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[californiaappli1]

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I hate to be that anxious applicant , but I am a below average applicant applying to IM and I have not gotten any invites . I am freaking myself as my classmates are getting tons of invites .
Step 1 212 step 2 250s
Bottom of class . AMG
Applied to 55 programs mainly community.

Am I being too nervous right now ?

 

[Nivakia]

how many programs did you apply? did you only pick the top programs?

 

[bashwell]

how many programs did you apply? did you only pick the top programs?

I hate to be that anxious applicant , but I am a below average applicant applying to IM and I have not gotten any invites . I am freaking myself as my classmates are getting tons of invites .
Step 1 212 step 2 250s
Bottom of class . AMG
Applied to 55 programs mainly community.

Am I being too nervous right now ?

 

[knightstale4]

I understand the boat you are in. It sucks and I am sorry you're in this position especially on a forum like SDN where everyone seems to have a bazillion invites. All I can think of is:
1. Any red flags on your app? i.e. grades, professionalism issues, etc.
2. Were your LORs from people who knew you well and would write you a strong letter?

I would also recommend talking to the program director at your school. Mine was pretty open about my chances at my home institution.

I would imagine the dean's letter will only help you and you should be hearing from programs soon. I have been told by my dean if we haven't obtained at least 9-11 interviews by Oct 23rd, to get in contact with your advisor.

 

[knightstale4]

Also noticed you're from Cali. Did you apply to schools all over or only on the west coast?

 

[Nivakia]

there is still time apply a couple more, pick some new programs that are just born

 

[p1ggy]

I have friends applying to IM that haven't gotten invitations either with average-above average stats. Take a look at the thread for the IM interview invitations. Are people getting invitations at the places you applied? Maybe some of the places you applied to haven't started giving out invitations yet?

 

[californiaappli1]

Thanks guys. I think I am overreacting. I am applying everywhere, and believe me I have been stalking the IM interview invitation thread.

 

[HelpPleaseMD]

Thanks guys. I think I am overreacting. I am applying everywhere, and believe me I have been stalking the IM interview invitation thread.

If you don't hear anything by next week then I'd be worried. Now is too early imo to panic. best of luck 🙂. this is the fun part of med school

 

[gutonc]

If you don't hear anything by next week then I'd be worried. Now is too early imo to panic. best of luck 🙂. this is the fun part of med school

Next week? Are you kidding? If Halloween rolls around and you're still 0/whatever, then worry. If Veteran's Day comes and you're in the same boat, then panic. If Thanksgiving comes and the situation is the same...then call it.

But freaking out the first or second week of October is just dumb.

 

[HelpPleaseMD]

i dunno I think they changed the interview schedule since when you applied. Most of my interviews last year came by 10/15. If he/she gets not one interview out of 55 by next week, I'd be worried. maybe thats just me.

 

[premedk]

My stats are similar to yours (AMG, higher step 1, lower step 2, also bottom of the class). I have invites from a few small community programs and 1 low(mid?) tier academic program all in the south. I'm from the southeast(but have strong ties to Cali) and I applied to most of the community programs in Cali. I haven't heard anything back from any of the Cali schools. Those programs are notoriously competitive, I'm not sure how I will fare, thus I applied to 35 additional programs.

One thing I think may help is priming your letter writers/advisors who have connections to programs by letting them know you may need them to make calls and emails on your behalf. That way if you if you have to ask them beg for interviews a month down the road it won't be awkward. Also, let them know where you stand in the class so they know why you may have trouble getting interviews. Most of my letter writers were surprised about my class rank since they thought I was a strong clinical student and said they would be more than happy to make a call or email to people they know at other programs. I have atleast 6 different programs my advisors will be able to put in a word for me at if I don't initially get an interview. I'm waiting a month until I use this option.

Also, at this stage the top students are getting interviews at top programs across the country. These are students that could have matched any specialty, but chose IM for some strange reason. Ignore these people and life will be less stressful.

 

[knightstale4]

Also, at this stage the top students are getting interviews at top programs across the country. These are students that could have matched any specialty, but chose IM for some strange reason. Ignore these people and life will be less stressful.

This made me laugh. Definitely needed it right now.

 

[premedk]

This made me laugh. Definitely needed it right now.

