No Credit for a A/B/C/NC class

[Mfrauer]

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Hey everyone,

I saw other threads similar to this but not exactly what I am asking. In my freshman year I received a No Credit (NC) grade for college trig. This grade per my institution guidelines says doesn't affect your GPA which I confirmed today with my Registar office. Now I took a look at the AAMC guidelines for grading and see that this could potentially count as an F so I called AAMC. I spoke with the AMCAS team and they said it really depends what happens during verification but that if my insituition guidelines do not count it as an F and state that it doesn't affect your GPA it likely shouldn't. However, I just want to see if anyone else has been through this issue on a previous application as I will be applying this coming cycle for my first time ever. All help is appreciated.

Important information regarding this subject:
Called AAMC
Called my Registar office
Took a look at the AMCAS grading guidelines

 

[Goro]

No one will care.

 

[Mfrauer]

No one will care.

Could you elaborate bc I care?

 

[LizzyM]

No one will care.

OP will care if a course counts toward the GPA and is marked as an F rather than not being counted toward GPA.

Every school has a section of the transcript (usually on the back of a paper copy) that describes what the various letter grades mean and how they are to be interpreted. I would guess that AAMC uses that information in verifying that what you enter on your application matches what is on the transcript submitted on your behalf. If the school that issued the transcript says that NC means no grade and no effect on GPA, then that is how AAMC will handle it.

 

[Mfrauer]

OP will care if a course counts toward the GPA and is marked as an F rather than not being counted toward GPA.

Every school has a section of the transcript (usually on the back of a paper copy) that describes what the various letter grades mean and how they are to be interpreted. I would guess that AAMC uses that information in verifying that what you enter on your application matches what is on the transcript submitted on your behalf. If the school that issued the transcript says that NC means no grade and no effect on GPA, then that is how AAMC will handle it.

Thank you so so much! That's what registar said too but just confirming. I appreciate you immensely!

 

[Goro]

Could you elaborate bc I care?

Your school and AAMC and AACOMAS won't treat it as an F, right?

 

[Mr.Smile12]

Dusting off...

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Thread 'Is this calculated as an f?'

Nov 2, 2008

At my school (CUNY Brooklyn College) as well as most of the other public city schools in nyc. theres a grade called NC or No Credit. this grade has no effect on your gpa its a grade most students opt for when they feel they are going to fail a class or they are going to get a grade they dont like. My question is does this count as an F on the AMCAS application (I will most likely be applying during 2010)?

I think this is almost similar to NP at other schools, how did/does that grade affect the AMACAS application?


Thanks

• Iamnumber24
• Replies: 15
• Forum: Pre-Medical (MD)

In short, it could be treated like a Withdrawal if that is how the registrar reports it. I have to look up the AMCAS Guidance on Grading Policies and Transcript Notations.

 

[LizzyM]

In my real work, I had reason to look at a transcript today from one of the LAC in the midwest. That school uses NC (no credit) as equivalent of F (there is no F) and NG for "no grade" which does not affect GPA but I could easily see where another school might have an explanation of NC that would be similar to NG. AMCAS is going to made these determinations on a school-by-school basis.

 

[Mfrauer]

In my real work, I had reason to look at a transcript today from one of the LAC in the midwest. That school uses NC (no credit) as equivalent of F (there is no F) and NG for "no grade" which does not affect GPA but I could easily see where another school might have an explanation of NC that would be similar to NG. AMCAS is going to made these determinations on a school-by-school basis.

In the case of my school NC has no impact on your gpa and is equivalent to taking the course and not getting a grade for it as per registrar, would that be determined by AAMC?

 

[Mr.Smile12]

In the case of my school NC has no impact on your gpa and is equivalent to taking the course and not getting a grade for it as per registrar, would that be determined by AAMC?

Yes. The AMCAS Application Grade Conversion Guide lists the options by grading system. How many passing grades does your registrar use for all classes? Yes, it's possible that unless your specific class was graded pass-fail, your NC could count as an F.. or not count at all. (I totally get how confusing this is.) From what I understand (in the webinar to prehealth advisors and registrars), the registrar's disclosure of the grading system and the specific "exceptions" that could occur for classes (like auditing) will dictate which model AMCAS will employ for that institution. This declaration is usually made at the end of the fall term to give AMCAS enough time to program any changes or modifications.

The short answer is to calculate your application GPAs with one treating the NC as an F (zero quality points) vs. a W (credit but no contribution to GPA). Hopefully their math lines up with one of them. Your prehealth advisors should be able to answer which one if they have been in their position long enough to shepherd other applicants with NC's.

 

[Mfrauer]

My school utilizes a ton of different grading scales, for this class which was during my freshman year, the count anything below a C as a NC. NC is specifically of none impact to GPA as listed in my school's policy. Calculating it as an F would cause a dramatically decrease in both my science and overall cumulative (-0.3) as I have never received an F or D or C in my entire college experience. I will reach out to my pre health advising today but there is confusion because although AMCAS listed that it would convert to an F my school's policy would depict this as incorrect.

But at the same time this class wouldn't really count as a W either because it wasn't student selected if that makes sense.

Other classes my university offers has an F and D as an option but this class specifically did not.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

My school utilizes a ton of different grading scales, for this class which was during my freshman year, the count anything below a C as a NC. NC is specifically of none impact to GPA as listed in my school's policy. Calculating it as an F would cause a dramatically decrease in both my science and overall cumulative (-0.3) as I have never received an F or D or C in my entire college experience. I will reach out to my pre health advising today but there is confusion because although AMCAS listed that it would convert to an F my school's policy would depict this as incorrect.

But at the same time this class wouldn't really count as a W either because it wasn't student selected if that makes sense.

Other classes my university offers has an F and D as an option but this class specifically did not.

Yeah, I wish I could help more, but that's your advisor's bailiwick to explain it to you how the registrar reports the change in grading policy and if AMCAS will adjust appropriately. Ask the advisor if this question has ever come up before; if the person has been in the position for more than 4 years, probably... but who knows (I'm saying 4 years because COVID craziness messed everybody up).

 

[LizzyM]

I think that technically it is not the advisor but the university registrar who explains the grading system in use at the university. As I mentioned, this is usually explained in writing on the back of a paper transcript (a rare thing these days) or on the page after the personal page(s) of your electronic transcript. This spells out what each grade means, particularly those outside of A through F.

 

[Mfrauer]

So I got my transcript and took a look, below I attached a screen shot,

It doesn't really help lol

It does fall under a no impact to GPA section just like N or W does

 

[LizzyM]

That helps immensely. F and WF are the grades that contribute 0 toward the grade point average and then there's the list of grades that do not contribute to the grade point average (neither the numerator nor the denominator). The grade you earned (NC) is one of those grades that gets left out of GPA calculations at your school.

 

[Mr.Smile12]

That helps immensely. F and WF are the grades that contribute 0 toward the grade point average and then there's the list of grades that do not contribute to the grade point average (neither the numerator nor the denominator). The grade you earned (NC) is one of those grades that gets left out of GPA calculations at your school.

Agreed. It looks more like a Withdrawal (since it's under the same category), so it should be left out of your school's GPA and probably your application GPA. (Note that medical schools can do their own adjustments post-verification. I think a few dental schools that will factor in WF's.)