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I think I either need to get new friends or to have no friends at all, my best friends do not freaking understand that I can't go out on weekdays, party on fridays, spent all day at tailgates (not sure if I spelled that right) on saturdays, or get drunk on a weekly basis like I did freshman year, I have told them countless times that a B is not enough, that the key to success is staying home studying on friday nights while the competition (the students in your class) is out drinking , telling your girlfriend or boyfriend that quality time with you would have to be spent over books in the library as oppose to over a drink at a bar or over a movie, telling that hot girl or guy that you simply can't hang out on sunday because you have to study even though you have no test coming up for another week. I tell them to let me be but they simply refuse to listen and persist on trying to get me to lose focus. I am sick of those pre-law and business majors ( reffering to my friends) not understanding what it takes to get into dental or medical school, am sick of having to explain that I want to become a maxillo facial surgeon and that I would gladly go to school for 15 more years to reach my goal I feel as if I have exhausted all options with them and as if I simply need to stop all contact with them. What kind of friends can they really be? if all they do is discourage me from working hard which in turn sways me away from reaching my goal. Hey am sure some of you have or are experiencing the same thing that I am and have been experiencing for the past two years. What do you think should be done?
 
I think I either need to get new friends or to have no friends at all, my best friends do not freaking understand that I can't go out on weekdays, party on fridays, spent all day at tailgates (not sure if I spelled that right) on saturdays, or get drunk on a weekly basis like I did freshman year, I have told them countless times that a B is not enough, that the key to success is staying home studying on friday nights while the competition (the students in your class) is out drinking , telling your girlfriend or boyfriend that quality time with you would have to be spent over books in the library as oppose to over a drink at a bar or over a movie, telling that hot girl or guy that you simply can't hang out on sunday because you have to study even though you have no test coming up for another week. I tell them to let me be but they simply refuse to listen and persist on trying to get me to lose focus. I am sick of those pre-law and business majors ( reffering to my friends) not understanding what it takes to get into dental or medical school, am sick of having to explain that I want to become a maxillo facial surgeon and that I would gladly go to school for 15 more years to reach my goal I feel as if I have exhausted all options with them and as if I simply need to stop all contact with them. What kind of friends can they really be? if all they do is discourage me from working hard which in turn sways me away from reaching my goal. Hey am sure some of you have or are experiencing the same thing that I am and have been experiencing for the past two years. What do you think should be done?
 
did you know that the MCATs were originally designed for people not to study at all for them? I assume the DATs were created with similar intentions. There's so many people that rant about their endless hours of studying. My GPA sucks and I have to pay for it by studying those hours along with many other people on these forums. To be honest though, I think the reason why we (you, me, and a lot of other people on these forums) have to give up out social lives was because of poor decision making in our past. Think about it, if you learned it before why would you need to study 8 hrs a day and give up your weekends? I study everyday and on friday and saturdays I study until night time and then go out to a bar or club or whatever. Afterall, this isn't the only aspect of our lives so don't completely ditch your friends 🙂
 
ummm....wow. you need to #1 - chill out and #2 - realize that life isn't all books. you need a balance.

at my d-school, we've learned that the best way to achieve success is to hit the books hard and take one night a week off and go get a drink or movie or whatever.

you need to have some free time and fun because you're going to (at the worst) burn out halfway through dental school and (at the best) realize you made a mistake and missed out on a lot of fun oppritunities.
 
did you know that the MCATs were originally designed for people not to study at all for them? I assume the DATs were created with similar intentions. There's so many people that rant about their endless hours of studying. My GPA sucks and I have to pay for it by studying those hours along with many other people on these forums. To be honest though, I think the reason why we (you, me, and a lot of other people on these forums) have to give up out social lives was because of poor decision making in our past. Think about it, if you learned it before why would you need to study 8 hrs a day and give up your weekends? I study everyday and on friday and saturdays I study until night time and then go out to a bar or club or whatever. Afterall, this isn't the only aspect of our lives so don't completely ditch your friends 🙂

sorry buddy my GPA does not suck and has never sucked It has always been over a 3.4, am not studying for the DAT and third if you think the DAT was not meant for people to study for it please don't study and fourth don't assume that I work hard now beause I did not in the past, it simply offends for I have always worked hard but I now choose to work harder, you are just like my friends
 
...What do you think should be done?

