No Interviews Do I Still have a Chance this Cycle?

[implants]

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Hey guys. Applied to about 20 schools. Have had zero interviews, some rejections. Here are my stats:

22AA 22 TS, 28 OC, 25 GC, 20 BIO, 19 PAT, 19 QR, 19 RC.
3.2 sGPA
3.5 Non-Science
3.3 cGPA
Application complete mid-sept.

Rejections from:

Columbia, UCONN, New Jersey, UBuffalo, Case, UPITT, NOVA, Michigan....

Still under review with the following schools:

boston university, marq, NYU, STONY, TEMPLE, Tufts, Tennessee, Louisville, Maryland, USC, UoP, VCU, Western.

Whats the deal? I was expecting an interview at least somewhere!!! Called some of the schools where I am still under review, same story, still interviewing through March. Do I even have a shot?

 

[hifive]

It's looking slim this late in the cycle, your DAT is fairly strong, your gpa is okay 3.5 would be good, it might be your ECs/PS

 

[Darce101]

I'm assuming it's a combination of EC's, personal statement and applying late.

 

[wired202808]

Hey guys. Applied to about 20 schools. Have had zero interviews, some rejections. Here are my stats:

22AA 22 TS, 28 OC, 25 GC, 20 BIO, 19 PAT, 19 QR, 19 RC.
3.2 sGPA
3.5 Non-Science
3.3 cGPA
Application complete mid-sept.

Rejections from:

Columbia, UCONN, New Jersey, UBuffalo, Case, UPITT, NOVA, Michigan....

Still under review with the following schools:

boston university, marq, NYU, STONY, TEMPLE, Tufts, Tennessee, Louisville, Maryland, USC, UoP, VCU, Western.

Whats the deal? I was expecting an interview at least somewhere!!! Called some of the schools where I am still under review, same story, still interviewing through March. Do I even have a shot?

Its probably the low sGPA and overall GPA isnt too hot either. Mid-sept is late but I think the PS might be problematic as well.

 

[Seamonkey Doc]

Hey guys. Applied to about 20 schools. Have had zero interviews, some rejections. Here are my stats:

22AA 22 TS, 28 OC, 25 GC, 20 BIO, 19 PAT, 19 QR, 19 RC.
3.2 sGPA
3.5 Non-Science
3.3 cGPA
Application complete mid-sept.

Rejections from:

Columbia, UCONN, New Jersey, UBuffalo, Case, UPITT, NOVA, Michigan....

Still under review with the following schools:

boston university, marq, NYU, STONY, TEMPLE, Tufts, Tennessee, Louisville, Maryland, USC, UoP, VCU, Western.

Whats the deal? I was expecting an interview at least somewhere!!! Called some of the schools where I am still under review, same story, still interviewing through March. Do I even have a shot?

Your GPA isn't terrible and your DAT scores are pretty good (esp Ochem). EC's, shadowing, or personal statement could have been an issue however applying late has to be at least 75% of the reason why you didn't hear back from anyone.

If you don't hear anything, APPLY IN JUNE NEXT CYCLE.

 

[JdogDMD]

Chances are very slim this late in the game. Your DAT is fine... Your GPA's are a little low. I think it's a combination between applying late, your extracurriculars, and your personal statement. Work on those and then apply earlier. Good luck!

 

[implants]

My ECs are very limited but now being a senior graduating in may. I don't have much time to rack up a ton of hours. Should I try to do a bunch over the summer? Also, should I take the year to take extra classes? Or just apply this year?

 

[Seamonkey Doc]

My ECs are very limited but now being a senior graduating in may. I don't have much time to rack up a ton of hours. Should I try to do a bunch over the summer? Also, should I take the year to take extra classes? Or just apply this year?

How many shadowing hours do you have so far?

You can take some more classes after graduating but keep in mind that if you apply this upcoming cycle, these extra classes won't influence your GPA until it's time for an academic update in Dec.

From personal experience, I think your GPA is ok to apply with. I think you can apply this year, but you need to do it in June. Just to be safe, take another look at your personal statement.

 

[predent2051]

something definitely is rotten either in your essay,EC's, or letters. I think you should have had at least a couple of interviews with those DATs. GPA might be low compared to some of the gunners on here, but it should be fine

 

[doc toothache]

Whats the deal? I was expecting an interview at least somewhere!!! Called some of the schools where I am still under review, same story, still interviewing through March. Do I even have a shot?

You were on a roll until they got a whiff of "what's the deal" and " I was expecting an interview"

 

[pk62281]

Something is definitely off. You should have gotten a few interviews with those stats. Also, applying in september is not late. There are people with worse stats than you that got interviews.You should get somebody to look at your AADSAS app and point out what went wrong.

