from my medicine rotation advised me of obvious things, but hey, we all lose common sense sometimes: be calm and always ask for vitals.

I can't believe July 1st is coming up so soon. Ack!
 
I knowww!! I'm starting to get anxiety..

I think the main thing is because I have never done night float I really don't have a good sense of how it works and what a typical night would be like? At least with the wards, I have seen it and been part of it and just have a better sense of things, you know?
 
I knowww!! I'm starting to get anxiety..

I think the main thing is because I have never done night float I really don't have a good sense of how it works and what a typical night would be like? At least with the wards, I have seen it and been part of it and just have a better sense of things, you know?

It's basically the same thing. Only with more cross cover and (hopefully) fewer admits. You'll be the first call for every IM team in the hospital so your patient load can be as high as 40-50 patients.

It will depend on the setup and culture of your institution and team. If you have 2 interns and a senior, one intern may do admits while the other does cross cover. Some places will have the intern cross-cover while the resident does admits while at others, the intern does everything while the resident reads Facebook.
 
Do you try to preemptively see patients that look sick on your list early in the evening at all? Like do "mini rounds" just to eye ball people or no?
 
It's basically the same thing. Only with more cross cover and (hopefully) fewer admits. You'll be the first call for every IM team in the hospital so your patient load can be as high as 40-50 patients.

It will depend on the setup and culture of your institution and team. If you have 2 interns and a senior, one intern may do admits while the other does cross cover. Some places will have the intern cross-cover while the resident does admits while at others, the intern does everything while the resident reads Facebook.

the way God intended
 
Do you try to preemptively see patients that look sick on your list early in the evening at all? Like do "mini rounds" just to eye ball people or no?

That would actually be a good idea.

As to your OP, I think you've got some legitimate "fears" and concerns, though it would be pretty difficult to come up with an exhaustive list of dos don'ts. The mere fact that your program has decide you should start on night-float probably speaks to the fact that they assume you can handle this, even in July. All you can really do is show up and be present. Ask questions. As a supervisor is July you expect to be asked questions, lots and lots of question, in fact, if I'm not being asked questions, I'm worried.
 
jdh71,
Thanks!! Any list of dos/donts even if they sound like no-brainers would be helpful! If anything just to calm my anxiety...🙁 Are there things that recurrently come up that people have the tendency to not know or typically make a mistake about?
 
It's basically the same thing. Only with more cross cover and (hopefully) fewer admits. You'll be the first call for every IM team in the hospital so your patient load can be as high as 40-50 patients.

It will depend on the setup and culture of your institution and team. If you have 2 interns and a senior, one intern may do admits while the other does cross cover. Some places will have the intern cross-cover while the resident does admits while at others, the intern does everything while the resident reads Facebook.

the way God intended

:laugh::laugh:


Some places will have the intern cross-cover while the resident does admits

This is how my program did it. NF resident is crazy busy all night, interns sort of have a fun 2 weeks of bonding time.

I guess my BIGGEST piece of advice for interns on night float is, if a nurse calls you about a patient, if the situation is not totally obvious (as in you didn't just see the patient like 3 times in the past 2 hours and it's the same story again, or if its' just a med rec issue or something like that) always go at least eyeball the patient. At the very least, if the patient is a-ok, the nurse will be reassured that the doctor showed up to address his/her concern. At most, you will arrive and realize things are a lot more grave than even the nurse suspected. You always get a clearer picture when you see it with your own eyes.
 
That would actually be a good idea.

As to your OP, I think you've got some legitimate "fears" and concerns, though it would be pretty difficult to come up with an exhaustive list of dos don'ts. The mere fact that your program has decide you should start on night-float probably speaks to the fact that they assume you can handle this, even in July. All you can really do is show up and be present. Ask questions. As a supervisor is July you expect to be asked questions, lots and lots of question, in fact, if I'm not being asked questions, I'm worried.

This is all great advice, future interns. listen to jdh. 👍
 
Do you try to preemptively see patients that look sick on your list early in the evening at all? Like do "mini rounds" just to eye ball people or no?

Sure, that's a GREAT idea...

That way, you sort of have a relative "baseline" to compare to should they take a turn for the worse during the night.