Between the two, your current friends or the academic foundation you're building, which one is going to help you realize your future? It sounds like you've made the decision already. 👍
 
ummm....wow. you need to #1 - chill out and #2 - realize that life isn't all books. you need a balance.

at my d-school, we've learned that the best way to achieve success is to hit the books hard and take one night a week off and go get a drink or movie or whatever.

well maybe that's why you are going to pittsburg, but no offence
 
I think I either need to get new friends or to have no friends at all, my best friends do not freaking understand that I can't go out on weekdays, party on fridays, spent all day at tailgates (not sure if I spelled that right) on saturdays, or get drunk on a weekly basis like I did freshman year, I have told them countless times that a B is not enough, that the key to success is staying home studying on friday nights while the competition (the students in your class) is out drinking , telling your girlfriend or boyfriend that quality time with you would have to be spent over books in the library as oppose to over a drink at a bar or over a movie, telling that hot girl or guy that you simply can't hang out on sunday because you have to study even though you have no test coming up for another week. I tell them to let me be but they simply refuse to listen and persist on trying to get me to lose focus. I am sick of those pre-law and business majors ( reffering to my friends) not understanding what it takes to get into dental or medical school, am sick of having to explain that I want to become a maxillo facial surgeon and that I would gladly go to school for 15 more years to reach my goal I feel as if I have exhausted all options with them and as if I simply need to stop all contact with them. What kind of friends can they really be? if all they do is discourage me from working hard which in turn sways me away from reaching my goal. Hey am sure some of you have or are experiencing the same thing that I am and have been experiencing for the past two years. What do you think should be done?

Get off it. Do what you have to, but draw in the reins of your benighted claims of ambition. You could have a life if you chose not to entertain your social insecurity from your hermitage in the library.
 
Get off it. Do what you have to, but draw in the reins of your benighted claims of ambition. You could have a life if you chose not to entertain your social insecurity from your hermitage in the library.

well buddy, you truly are a nutmeg.
 
ummm....wow. you need to #1 - chill out and #2 - realize that life isn't all books. you need a balance.

at my d-school, we've learned that the best way to achieve success is to hit the books hard and take one night a week off and go get a drink or movie or whatever.

you need to have some free time and fun because you're going to (at the worst) burn out halfway through dental school and (at the best) realize you made a mistake and missed out on a lot of fun oppritunities.

that's the truth.

Who the hell is this guy trying to talk shiii..if you're trippin' that much to get good grades in dental school...what are you going to do once you get into the omfs program..its harder than dental school...so if you're already studying as much as possible...you're toast in your grad program...just quit now.

I got faded last night...so much fun...and I get good grades..and I'll handle you in a class 2 prep. this guy is the kid in your class that nobody likes I bet.😱 Please don't make a comeback like...oh look at your grammar and spelling errors and that I go to NYU
 
that's the truth.

Who the hell is this guy trying to talk shiii..if you're trippin' that much to get good grades in dental school...what are you going to do once you get into the omfs program..its harder than dental school...so if you're already studying as much as possible...you're toast in your grad program...just quit now.

I got faded last night...so much fun...and I get good grades..and I'll handle you in a class 2 prep. this guy is the kid in your class that nobody likes I bet.😱 Please don't make a comeback like...oh look at your grammar and spelling errors and that I go to NYU

yeah I must say, you guessed it right, I am the guy that no one likes: The over-achieving, curve braking, hard working, arrogant, and narcissistic student. but that is the difference between a surgeon and a general dentist, that fierce dedication, that unrelentless focus and ambition. Listen buddy, I don't need a drink to make me happy, the ideology of fun has been socially constructed. I have just as much braking curves as you do going out and getting drunk so sorry but try again later.
 
Screw your friends, dump them like trash, obviously they dont care about you one bit because they have no respect for your future or what you are trying to do with your life.

they just want to use you for their own fun....Business isn't a profession, all they do in Business school is learn how to wear nice suits and smile, look hot so they can take people's money....it's everything but a profession...they just travel all over the world doing people in hotels...so trashy..............DOCTORS AND DENTISTS ARE IN A CLASS OF THEIR OWN.

