Is this calculated as an f?

[Iamnumber24]

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At my school (CUNY Brooklyn College) as well as most of the other public city schools in nyc. theres a grade called NC or No Credit. this grade has no effect on your gpa its a grade most students opt for when they feel they are going to fail a class or they are going to get a grade they dont like. My question is does this count as an F on the AMCAS application (I will most likely be applying during 2010)?

I think this is almost similar to NP at other schools, how did/does that grade affect the AMACAS application?


Thanks

 

[Thrombomodulin]

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[HeatherMD]

sounds like the same as a W (withdraw) -- so no, not the same as an F! =)

 

[silverhorse84]

My school has C/NC grading too. I had one NC on my transcript, and my GPA from AMCAS didn't go down, so I presume they didn't see it as an F. 🙂

 

[HumidBeing]

sounds like the same as a W (withdraw) -- so no, not the same as an F! =)

Sorry, it does get calculated into the avg as a 0.0. F, NC, U, and NP are all treated equally as per AMCAS. Here's the chart from AMCAS.

 

[silverhorse84]

Sorry, it does get calculated into the avg as a 0.0. F, NC, U, and NP are all treated equally as per AMCAS. Here's the chart from AMCAS.

Hmm, interesting. Wonder why my GPA didn't change then. I know I have a lot of credits, but I would still think a 4.0 unit (quarter units, though) F would change it a bit.

 

[student1799]

Sorry, it does get calculated into the avg as a 0.0. F, NC, U, and NP are all treated equally as per AMCAS. Here's the chart from AMCAS.

On the AMCAS chart, NC only appears as the lowest (failing) grade in systems that have multiple passing grades--in other words, it's just a synonym for "F" in these grading systems. But the NC grade that the OP described does sound more like a W, or a Pass-Fail option, because it's the STUDENT (not the instructor) who chooses the grade. Neither Pass-Fail grades nor W's are included in the AMCAS GPA, so I don't think the NC would be either. (silverhorse84's GPA was unaffected by an NC because AMCAS probably considers C/NC to be the same as Pass/Fail.)

 

[charcoalwing]

I spoke to my pre-med advisor - I go to CUNY Hunter College as an undergrad (not too far from you) - and she told me that an NC counts as an F to medical schools. CR (for Credit) counts as a C, however. So if you plan to do the NC/CR option, make sure you can get a CR (pass the final). If you feel you are going to get an F in the class, an NC is way better then just getting an F because then you must retake it (this is CUNY policy with NC) and it replaces the F in your cumulative GPA; when in comparison, getting an F will be counted in you GPA forever. However, you must remember that even if it gets replaced, the F still stays on the transcript. It is just a means of showing the medical school that you did better with another try. If you feel you are going to get a C in the class, TAKE THE C. Do NOT take the NC/CR option. This is only if you feel you are going to fail the class.

 

[Thrombomodulin]

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[pianola]

Yeah, I think if you have any variation of P/F or P/NC then the F or NC grade is not factored into your GPA.

That was my understanding when I read the rules.

Call AMCAS to check.

On the AMCAS chart, NC only appears as the lowest (failing) grade in systems that have multiple passing grades--in other words, it's just a synonym for "F" in these grading systems. But the NC grade that the OP described does sound more like a W, or a Pass-Fail option, because it's the STUDENT (not the instructor) who chooses the grade. Neither Pass-Fail grades nor W's are included in the AMCAS GPA, so I don't think the NC would be either. (silverhorse84's GPA was unaffected by an NC because AMCAS probably considers C/NC to be the same as Pass/Fail.)

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EDIT: btw student, thanks for reminding me where I had heard the name Jane Birken.

 

[TooMuchResearch]

Pages 8-9 of the 2009 AMCAS instructions lists course designations that count/do not count towards the AMCAS GPA. That document may be found here:

2009 Instructions

As a side note, I was not aware that applicants must report high school GPA. I hope they like my 2.8 (or something like that). 😉

 

[ANF1986]

Pages 8-9 of the 2009 AMCAS instructions lists course designations that count/do not count towards the AMCAS GPA. That document may be found here:

2009 Instructions

As a side note, I was not aware that applicants must report high school GPA. I hope they like my 2.8 (or something like that). 😉

Lol...I have you wayyy beat...I hope they enjoy my 60+ absences per school year.....

Im taking a C/NC class right now, be interested to know the definitive answer. Seems like theres alot of conjecture here..

 

[Iamnumber24]

I spoke to my pre-med advisor - I go to CUNY Hunter College as an undergrad (not too far from you) - and she told me that an NC counts as an F to medical schools. CR (for Credit) counts as a C, however. So if you plan to do the NC/CR option, make sure you can get a CR (pass the final). If you feel you are going to get an F in the class, an NC is way better then just getting an F because then you must retake it (this is CUNY policy with NC) and it replaces the F in your cumulative GPA; when in comparison, getting an F will be counted in you GPA forever. However, you must remember that even if it gets replaced, the F still stays on the transcript. It is just a means of showing the medical school that you did better with another try. If you feel you are going to get a C in the class, TAKE THE C. Do NOT take the NC/CR option. This is only if you feel you are going to fail the class.

I went to hunter also. but anyways from the responses im getting, i'm assuming that on the AMCAS application it does not affect the gpa, but certain schools might consider it as an f in their own opinion/evaluation while others would not.

 

[TooMuchResearch]

Okay, I'm not sure if you have to report high school grades. Maybe that area is reserved for college credit earned in high school? Maybe someone could help me out here...?

 

[HumidBeing]

The HS section is for post secondary classes taken while still considered a high school student. For instance, students who do dual-enrollment courses during high school would list those courses in that section. It's not for listing regular high school courses taken at the high school.

 

[TooMuchResearch]

The HS section is for post secondary classes taken while still considered a high school student. For instance, students who do dual-enrollment courses during high school would list those courses in that section. It's not for listing regular high school courses taken at the high school.

Thanks for the quick reply.