no honors in surgery?

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hi everyone.
i've been considering a surgical career for some time now, but after busting my butt on my surg rotation, it was no honors for me. i got excellent evals and i high passed my exams, and apparently all that added up to a high pass overall.

is this common? will it make the road more difficult for me if i keep going towards gen surg? anyone else's experiences would be appreciated.

thanks 🙂 wiggle
 
Shouldn't be a problem. I passed surgery and have gotten lots of interviews.
Incidentally, "High Pass" is a good thing. If you love surgery, go for it!
 
wiggle said:
hi everyone.
i've been considering a surgical career for some time now, but after busting my butt on my surg rotation, it was no honors for me. i got excellent evals and i high passed my exams, and apparently all that added up to a high pass overall.

is this common? will it make the road more difficult for me if i keep going towards gen surg? anyone else's experiences would be appreciated.

thanks 🙂 wiggle
Many other aspects of your application will outweigh your grade in surgery (which is nothing to worry about anyways): Step I, Step II, AOA status, Dean's Letter, School reputation, LORs, Research, etc.

Best wishes
 
wiggle said:
hi everyone.
i've been considering a surgical career for some time now, but after busting my butt on my surg rotation, it was no honors for me. i got excellent evals and i high passed my exams, and apparently all that added up to a high pass overall.

is this common? will it make the road more difficult for me if i keep going towards gen surg? anyone else's experiences would be appreciated.

thanks 🙂 wiggle

Do well on your surgery sub-I and you'll be fine!
 
My husband didn't get honors in surgery. (I was really sick during that rotation and it just threw our whole schedule off. I have the worst timing!)
He had good board scores (I'd say above average)
He had honors in several other rotations
He did do really well on his Sub I for surgery
Not sure where he is class rank wise, but definitely in the top 25%


As others said there are definitely other parts to your application. Do the best you can and go for the specialty you really love! You can't go wrong there.

My husband is getting plenty of interview offers...at top programs too
 
hey again -
really appreciate the responses. sometimes i feel like a paranoid freak, so thanks again for the replies that were honest without being snarky. 🙂 glad to know this won't make my road all that incredibly more difficult.
 
From my experience so far on this years application cycle, I got a high pass in surgery with honors in medicine and FP with what I thought was more or less competitive board scores but not much else on my application other than a good amount of free clinic work, and I have to be honest and say I did think I would get more interviews than I have gotten so far. So I'd agree and say that you might not need to honor surgery, but if you don't you sure better have a whole lot more on your application to make up for a critical component in some peoples eyes (which I clearly don't seem to have...). Either way, good luck with everything. Cheers.
 
wiggle said:
is this common?
yes

wiggle said:
will it make the road more difficult for me if i keep going towards gen surg?
yes

Keep in mind that about 25% of GS spots go to IMG's each year. (www.nrmp.org and click the data table link) It's not that competitive. If you want to be a surgeon and are a US senior, you can find a spot.

If your evaluations are really good, build on those relationships. Attendings can help you out tremendously. If you don't get a reasonable number of interviews, have people make phone calls for you. And after interviewing, have people call your #1 program. Programs are really much more interested in your personality and work ethic than your board scores- there's just no number for those things. Use your attendings and even residents to help shore up the subjective parts of your application
 
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