DUMP THEM NOW...AND INSULT THEM BIG TIME...

If they were my friends, I would tell them things that would not only make them not want to hang out with me, but when and if they ever saw me in public, they would hide.....

Anyone that stands in my way, I'm going to throw them out of my face for good.

GET NEW FRIENDS NOW​
 
Screw your friends, dump them like trash, obviously they dont care about you one bit because they have no respect for your future or what you are trying to do with your life.

they just want to use you for their own fun....Business isn't a profession, all they do in Business school is learn how to wear nice suits and smile, look hot so they can take people's money....it's everything but a profession...they just travel all over the world doing people in hotels...so trashy..............DOCTORS AND DENTISTS ARE IN A CLASS OF THEIR OWN.

DUMP THEM NOW...AND INSULT THEM BIG TIME...

If they were my friends, I would tell them things that would not only make them not want to hang out with me, but when and if they ever saw me in public, they would hide.....

Anyone that stands in my way, I'm going to throw them out of my face for good.


GET NEW FRIENDS NOW​

I must say I like your attitude buddy
 
You have no reason to even have friends if that's how you act. It's one thing if you just don't prefer to hang out and do those things (and instead choose to be productive and study). It's another thing if you do not set aside SOME personal time. You would seriously tell your significant other that a book is more important than them? C'mon. Learn how to study. What probably takes you all night could probably be shortened by at least a couple hours with better study habits.

I'm aware that not everyone wants to go out and party, even once in a while. But it sounds like you would enjoy it since you claim you used to do it. So I would plan out a good study schedule during the week and be sure to set some free time to just do what you want.

If you cannot find even 2 hours during the week to hang out, I think your future doesn't look too bright socially.

This is my advice and you need not take it. But don't quote this and insult me.

P.S. It is always satisfying to me when I study wisely for 5-10 hours and do better than the kids that I KNOW studied like 10 hours each day for the past month. But mainly the cut-throat ones that HAVE to get the highest scores.
 
well maybe that's why you are going to pittsburg, but no offence

Oh yeah, my 3.7 undergrad GPA, 21 DAT, acceptance to 5 dental schools (one of which being Penn), publication in a major research magazine, and good dental school GPA don't mean anything.

You asked for advice. We're giving it. Going out and having fun a night a week or so is my key to success.

People going into OMFS have just as much fun as us future GPs do.
 
I am sick of those pre-law and business majors ( reffering to my friends) not understanding what it takes to get into dental or medical school, am sick of having to explain that...

Are you even in dental school yet? Are you stressing out like this over your undergrad work?
 
well u have to hang out sometimes, but you made it sound like your friends just didn't care about you at all....

Friends are good, as long as they're your "friends"
 
dude it sux, but you know what, you have to do what you do. if you don't say no now trust me it will suck later, b/c you will get stuck pleasing everyone your whole life....
 
Heed this advice:

"The only way to kill a troll is to ignore it. If ignoring the troll is deemed impossible, try fire." - Freddy Fuddrucker, Troll Slayer Extraordinaire
 
In response to my prior message, I wasn't insinuating you had a low GPA, also your friend toothguy...he's quite the character look at the thread he started ("come on...ADMIT it.."). I'll put it in more simple words. I come to these forums for advice from people that have been through the process and it helps a lot but I can't stand people that complain about their social lives. As much as I want to ignore it I can't...it's everywhere...they should make a cry me a river ranting section on the SDN forums it'd be a hit! Anyways, life is full of choices and some ignore their social lives and some put more weight on them. You think dental school is going to give you any more free time?

I'm not dissing you. My GPA is low and it's a downside to my application but I'll tell you this...when I become that dentist (eventually), I won't hesitate for a second saying I had the best years growing up and have the best of friends. How about cutting down the time you look at SDN forums and use it to go out with your friends....after all there's 24 hours in a day and if you study 8hrs, sleep 8, you have an extra 8hrs so stop complaining and trying to get support from other lifeless SDNers (I'm not assuming everyone is lifeless on SDN, just some!). This is a ridiculous thread:laugh:
 
"work smart, not hard..."

if you're working that hard and only pulling a 3.4 you have problems man. go out, get drunk, hang out, do whatever you gotta do. i did and got into dental school. enjoy life, you only live once.
 