Also, it's always better to pre-empt codes than letting things progress to a critical point. Better for the patient's survival not to mention for your own psyche. So check the impending-ICU-like patients early on, in the middle of the night, and every time you happen to be near their room (for whatever other reasons), if not more often if you have time.
 
I guess my BIGGEST piece of advice for interns on night float is, if a nurse calls you about a patient, if the situation is not totally obvious (as in you didn't just see the patient like 3 times in the past 2 hours and it's the same story again, or if its' just a med rec issue or something like that) always go at least eyeball the patient. At the very least, if the patient is a-ok, the nurse will be reassured that the doctor showed up to address his/her concern. At most, you will arrive and realize things are a lot more grave than even the nurse suspected. You always get a clearer picture when you see it with your own eyes.

Additionally, a reputation as a physician who is responsive to nursing concerns (even if seemingly overly sensitive) is gold for the future. Establishing that reputation early will repay itself in spades.
I try my best, unless absolutely slammed beyond ability to function (paged every minute or multiple at once), to respond in person to concerns and discuss it with RN staff as much as possible. Not saying I always pull through, but I do the best I can.
It is one of the best pieces of advice I can give. You pick up on subtleties of the patient's condition, establish a baseline for a potential next concern, and when word gets around that you are responsive and responsible, things move more smoothly for you and your patients.
 
All this advice stating "go and see every patient" when called. Good luck with that. Sure, MAYBE the first night or two to simply get a handle on the layout of the floors. Respond in person to EVERY call? LOL! Soon you'll be the floor nurses beeatch and in turn paged for EVERYTHING. "Mini-rounds" on other teams patients? Are you ****ting me? The onus is on the PRIMARY TEAM to make sure their patients are well tucked in. ****, if a patient is an impending ICU transfer, the primary team should still be in house if they're worth a ****. Press the primary teams for GOOD, COMPLETE signout.

Man up. Use your judgement (it, in part, graduated your ass from medical school). Altered mental status, bleeds, chest pain, hypotension, tachycardia, SOB, fever, low UOP, etc.: go see the patient. Constipation, most c/o minor pain, sleepers, etc: verbal orders OK.

Best advice: USE YOUR SENIOR. For everything. Really.

You'll catch on soon enough, trust me. Been in your shoes this time last year. You'll be fine. You don't think so, but you will. This time next year you'll be giving this same advice.
 
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Altered mental status, bleeds, chest pain, hypotension, tachycardia, SOB, fever, low UOP, etc.: go see the patient. Constipation, most c/o minor pain, sleepers, etc: verbal orders OK.

Best advice: USE YOUR SENIOR. For everything. Really.

I'll agree with this, should have qualified my above statement. Simple stuff, just order it. I meant, but didn't say that.
And yes, without question, you should use your senior. That's what they're there for, to help you and be sure you're learning and provide safety for you and the patients.
If you don't tell us, we won't know.
 
Thanks so much for the replies everyone! I'm sure a year from now this will all be "common sense" but right now since I'm lacking in experience, it is not.

So general consensus, go see as many of the patients as you possibly can when you are called. I guess I am wondering, when the night starts out do people just typically wait to be paged. I know there was mixed opinion above about proactivally going and seeing patients that seemed ill - for those that do this, i'm assuming you start the night out doing this and typically how long do you spend seeing each one? I'm assuming you just try to "eye-ball" and make sure everything is okay?

Also, I know we are supposed to rely on our seniors, but does it ever get to a point when you are just asking too many questions and running too many things by the senior? Its going to be july, my first rotation and i'm sure my first instinct will be to want to at least TELL my senior about almost everything I want to order or do in regards to a patient etc etc. just to make sure i'm not making some kind of egregious error. Is this unreasonable?
 
I know there was mixed opinion above about proactivally going and seeing patients that seemed ill - for those that do this, i'm assuming you start the night out doing this and typically how long do you spend seeing each one? I'm assuming you just try to "eye-ball" and make sure everything is okay?

Totally up to you and depends on where you are. If you're doing wards NF, probably not necessary unless somebody is actively crumping. Doing ICU NF? Then go see everyone, at least do ortho rounds on them.

Also, If your NF is anything like mine, there will probably be 6 admits waiting for you when you get there because the on-call team capped at 2pm. So you'll have plenty of other stuff to do besides wander around and see the 40-60 patients you're cross-covering.