I'm a nontrad student and applied to 19 schools June with 23AA/26PAT and a 3.3GPA with a great upward trend and got 0 interviews until December. I was freaking out and really confused. It turns out that because I did not indicated any planned coursework when I submitted my app (I still had a handful of prerequisites to complete) schools were wary of interviewing me. I live in Ann Arbor and Michigan quickly rejected me because of that. I was seriously like.. wtf? Michigan rejected me! I live down the freakin block!

In late November, I did the academic update and added a bunch of coursework that I had completed and planned to complete. Soon after, 5 interviews came rolling in.

GPA, DAT, EC hours count, but you really have to go over your app with a finetooth comb to see if there's something off.

 

[omnipoDent]

You were on a roll until they got a whiff of "what's the deal" and " I was expecting an interview"

I had a similar reaction as doc seems to have.

No offense, but there are no guarantees in this process, and you should never "expect an interview." You did well on the DAT, but your 3.2 sGPA and 3.3 cGPA could very easily have held you back and caused the school to decide to go with other applicants. We are also not able to see your personal statement, BCP, extra curricular activities, etc..., which are all factors obviously taken into consideration. The OP needs to contact the schools he applied to, get feedback as to what areas they felt he/she can improve, and most likely begin preparing for next cycle. Best of luck.

 

[pk62281]

I had a similar reaction as doc seems to have.

No offense, but there are no guarantees in this process, and you should never "expect an interview." You did well on the DAT, but your 3.2 sGPA and 3.3 cGPA could very easily have held you back and caused the school to decide to go with other applicants. We are also not able to see your personal statement, BCP, extra curricular activities, etc..., which are all factors obviously taken into consideration. The OP needs to contact the schools he applied to, get feedback as to what areas they felt he/she can improve, and most likely begin preparing for next cycle. Best of luck.

To be honest, I agree with the OP. After applying to 20 schools with an above average DAT, and mediocre GPA, an interview should be expected from a few of the schools. He should have gotten a few bites, but didn't, and that's odd. Why would any of us spend thousands of dollars and time applying if we didn't "expect" results?

 

[omnipoDent]

To be honest, I agree with the OP. After applying to 20 schools with an above average DAT, and mediocre GPA, an interview should be expected from a few of the schools. He should have gotten a few bites, but didn't, and that's odd. Why would any of us spend thousands of dollars and time applying if we didn't "expect" results?

I thought we all hoped for the results. I was hoping to get interviews and get accepted, but I never expected it because it's out of my control. It's just my opinion. I do see what you're saying, though.

 

[wired202808]

To be honest, I agree with the OP. After applying to 20 schools with an above average DAT, and mediocre GPA, an interview should be expected from a few of the schools. He should have gotten a few bites, but didn't, and that's odd. Why would any of us spend thousands of dollars and time applying if we didn't "expect" results?

This is a classic case of SDN overhyping DAT scores. DAT scores are not and I repeat again are not the more important than the GPA. Do students get in with 3.0 to 3.3 and 22AA? The answer is sometimes. The most frequently admitted student will have a 3.5 or above. Only Canadians seem to suffer with high GPAs, meanwhile everyone else gets admitted. However, a 3.2 sGPA is not competitive when most schools have sGPAs of 3.5 and above. OP needs to boost the weak sGPA to show adcoms that he didnt get lucky on the DAT and actually knows his sciences. A 3.2 indicates more B to B+ grades than A's.

 

[Tootyfruity]

what's your undergrad major?

are you sure you have all the prereqs?

your gpa and dats should be good enough even for a late app to get at least 1 interview

 

[pk62281]

This is a classic case of SDN overhyping DAT scores. DAT scores are not and I repeat again are not the more important than the GPA. Do students get in with 3.0 to 3.3 and 22AA? The answer is sometimes. The most frequently admitted student will have a 3.5 or above. Only Canadians seem to suffer with high GPAs, meanwhile everyone else gets admitted. However, a 3.2 sGPA is not competitive when most schools have sGPAs of 3.5 and above. OP needs to boost the weak sGPA to show adcoms that he didnt get lucky on the DAT and actually knows his sciences. A 3.2 indicates more B to B+ grades than A's.

This is a classic case of someone on SDN oversimplifying GPA. Just because someone has a subpar GPA, doesnt mean that he or she will not get interviews. There is often more to the story. I have a subpar GPA but I got interviews because of my work experience and upward trend. There are other factors involved. Is there an upward trend? What is the courseload? How competitive is the institution? etc.

You applied to 20 schools, and a lot of those schools have matriculating GPAs of around 3.3-3.4 with average DATs of less than what you have. You should have gotten an interview somewhere based on those numbers. I think there is something else that is holding you back that goes beyond your DAT and GPA combination.

