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[lovefash67]

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Hi!
I was wondering if someone can assist me any tips.

I would like to apply for Clinical Psychology Programs in December of this year. I currently do not have any publications or presentations. I was wondering how I can go about getting this within the next 9 months. I am willing to do whatever. Also, I have a faculty member that I am really interested in working with he has provided me various resources. I was wondering if would it be a good idea to offer my assistant in his research/lab only problem is I live in NYC and the school is in Maryland.

 

[WisNeuro]

In many/most labs, presentations and publications that include undergrads, usually include undergrads who have "put their time in." In my experience, this was usually 2nd year+ or unusually motivated and involved 1st year undergrads. I think it'd be difficult to be engaged in lab activities (meetings, running subjects, data entry, analysis) without physically being there.

I wish you the best of luck, but the chances of getting into a lab, and getting a presentation in the next 9 months are small. Not impossible, but not that great.

 

[psych844]

Hi!
I was wondering if someone can assist me any tips.

I would like to apply for Clinical Psychology Programs in December of this year. I currently do not have any publications or presentations. I was wondering how I can go about getting this within the next 9 months. I am willing to do whatever. Also, I have a faculty member that I am really interested in working with he has provided me various resources. I was wondering if would it be a good idea to offer my assistant in his research/lab only problem is I live in NYC and the school is in Maryland.

I'm in the same situation, but found research work as of like one to two weeks back. I was clear with the lab that my goal would be to get a poster or publication out of my experience..so the person in charge essentially told me how it would be possible/how much work would needed to be done to get everything done on time. So my suggestion is find a lab, and be really clear about what your goals are, and the lab will be clear with you what the possibilities are.

 

[lovefash67]

I'm in the same situation, but found research work as of like one to two weeks back. I was clear with the lab that my goal would be to get a poster or publication out of my experience..so the person in charge essentially told me how it would be possible/how much work would needed to be done to get everything done on time. So my suggestion is find a lab, and be really clear about what your goals are, and the lab will be clear with you what the possibilities are.

Thank You so much for your insight. I am currently volunteering as research assistant at a hospital . How do I go about searching for labs?

 

[lovefash67]

In many/most labs, presentations and publications that include undergrads, usually include undergrads who have "put their time in." In my experience, this was usually 2nd year+ or unusually motivated and involved 1st year undergrads. I think it'd be difficult to be engaged in lab activities (meetings, running subjects, data entry, analysis) without physically being there.

I wish you the best of luck, but the chances of getting into a lab, and getting a presentation in the next 9 months are small. Not impossible, but not that great.

Thank You

 

[WisNeuro]

Are you currently enrolled in a university? If so, that can be an easier way into a lab. Getting into a lab of which you have no prior affiliation can be much harder.

 

[lovefash67]

Are you currently enrolled in a university? If so, that can be an easier way into a lab. Getting into a lab of which you have no prior affiliation can be much harder.

Yes I am but I am currently doing my masters online. So I don't have the opportunity to go through my university.Can I send my research to journals or conferences?

 

[WisNeuro]

Yes I am but I am currently doing my masters online. So I don't have the opportunity to go through my university.Can I send my research to journals or conferences?

Depends on the research, what kind of data do you have? Do you have an IRB? Is it just a review? Hard to answer without specifics.

 

[Kadhir]

Can you get anything out of work you're doing for the hospital now? That would be my first approach.

Do you have other sufficient research experience? Will the guy at MD pay you? Can you relocate for the summer? Can you apply the next year instead, thereby giving yourself more time to accrue a pub or two? All questions you should ask yourself if you haven't already.

I had 0 pubs/presentations when I applied and I ended up at a well known (Academy), funded PhD program. However, my research experiences were quality and I worked with reputed people. In the end, though, this is anecdotal, and things get more competitive every year. At the very least, I think it's good you're thinking about the research chops you need before you apply. GL!

 

[Justanothergrad]

Also, keep in mind that the mode number of publications on match to internship from a doctoral program is 0. The median is only 1 and the mean is 1.8. They are not easy to get and not everyone has them; most don't to be honest. Posters are a bit of a different note because they are easier to obtain (easier review, faster review, etc.), but its a good reminder that publications aren't (and shouldn't be) expected for someone to be considered. There are schools where that may be the norm, but not for most programs and not for most applicants.