Also, I know we are supposed to rely on our seniors, but does it ever get to a point when you are just asking too many questions and running too many things by the senior? Its going to be july, my first rotation and i'm sure my first instinct will be to want to at least TELL my senior about almost everything I want to order or do in regards to a patient etc etc. just to make sure i'm not making some kind of egregious error. Is this unreasonable?

You will get in WAAAAYYYY more trouble for not telling your senior about something than you will for telling them. They don't need to know about every call for more narcs for chronic back pain or a bowel regimen or whatever. But you should probably give them a heads-up about most things, at least in the beginning.
 
Thanks so much for the replies everyone! I'm sure a year from now this will all be "common sense" but right now since I'm lacking in experience, it is not.

So general consensus, go see as many of the patients as you possibly can when you are called. I guess I am wondering, when the night starts out do people just typically wait to be paged. I know there was mixed opinion above about proactivally going and seeing patients that seemed ill - for those that do this, i'm assuming you start the night out doing this and typically how long do you spend seeing each one? I'm assuming you just try to "eye-ball" and make sure everything is okay?

Also, I know we are supposed to rely on our seniors, but does it ever get to a point when you are just asking too many questions and running too many things by the senior? Its going to be july, my first rotation and i'm sure my first instinct will be to want to at least TELL my senior about almost everything I want to order or do in regards to a patient etc etc. just to make sure i'm not making some kind of egregious error. Is this unreasonable?

Look at your list, when you get it and decide, "Who do I think is sick?" Don't go an look in on everyone most of your list will be fine, but this will help you get in the practice of knowing how to identify someone's likely acuity off the list. Stop by and check on that patient. You don't have to even go in the room, but review the latest vitals, labs, ask the nurse how he's doing and if she needs anything or has any concerns. This will pay off in spades.

July is a month for finding out what to run by your senior and what maybe you should not. We are ok with this. We know this is part of the process and probably all of us would prefer, especially the first few days that you run EVERYTHING by us, at least the first time. Asking the same question more than once or twice is probably something you no longer need to do. If we've talked about a situation and you feel like your new situation mirrors the other situation, make a decision. If you don't know if you should, ask if you should ask. 😀

In the first few weeks you should definitely run things like: all vital sign abnormalities past the senior, especially hypoxia and hypotension, any chest pain, any SOB, any altered mental status/deliruim, any neurological deficits, any falls, any bleeding from anywhere, any scans you might want (you can safely order portable xrays - someone may laugh at an overreaction, but no one will yell at you), or any changes in fluid management.

Some other things to remember:
  • There is simply no reason to order any non-home med NSAID on a patient in the hospital. If they are on it because primary team put them on it when they came in fine, don't order it yourself, use tylenol for pain, and then opioids as appropriate if that doesn't work
  • Zofran (ondansetron) is your buddy. It's not penultimate in nausea medications but it works almost all of the time and it's safe. Honestly, I can't think of a single situation off the top of my head right now when you wouldn't give it outside of a known history of allergic reaction to it. You can order it over the phone and then go see the patient to make sure you don't think something scary is causing the nausea (as you move along in the year, you will know when it's scary nausea and when it's not and won't have to see everyone)
  • Benedryl sucks for sleep and it can make old people crazy, don't use it. Let younger people have an ambien or a lunesta. Give older folks seroquel.
  • Don't EVER sedate delirium with benzos, UNLESS you know you're dealing with EtOH withdrawal. Delirium REQUIRES a work-up, even if all it is, is going over the labs and meds. Sedate delirium with antipsychotics. I like haldol, some hospitals are nervous about haldol. If they'll take a pill seroquel. If can't swallow and can't use IV/IM haldol, use zyprexa IM. DO NOT USE geodon (ziprasidone) to acutely treat delirium - all antipsychotics mess with QTc, geodon's influence there can be scary. Let me underline again: do not throw antipsychotics at delirium without a workup - document it, even if all you did was go over the labs and meds.
  • Patients who can't poop can be a pain in the ass. If they are on opioids they should be on a stool softener at minimum. You can order a senna-DS which softens and stimulates. If they want a duece NOW, I like to ask them if they mind a suppository, if they don't mind ducolax (bisacodyl) works MOST of the time. If they don't want a suppository, I've grown found of lactulose which is what I like to use (if you can give it to liver patients, you can give it to anyone).
 