I think I'm just bitter. If you go through my post hx, there is one ultra competative (non internal med) speciality I really liked, but was scared off by the NRPM data... now I'm not even sure I'll even match into a legitimate IM program. Not sure why IM would be anyone's first choice...not a bad backup though considering the subspecialty options.

 

[Beacopp665]

I think I'm just bitter. If you go through my post hx, there is one ultra competative (non internal med) speciality I really liked, but was scared off by the NRPM data... now I'm not even sure I'll even match into a legitimate IM program. Not sure why IM would be anyone's first choice...not a bad backup though considering the subspecialty options.

Is it that hard to believe some of us genuinely just enjoyed internal medicine more than anything else??

 

[Psai]

You shouldn't stalk the interview invite thread. It makes you neurotic

 

[CatFactorial]

I think I'm just bitter. If you go through my post hx, there is one ultra competative (non internal med) speciality I really liked, but was scared off by the NRPM data... now I'm not even sure I'll even match into a legitimate IM program. Not sure why IM would be anyone's first choice...not a bad backup though considering the subspecialty options.

Aww

 

[californiaappli1]

You shouldn't stalk the interview invite thread. It makes you neurotic

yeah you are right , it is not good for me.

 

[premedk]

Is it that hard to believe some of us genuinely just enjoyed internal medicine more than anything else??

Not hard to believe...just odd.

 

[Jcooper92]

Not too sure about my situation as well. I applied to a boat load of MD and DO schools on June 1st, submitted all secondaries in early July... Only have had DO interviews with 2 acceptances. I've had 4 rejections from MD out of 20 I applied to.
My stats:
Florida resident, went to UNF, with 30 MCAT (9 Bio, 11 PS, 10 VR), 3.83 cGPA, 4.0 sGPA, Bachelor's in Biomedical Science.
about 40 hours volunteering, 50 hours shadowing, 1800 hours as medical scribe, and I was promoted to manager within 8 months of employment.

 

[Jcooper92]

Not too sure about my situation as well. I applied to a boat load of MD and DO schools on June 1st, submitted all secondaries in early July... Only have had DO interviews with 2 acceptances. I've had 4 rejections from MD out of 20 I applied to.
My stats:
Florida resident, went to UNF, with 30 MCAT (9 Bio, 11 PS, 10 VR), 3.83 cGPA, 4.0 sGPA, Bachelor's in Biomedical Science.
about 40 hours volunteering, 50 hours shadowing, 1800 hours as medical scribe, and I was promoted to manager within 8 months of employment.

How do I delete this crap..... ehhhhhh. Too new to this forum! Hide!!!

 

[DNM]

How do I delete this crap..... ehhhhhh. Too new to this forum! Hide!!!

As I am sure you have figured out, this thread is for people applying for residency, a mod should be able to move your post over to pre-allo

 

[premedk]

Since this post was bumped any way, OP, are you having more luck getting interview invites?

 

[californiaappli1]

Yes, things are looking much better for me. A lot of community programs, and some low tier university programs. No luck with any of my reaches

 

[jdh71]

It's the same **** I've seen in the pulmonary critical care invites last two years and I think I've figured out why.

The specialty is getting more competitive. As this has occurred the neurotic people that med students are sent out way more applications than necessary and first wave invites were held greedily by the top percentiles of applicants but as more (And ostensibly "better") interviews invites came in people started canceling and with the cancellations came second wave invites. PD's are also trying to figure out the best way to invite. And some are just waiting until later to send invites so that way only serious folks accept and commit to a date.

I predict invites go well into December this year. Those who are arguably not the cream of the crop need to just hang in there. I know it's a lonely ****ing feeling but don't give up hope.

 

[dozitgetchahi]

I think I'm just bitter. If you go through my post hx, there is one ultra competative (non internal med) speciality I really liked, but was scared off by the NRPM data... now I'm not even sure I'll even match into a legitimate IM program. Not sure why IM would be anyone's first choice...not a bad backup though considering the subspecialty options.

Yeah, seriously...don't do IM. You're going to end up being one of those ****ty whiny lazy interns who wish they were doing something else. For residents like myself, your type is a complete pain in the ass.

Some of us liked IM, and it wasn't just our 'backup option'. We're not dumb either. I could have chosen a lot of specialties and settled on IM because it seemed like the best balance (and it ended up being an astoundingly good fit too). Doesn't sound like you're there yet, or that you'll ever get there.