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Chill. There is one thing I have leaned from SDN, if you post angry questions people are going to get off by making fun of you.
 
although i understand ur frustration
don't blame your friends if they ask u to hang out with them
going or not is YOUR decision
they OFFER you the choices
you are the one making the call

if u r looking for friends who never ask u out...
well it's probably not that hard to find
 
I think I either need to get new friends or to have no friends at all, my best friends do not freaking understand that I can't go out on weekdays, party on fridays, spent all day at tailgates (not sure if I spelled that right) on saturdays, or get drunk on a weekly basis like I did freshman year, I have told them countless times that a B is not enough, that the key to success is staying home studying on friday nights while the competition (the students in your class) is out drinking , telling your girlfriend or boyfriend that quality time with you would have to be spent over books in the library as oppose to over a drink at a bar or over a movie, telling that hot girl or guy that you simply can't hang out on sunday because you have to study even though you have no test coming up for another week. I tell them to let me be but they simply refuse to listen and persist on trying to get me to lose focus. I am sick of those pre-law and business majors ( reffering to my friends) not understanding what it takes to get into dental or medical school, am sick of having to explain that I want to become a maxillo facial surgeon and that I would gladly go to school for 15 more years to reach my goal I feel as if I have exhausted all options with them and as if I simply need to stop all contact with them. What kind of friends can they really be? if all they do is discourage me from working hard which in turn sways me away from reaching my goal. Hey am sure some of you have or are experiencing the same thing that I am and have been experiencing for the past two years. What do you think should be done?



Do not let your friends or family or anybody else make you feel bad for not spending time with them or being "fun" or not being "normal" because you are studying all the time. At times, you may feel like you are not being a good friend or family member, but remember that this is very important to you and the few years in the big picture of things is nothing. if people make you feel bad for studying, tell them to GET OVER IT> 🙂 Stay positive & don't forget why you are doing this.
 
"work smart, not hard..."

if you're working that hard and only pulling a 3.4 you have problems man. go out, get drunk, hang out, do whatever you gotta do. i did and got into dental school. enjoy life, you only live once.

Again, correction buddy I said my GPA has never been under a 3.4 and did not say I was pulling a 3.4 I ASSURE you it is way above that so please try again
 
All I can say is that if you are having to work this hard now. Good luck getting through dental school.
 
hahaha funny the only person to agree with him was the one who started the thread about "meeting that special someone" in dental school and how muscular and good looking he is going to be. Now we got mterp who sounds like a flat out tool. The way you sound bro, you wont have to stop hanging out with your friends because they prolly already think you are a douche bag. Friends are important in life and if you are going to drop them because they call you to go out with them on weeknights that is pretty ridicilous... all you have to do is say no or keep your phone off.
 
hahaha funny the only person to agree with him was the one who started the thread about "meeting that special someone" in dental school and how muscular and good looking he is going to be. Now we got mterp who sounds like a flat out tool. The way you sound bro, you wont have to stop hanging out with your friends because they prolly already think you are a douche bag. Friends are important in life and if you are going to drop them because they call you to go out with them on weeknights that is pretty ridicilous... all you have to do is say no or keep your phone off.

Please refrain from calling me a tool or a troll I don't think that's nice buddy lol :laugh:
 
I think I either need to get new friends or to have no friends at all, my best friends do not freaking understand that I can't go out on weekdays, party on fridays, spent all day at tailgates (not sure if I spelled that right) on saturdays, or get drunk on a weekly basis like I did freshman year, I have told them countless times that a B is not enough, that the key to success is staying home studying on friday nights while the competition (the students in your class) is out drinking , telling your girlfriend or boyfriend that quality time with you would have to be spent over books in the library as oppose to over a drink at a bar or over a movie, telling that hot girl or guy that you simply can't hang out on sunday because you have to study even though you have no test coming up for another week. I tell them to let me be but they simply refuse to listen and persist on trying to get me to lose focus. I am sick of those pre-law and business majors ( reffering to my friends) not understanding what it takes to get into dental or medical school, am sick of having to explain that I want to become a maxillo facial surgeon and that I would gladly go to school for 15 more years to reach my goal I feel as if I have exhausted all options with them and as if I simply need to stop all contact with them. What kind of friends can they really be? if all they do is discourage me from working hard which in turn sways me away from reaching my goal. Hey am sure some of you have or are experiencing the same thing that I am and have been experiencing for the past two years. What do you think should be done?