All this advice stating "go and see every patient" when called. Good luck with that. Sure, MAYBE the first night or two to simply get a handle on the layout of the floors. Respond in person to EVERY call? LOL! Soon you'll be the floor nurses beeatch and in turn paged for EVERYTHING.

Whoa, whoa there, Jeroboam... I did NOT say "go and see every patient." I said, if the nurse calls with a concern and the situation is not crystal clear, go see the patient. Obviously one of the skills to learn as an intern, also, is how to triage your pages if you are bombarded with them. My advice was directed at a completely green intern starting out on night float. By the time one is an upper level resident or even late in intern year, one can start being a bit more liberal about things.

Jeroboam said:
"Mini-rounds" on other teams patients? Are you ****ting me? The onus is on the PRIMARY TEAM to make sure their patients are well tucked in. ****, if a patient is an impending ICU transfer, the primary team should still be in house if they're worth a ****. Press the primary teams for GOOD, COMPLETE signout.

AGAIN, Jeroboam, you are jumping to conclusion on what we have said. Never said go do rounds on your signout list. And obviously if there is an impending code on a patient, the primary team should still be in house taking care of it, i mean that's ridiculously obvious. What I was referring to are patients that the primary team has signed out to you are the sickest patients on the service that, though currently stable, COULD take a turn for the worse overnight, patients who are tenuous. Should not be more than 2-3 patients per team. The point is, like I said, to pre-empt codes. Of course if you prefer sitting on your laurels until someone is already coding, I guess that's your practice style. I prefer avoiding codes--in the long run it's actually easier.


Jeroboam said:
Man up. Use your judgement (it, in part, graduated your ass from medical school). Altered mental status, bleeds, chest pain, hypotension, tachycardia, SOB, fever, low UOP, etc.: go see the patient. Constipation, most c/o minor pain, sleepers, etc: verbal orders OK.

I mean that's obvious. The situation epiphany and I were referring to arises when you are getting vague or ambiguous information from a concerned nurse and need more information to made a judgement call. And if one is a new intern, my point was to err on the side of going to at least eyeball the patient. Does not have to be a full H&P or even an abridged one. Even just laying your eyes on the patient can give you lots of info and clarify things.

Jeroboam said:
Best advice: USE YOUR SENIOR. For everything. Really.

Sure, I totally agree. Depending on where the intern is going to be training, the senior may be 100x busier, doing admits and supervising an overnight call intern, so may be spread thin. Nevertheless, if in doubt about anything, never hesitate to run things by the senior. It's a given, no matter what point you are at in your intern year.
 
this probably echos what others have already said... but when getting sign out, DO ASK specific questions. if you're getting sign out from another intern on day 1, chances are they're as clueless as you are.

i found that residents would often sign things out like "there's a pm cbc and lytes" ....
and then move on. so great? what do you do with that data?
or "follow up this CXR" . "f/u this CT scan" ok.... does it change management? why are we scanning this dude's head? what are we tryin to rule out/rule in?
DO NOT let anyone sign you out bull**** work they didn't do during the day.
often times people will not explain things to you unless you ask. ask ask ask. dont worry about being annoying. you dont know what you're doing.

the other thing that no one explained to me was who to call for what. who is my first back up resident? touch base with them when u get there...make sure u have their pager #. make sure u know how to PAGE lol. sounds stupid, but my hospital had a computer based paging system that you needed to learn how to use.

one more nugget of advice. often times pt's families will come at night, and then they'll ask to speak to the dr. instead of showing up and appearing like a ***** cuz u have NO idea wtf is going on with the pt, just walk in and start by saying "hi im dr so and so, im the covering dr tonight and i may not be able to answer very specific questions about ur loved one". cut them off before they hound u with questions.
i always found this super annoying and it ALWAYS happens.
 
this probably echos what others have already said... but when getting sign out, DO ASK specific questions. if you're getting sign out from another intern on day 1, chances are they're as clueless as you are.

i found that residents would often sign things out like "there's a pm cbc and lytes" ....
and then move on. so great? what do you do with that data?
or "follow up this CXR" . "f/u this CT scan" ok.... does it change management? why are we scanning this dude's head? what are we tryin to rule out/rule in?
DO NOT let anyone sign you out bull**** work they didn't do during the day.
often times people will not explain things to you unless you ask. ask ask ask. dont worry about being annoying. you dont know what you're doing.