 

[premedk]

Yeah, seriously...don't do IM. You're going to end up being one of those ****ty whiny lazy interns who wish they were doing something else. For residents like myself, your type is a complete pain in the ass.

Some of us liked IM, and it wasn't just our 'backup option'. We're not dumb either. I could have chosen a lot of specialties and settled on IM because it seemed like the best balance (and it ended up being an astoundingly good fit too). Doesn't sound like you're there yet, or that you'll ever get there.

You mad bro?

 

[235009]

The specialty is getting more competitive.

I said this 3 years ago after you guys told me I would get interviews at a bunch of top programs with my step 1 score (248) and I ended up getting none (because I didn't go to a top school, wasn't top quartile or AOA, and didn't honor my medicine rotation).

It all works out though. I'm thrilled with where I ended up, have had a great experience and made the very most of it. Hang in there! There is good medicine being practiced, research to be done, and residents who match into excellent fellowships outside of Man's Greatest Hospital.

 

[Dave89]

Anyone care to venture an educated guess as to whether IM is becoming more competitive relative to its previous status among the specialties, or if this season is just the result of score/ambitious EC creep among all medical students?

 

[jdh71]

You mad bro?

He didn't sound mad.

 

[jdh71]

Anyone care to venture an educated guess as to whether IM is becoming more competitive relative to its previous status among the specialties, or if this season is just the result of score/ambitious EC creep among all medical students?

It's becoming more competitive relative to its previous specialties.

 

[235009]

Anyone care to venture an educated guess as to whether IM is becoming more competitive relative to its previous status among the specialties, or if this season is just the result of score/ambitious EC creep among all medical students?

IM has been getting more competitive for a few years now as a result of med students flocking away from radiology and anesthesia among other specialties.

 

[CatFactorial]

Anyone care to venture an educated guess as to whether IM is becoming more competitive relative to its previous status among the specialties, or if this season is just the result of score/ambitious EC creep among all medical students?

IM is thebomb.com and RODE specialties are thedampsquib.com

But also, I think more folks are seeing IM as a viable career option. Still lucrative in terms of subspecialties, but hospitalist medicine is appealing to many (and can be quite lucrative in and of itself). Particularly as obamacare changes the compensation landscape.

 

[IMreshopeful]

You mad bro?

More likely confused as to why you think IM can only be a backup option.

I scored in the 250s on my step exams and was in a top quartile of my med school class. Still chose IM because I liked it and to this day still enjoy it. Even if I had applied and matched into rads or anesthesia, sure I probably would have made good cash and had much easier hours, but I would have been miserable. IM was very much a personality fit too.

Some of the fellowships of IM, FYI, are probably as competitive as the ROAD residencies.

 

[medstudent7860]

I said this 3 years ago after you guys told me I would get interviews at a bunch of top programs with my step 1 score (248) and I ended up getting none (because I didn't go to a top school, wasn't top quartile or AOA, and didn't honor my medicine rotation).

It all works out though. I'm thrilled with where I ended up, have had a great experience and made the very most of it. Hang in there! There is good medicine being practiced, research to be done, and residents who match into excellent fellowships outside of Man's Greatest Hospital.

Asking because I have similar stats (also don't have much research)...what tier residency did you match in?

 

[235009]

Asking because I have similar stats (also don't have much research)...what tier residency did you match in?

I actually had a first and second author publications when I applied but both were from before med school. My guess is that these programs aren't just looking for research but a continuous track record of research. The things I mentioned in my initial post are more important though.

I'm at a competitive University program in a desirable location.

 

[IMreshopeful]

I actually had a first and second author publications when I applied but both were from before med school. My guess is that these programs aren't just looking for research but a continuous track record of research. The things I mentioned in my initial post are more important though.

I'm at a competitive University program in a desirable location.

I think AOA/top quintile makes a big difference in residency matching, in retrospect. I also published research prior to med school which probably counted for some, but still didn't get a lot of "top tier" invites. This is despite having a great step 1 score, high quintile (but not AOA), great LORs, and H in medicine. I also went to a med school which is not top notch/tier (though still an excellent med school for training) - definitely to some degree that matters, as it's an ego boost for the PDs to say "look where our graduates came from!".

I matched to a reasonably competitive university program in a medium sized city and am very happy. It's not a Penn/JHH/MGH/BWH tier program, but it has gotten me where I wanted and I can practice medicine pretty much anywhere without being surprised/fazed by what I see.