I call BS. There is no way someone like you has friends.

Also, noone says they want to be a "maxillo-facial surgeon"...I've heard people say they were going to be a MF-ing surgeon, but I don't think they meant the same thing you did.
 
yeah I must say, you guessed it right, I am the guy that no one likes: The over-achieving, curve braking, hard working, arrogant, and narcissistic student. but that is the difference between a surgeon and a general dentist, that fierce dedication, that unrelentless focus and ambition. Listen buddy, I don't need a drink to make me happy, the ideology of fun has been socially constructed. I have just as much braking curves as you do going out and getting drunk so sorry but try again later.

Not to be rude like you, but are you on drugs????!! Sounds like you just want to cause drama on SDN. You really need to lay off the coke, :laugh::idea:
 
To the OP, first off stop calling everyone "buddy" like you know everyone. Second, if you wanted advice and you posted a thread then why are attacking every response on here? No one cares if you have a 3.1 or a 4.0, you asked for advice were giving it the best we can, if you don't like it then don't ask. No one has been insulting to you in any way, no one has said anything offending, and nobody needs to take crap for trying to help someone by giving advice. Learn to grow up and take advice.
 
This is the dumbest thread ever. I LIVE with 5 guys (they are also some of my best friends) that are each either in hospitality business or accounting. Literally, there are people drinking in my house every night. I also plan on becoming an OMFS. Get real dude.
 
At this point in my life I want to go into OMFS. You can be as focused as you want now but we're all trying for the same goal...to get into dental school whether you want to go into endodontics, ortho, etc. Once you're in dental school you should look into specialties and THEN compete. I feel like people who say they are soooo motivated to go into a specialty already are doing it for the wrong reasons. That's like saying you wanted to be a doctor when you were 5 years old because "you like to help people." There's tons of professions that help people, but the doctor one is probably the one that makes the most money or it's the job your parents have drilled into your head when you were born. This isn't a life lesson or anything, but I'm sure you've heard this before...do what makes you happy and the money will follow with it. chill out, live life up, and listen to these smart SDNers they've been giving some pretty good advice 👍
 
I think I either need to get new friends or to have no friends at all, my best friends do not freaking understand that I can't go out on weekdays, party on fridays, spent all day at tailgates (not sure if I spelled that right) on saturdays, or get drunk on a weekly basis like I did freshman year, I have told them countless times that a B is not enough, that the key to success is staying home studying on friday nights while the competition (the students in your class) is out drinking , telling your girlfriend or boyfriend that quality time with you would have to be spent over books in the library as oppose to over a drink at a bar or over a movie, telling that hot girl or guy that you simply can't hang out on sunday because you have to study even though you have no test coming up for another week. I tell them to let me be but they simply refuse to listen and persist on trying to get me to lose focus. I am sick of those pre-law and business majors ( reffering to my friends) not understanding what it takes to get into dental or medical school, am sick of having to explain that I want to become a maxillo facial surgeon and that I would gladly go to school for 15 more years to reach my goal I feel as if I have exhausted all options with them and as if I simply need to stop all contact with them. What kind of friends can they really be? if all they do is discourage me from working hard which in turn sways me away from reaching my goal. Hey am sure some of you have or are experiencing the same thing that I am and have been experiencing for the past two years. What do you think should be done?
"dumb" all your friends and change schools.
 