I'm perfectly OK with people signing out follow-up studies for me to deal with (especially since I'm getting paid as a moonlighter to deal with them now), but only if they include an if/then statement.

I'll look at any CBC, look at films then call rads to get a semi-official CT read, check I/O at midnight, etc. But ONLY IF you tell me why you ordered the study in the first place and what you want done with the result.

So when your colleague asks you to check the 2000 BMP, find out what they're concerned about (rising Cr, Hypo/Hyper Na/K, etc, and what they want management-wise. Sure, this will be a total clusterf*** in July but it will (it must) get better soon.
 
I found it helpful to ask the primary team which patients on the list are very sick/ likely to crash. As for having the primary team sign out stupid #*$? There are certain residents/ interns known for that and there's really nothing you can do about it. Luckily that's the exception. If you have to follow up a CBC on a patient and the primary team indicates "transfuse if hemoglobin below such and such" ask if the consent has already been done. It's a huge waste of your time to end up doing a consent at 1 am when you're cross covering 69 other patients and expected to do admissions. The worst is when you're signed out to follow up a CT scan and you find out that the patient is unstable and you have to accompany him/her to the scanner.

My program could be very difficult sometimes- I'd be covering up to 70 patients- and expected to do a couple admissions. It's tough with your pager going off literally every 5 minutes. So, when did the chest pain start (beep beep)- goes to answer page, comes back, OK, where were we (beep beep) goes to answer page, comes back....

If a nurse calls you about a patient, even if you see the patient, check the nurse's notes. More than a few times I've had notes that indicate that I was called but did not see the patient, when I have, in fact, seen the patient I was called about. Make sure you document! (I always do and it's saved me).
 
If you have to follow up a CBC on a patient and the primary team indicates "transfuse if hemoglobin below such and such" ask if the consent has already been done.

👍 good advice!
eforest said:
If a nurse calls you about a patient, even if you see the patient, check the nurse's notes. More than a few times I've had notes that indicate that I was called but did not see the patient, when I have, in fact, seen the patient I was called about. Make sure you document! (I always do and it's saved me).

KEY!!!

Dont just do it on NF... this happened to me in the ICU as an intern. The nurse PREEMPTIVELY wrote in the computerized record that she called me and no action was taken, before she even called me!! I discovered the note as I was doing follow-up myself, she was in a code, came out and I asked her when she was going to call me about it... She said "oh yeah i was about to call you, and then this other patient crashed." So why the hell did you document that you called me and that I took no action???!!!!!😡

I ended up writing a formal letter about it, i showed it to the nurse manager, my attendings and sent a hard copy to my chief resident. The nurse manager and my attendings on the service were worried sick that i was going to send it to the higher ups and that she was going to get fired, but I actually had no plans to do so (maybe I should have--what she did could have resulted in harm to the patient).
 
1) When you return a page, make the nurse wait until you've found the patient in the EMR and on your paper sign out (if you have one.) I guarantee that 9 times out of ten, you will have waited longer on hold for the nurse (after immediately returning their page) than it takes you to find the patient, so don't feel bad about wasting their time. Even if it's a "simple question" there's a reason the primary team bothered to put all that info on their sign-out, (hopefully) and you want access to it before answering the question.

2) Once you've found the patient, ask the nurse for a complete set of vitals. (Unless it's a question about reordering a home med or something) I guarantee you they will call with one abnormal vital or other complaint, but will not have all the info for you. You need all the info, and making them get it (Look it up, or actually go get it in the more egregious situations) gives you time to read the signouts you've just found. Now you know what's actually going on, overall, with the patient, and you're much better able to answer questions.

i found that residents would often sign things out like "there's a pm cbc and lytes" ....
and then move on. so great? what do you do with that data?
or "follow up this CXR" . "f/u this CT scan" ok.... does it change management? why are we scanning this dude's head? what are we tryin to rule out/rule in?
DO NOT let anyone sign you out bull**** work they didn't do during the day.
often times people will not explain things to you unless you ask. ask ask ask. dont worry about being annoying. you dont know what you're doing.