 

[dentalprodigy]

Yea op with those stats you should have definitely gotten interviews.

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[ethylalcohol]

yeah i agree with you even if both A and B have 3.3 gpa the "quality" of their gpa may be different

 

[wired202808]

This is a classic case of someone on SDN oversimplifying GPA. Just because someone has a subpar GPA, doesnt mean that he or she will not get interviews. There is often more to the story. I have a subpar GPA but I got interviews because of my work experience and upward trend. There are other factors involved. Is there an upward trend? What is the courseload? How competitive is the institution? etc.

You applied to 20 schools, and a lot of those schools have matriculating GPAs of around 3.3-3.4 with average DATs of less than what you have. You should have gotten an interview somewhere based on those numbers. I think there is something else that is holding you back that goes beyond your DAT and GPA combination.

Last time I checked someone having a 3.2 when the schools Average is a 3.4 is below the schools standards and falls into the 25% bucket.. The average sGPA for all schools last year were 3.48. It was also 3.4 for at least 43 schools. The matter of fact is that the OP is below average and needs to boost their sGPA. And also to address your rumor in the bold thats not true, 41 out of 58 schools had oGPAs of 3.50.

The OP is on the lower end. Can he get in? Of course but IMO the sGPA had to be boosted. You can get in with a 3.4 or 3.5 oGPA, but its always good to have an equivalent or high sGPA to prove you know sciences. A high sGPA like a 3.5 to 3.7 would guarantee a lot more interviews than his present standing. Esp since he has a 22AA. There's really nothing else that can be said.

 

[pk62281]

Last time I checked someone having a 3.2 when the schools Average is a 3.4 is below the schools standards and falls into the 25% bucket.. The average sGPA for all schools last year were 3.48. It was also 3.4 for at least 43 schools. The matter of fact is that the OP is below average and needs to boost their sGPA. And also to address your rumor in the bold thats not true, 41 out of 58 schools had oGPAs of 3.50.

The OP is on the lower end. Can he get in? Of course but IMO the sGPA had to be boosted. You can get in with a 3.4 or 3.5 oGPA, but its always good to have an equivalent or high sGPA to prove you know sciences. A high sGPA like a 3.5 to 3.7 would guarantee a lot more interviews than his present standing. Esp since he has a 22AA. There's really nothing else that can be said.

There's plenty more that can be said, and that's whats wrong with the type of advice you're giving. We all know the obvious, a high GPA and good DAT score is what gets people into dental school. I'm 100% sure the OP knows that. Obviously a higher GPA will get the OP interviews.

When someone has 120 credit hours or so (assuming the OP is a senior), just boosting one's GPA is really not that simple. He can throw a few semesters of 4.0s at it, and will bring up the GPA to a 3.3 or 3.4. Which is still below the average. So should the OP give up? Does the OP need a masters or a post bac? There's more questions that need to be answered before we automatically assume that the OP's GPA is the dealbreaker. Keep in mind the OP applied to 20 schools and a lot of those schools are the schools with lower GPA averages like BU, NYU, Tufts, and USC.

Also, based on your blanket statements, I shouldn't have gotten any interviews.

 

[wired202808]

There's plenty more that can be said, and that's whats wrong with the type of advice you're giving. We all know the obvious, a high GPA and good DAT score is what gets people into dental school. I'm 100% sure the OP knows that. Obviously a higher GPA will get the OP interviews.

When someone has 120 credit hours or so (assuming the OP is a senior), just boosting one's GPA is really not that simple. He can throw a few semesters of 4.0s at it, and will bring up the GPA to a 3.3 or 3.4. Which is still below the average. So should the OP give up? Does the OP need a masters or a post bac? There's more questions that need to be answered before we automatically assume that the OP's GPA is the dealbreaker. Keep in mind the OP applied to 20 schools and a lot of those schools are the schools with lower GPA averages like BU, NYU, Tufts, and USC.

Also, based on your blanket statements, I shouldn't have gotten any interviews.

I never said you wont get into any school... but when you're in the bottom 25% of any dental school stats then you're chances are worse. Also please dont tell me its impossible to raise a GPA with 120 credits when I boosted the crap out of my GPA. Did it take me a long time and tons of credits? yes but the beauty is in the details. The biggest bump I had in GPA were in the sGPA and BCP categories which matter a lot more since its a d-schools are science based after all.

At the end of the day, high sGPA and BCP averages are worth a ton more than the DAT. Do applicants with below average stats get in? All the time, but their chances at specific schools are significantly reduced by low GPAs.

 

[dentalprodigy]

At this stage in the game... not really

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