I think I either need to get new friends or to have no friends at all, my best friends do not freaking understand that I can't go out on weekdays, party on fridays, spent all day at tailgates (not sure if I spelled that right) on saturdays, or get drunk on a weekly basis like I did freshman year, I have told them countless times that a B is not enough, that the key to success is staying home studying on friday nights while the competition (the students in your class) is out drinking , telling your girlfriend or boyfriend that quality time with you would have to be spent over books in the library as oppose to over a drink at a bar or over a movie, telling that hot girl or guy that you simply can't hang out on sunday because you have to study even though you have no test coming up for another week. I tell them to let me be but they simply refuse to listen and persist on trying to get me to lose focus. I am sick of those pre-law and business majors ( reffering to my friends) not understanding what it takes to get into dental or medical school, am sick of having to explain that I want to become a maxillo facial surgeon and that I would gladly go to school for 15 more years to reach my goal I feel as if I have exhausted all options with them and as if I simply need to stop all contact with them. What kind of friends can they really be? if all they do is discourage me from working hard which in turn sways me away from reaching my goal. Hey am sure some of you have or are experiencing the same thing that I am and have been experiencing for the past two years. What do you think should be done?

I think you should email them this post. Most likely you won't get any more calls come friday nights :meanie:.
 
wow, the OP sounds like a maryland kid and I pray to God that you don't get accepted to our Dental school.

jb!🙂
 
To the OP, first off stop calling everyone "buddy" like you know everyone. Second, if you wanted advice and you posted a thread then why are attacking every response on here? No one cares if you have a 3.1 or a 4.0, you asked for advice were giving it the best we can, if you don't like it then don't ask. No one has been insulting to you in any way, no one has said anything offending, and nobody needs to take crap for trying to help someone by giving advice. Learn to grow up and take advice.

why show such disdain towards me buddy? relax
 
At this point in my life I want to go into OMFS. You can be as focused as you want now but we're all trying for the same goal...to get into dental school whether you want to go into endodontics, ortho, etc. Once you're in dental school you should look into specialties and THEN compete. I feel like people who say they are soooo motivated to go into a specialty already are doing it for the wrong reasons. That's like saying you wanted to be a doctor when you were 5 years old because "you like to help people." There's tons of professions that help people, but the doctor one is probably the one that makes the most money or it's the job your parents have drilled into your head when you were born. This isn't a life lesson or anything, but I'm sure you've heard this before...do what makes you happy and the money will follow with it. chill out, live life up, and listen to these smart SDNers they've been giving some pretty good advice 👍

You have a good point buddy but there are some but very few people on this earth that have the ability to very scrupulously plan every step of their life and succeed in achieving everything according to plan. I am one of those people, I knew where I was going to highschool, I knew what GPA I would graduate highschool with, I knew what college I was going to as a freshman in highschool, I knew what my major would be,I know what GPA I will graduate out of college with and I know now that I will be a maxillo-facial surgeon.
 
There's a lot more to being a good OMFS than being smart and studying, and you will find that out one day when you mature. Just relax, enjoy life and study hard. If you have to study this hard to get good grades in college then good luck. There's more to life than what you think. I know b/c I was just like you until one day I realized there was more to the world.
 
Again, correction buddy I said my GPA has never been under a 3.4 and did not say I was pulling a 3.4 I ASSURE you it is way above that so please try again

😴 I don't think any of us care how high your GPA is (anything less than a 4.0 given your effort will be a disappointment :laugh:)... Are you for real?? You're either a troll or a tool with hardcore 19th century Asian values. A little reminder... the interview gives an applicant a chance to set them apart from the rest. I know you'll definitely set yourself apart....
 
There's a lot more to being a good OMFS than being smart and studying, and you will find that out one day when you mature. Just relax, enjoy life and study hard. If you have to study this hard to get good grades in college then good luck. There's more to life than what you think. I know b/c I was just like you until one day I realized there was more to the world.

I studied harder in high school, and about OMFS I have been shadowing one for three years so thanks buddy but I know what it takes to be a good one
 
😴 I don't think any of us care how high your GPA is (anything less than a 4.0 given your effort will be a disappointment :laugh:)... Are you for real?? You're either a troll or a tool with hardcore 19th century Asian values. A little reminder... the interview gives an applicant a chance to set them apart from the rest. I know you'll definitely set yourself apart....

Okay buddy stop taking shots at me
 
well maybe that's why you are going to pittsburg, but no offence

i think i just lost whatever little respect i had for you, buddy. 👎
 
You're so focused and study so hard and know everything you want to do, yet you couldn't figure out that you can apply to Howard before you graduated from college...
 
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