I second and third Reovlution and GlutonNC's comments on this. Unless there's an action item, people shouldn't be ordering things (labs) or asking you to follow up on them (imaging) overnight. If there is an action item, you want to know what it is, and what the general plan is.

If you're in a hospital with and EMR and the ability to "alert" labs to yourself (a VAMC, perchance?) learn how to do this, so that rather than going through 6 sheets of sign outs every 2 hours looking for labs you were supposed to check, they just pop up as they are resulted. You still need to go through the sign outs periodically to make sure the labs have been drawn and sent (VAMC?) and call and harass someone if they're way overdue, but this tip will save you many minutes of finding and checking patient charts, I promise.

Of course, I agree with the above advice about asking your senior (everything for the first few days, then anything you're not sure of, but not the same simple question repeatedly.) I also agree with the comment on Benzos (rarely useful, except ETOH withdrawal), benadryl for old people (Though the other sleep aids are not fool-proof in this age group either), and lactulose. (Though I must admit, I didn't give much for constipation on night-float, it's more of a daytime problem.)

I would also caution you about fluid status and urine output - you want to make sure you have the whole story before ordering boluses OR lasix overnight. Give the day team the benefit of the doubt that they know what they're doing, and if something has changed, thoroughly reassess it. Sometimes people don't pee because they're asleep, but otherwise, you may need to do an in-person assessment of the patient, because even with accurate vitals, you can't rely on getting the whole story from the nurse.

Finally, I totally agree with writing a note. If you see the patient, order imaging (in which case you should probably be seeing the patient before or after the order) add anything other than a routine med (or stop something), or make any other major change to the plan you need to document why in a brief SOAP note. The day team will thank you (literally) and you've CYAd. I was thanked by attendings multiple times on each night-float block for simple, brief notes that explained the info I had, my assessment, and what I did. It's good patient care, but if that doesn't inspire you, let the opinion of your staff doctors motivate you.

Oh, and finally, finally, Buffy is on FX at 6 AM by which time things have usually quieted down, and if you're lucky, you can get a breakfast sandwich during the mid-hour commercial break. Good luck everyone!
 
Oh, yeah, and BE NICE TO THE NURSES. Even if you think their question is the most ridiculous one ever, be polite, humble, and try to answer it. If you're starting with night float, you have the unique opportunity to have nurses on all the wards at a given hospital liking you (and thus helping you) whenever you end up back there. Do what you need to do ranting-wise behind closed doors to your colleagues, significant others, and at the post-night-float Sunday brunch, but do not be rude or short with the nurses. They will love or hate you for 3 years, and it only takes a little bit of self-censorship and turning the other cheek to have them on your side.
 
Don't know if anyone had said this yet but- if someone dies, call their attending if nothing more than to give a heads up.

If you don't feel like you've gotten enough info on signout, ask for more. Some people might get a little tude but they can suck it up- you are covering their patients so they can go home and sleep and have some semblance of a life. Ask each team to tell you who their sickest/most unstable patient(s) are. You might not be able to go through 40 patient EMRs but you can look through 5 of your most likely to have issues overnight. Remember the golden rule. Always changeover to someone else how you would want them to changeover to you, and always tuck in your patients as best you can because one day you will be the one crosscovering.
 
very excellent advice given by both witchbaby (both posts) and Mattchiavelli. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
 
I just thought of this . . . answer odd phone numbers that show up on your pager No one changes their cell phone numbers these days, and it's probably a resident trying to get you to call them back on their cell phone.
 
My advice is be nice to the nurses, and always try to sound verbally pleasant over the phone, no matter what you are called about. Don't ever show your frustration to anyone at work. Smile a lot at the attendings and nurses. If you aren't naturally outgoing or gregarious, this may feel fake to you, but do it anyway. That's the "political advice".

The advice about how to deliver good medical care"
-"always see the patient" is something that program directors and attendings will always say to you, but that you may not be able to do if you are super busy. You should go and see them if the nurse sounds really nervous, or if the patient is sick.
-get "Pocket Medicine" because it's a good book you can actually carry around in your white coat that will tell you how to work up a lot of medical problems
-I agree with the advice above about "getting a good signout". Sometimes people won't tell you all the relevant issues, so if a patient sounds sick, you may need to ask for more information.
 
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