 

[psych844]

Also, keep in mind that the mode number of publications on match to internship from a doctoral program is 0. The median is only 1 and the mean is 1.8. They are not easy to get and not everyone has them; most don't to be honest. Posters are a bit of a different note because they are easier to obtain (easier review, faster review, etc.), but its a good reminder that publications aren't (and shouldn't be) expected for someone to be considered. There are schools where that may be the norm, but not for most programs and not for most applicants.

Wow..thanks..this makes me feel better!

 

[lovefash67]

Can you get anything out of work you're doing for the hospital now? That would be my first approach.

Do you have other sufficient research experience? Will the guy at MD pay you? Can you relocate for the summer? Can you apply the next year instead, thereby giving yourself more time to accrue a pub or two? All questions you should ask yourself if you haven't already.

I had 0 pubs/presentations when I applied and I ended up at a well known (Academy), funded PhD program. However, my research experiences were quality and I worked with reputed people. In the end, though, this is anecdotal, and things get more competitive every year. At the very least, I think it's good you're thinking about the research chops you need before you apply. GL!

I talked to my research c oordinator at the hospital and he said that it is possible to get a presentation but it depends on the RAs themselves to the attending physicians and taking intiative. So for the next month I ll be making my self know in the hospital and asking the physicians to shadow. Do you have any other tips that can make me more marketable with the physicans?

 

[lovefash67]

Also, keep in mind that the mode number of publications on match to internship from a doctoral program is 0. The median is only 1 and the mean is 1.8. They are not easy to get and not everyone has them; most don't to be honest. Posters are a bit of a different note because they are easier to obtain (easier review, faster review, etc.), but its a good reminder that publications aren't (and shouldn't be) expected for someone to be considered. There are schools where that may be the norm, but not for most programs and not for most applicants.

Okay,good thank you so much for this information. I feel less anxious now. I will try my best to at least get a poster

 

[lovefash67]

Depends on the research, what kind of data do you have? Do you have an IRB? Is it just a review? Hard to answer without specifics.

I want to do a review and no I do not have an IRB

 

[DrMikeP]

I talked to my research c oordinator at the hospital and he said that it is possible to get a presentation but it depends on the RAs themselves to the attending physicians and taking intiative. So for the next month I ll be making my self know in the hospital and asking the physicians to shadow. Do you have any other tips that can make me more marketable with the physicans?

Offer to buy them lunch or coffee and ask about their research/specialty. Then don't do like I've seen too many psychologists do, which is ramble ramble ramble ramble. Be to the point and avoid psychobabble.

 

[lovefash67]

Offer to buy them lunch or coffee and ask about their research/specialty. Then don't do like I've seen too many psychologists do, which is ramble ramble ramble ramble. Be to the point and avoid psychobabble.

Thank you so much for your help,I really appreciat it.Will do. If I have any more questions can I PM you?

 

[DrMikeP]

Thank you so much for your help,I really appreciat it.Will do. If I have any more questions can I PM you?

Sure

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[futureapppsy2]

Also, keep in mind that the mode number of publications on match to internship from a doctoral program is 0. The median is only 1 and the mean is 1.8. They are not easy to get and not everyone has them; most don't to be honest. Posters are a bit of a different note because they are easier to obtain (easier review, faster review, etc.), but its a good reminder that publications aren't (and shouldn't be) expected for someone to be considered. There are schools where that may be the norm, but not for most programs and not for most applicants.

That mode is only true for the combined PhD/PsyD internship applicant pool, though. As an article in TEPP pointed out, the mode for PhD internship applicants is 1 and the median is 2, with a third having 3 or more. Overall, two-thirds of PhD internship applicants have at least one peer-reviewed publication. Still, I agree that you don't need journal articles to get into a solid doc program.

 

[Justanothergrad]

That mode is only true for the combined PhD/PsyD internship applicant pool, though. As an article in TEPP pointed out, the mode for PhD internship applicants is 1 and the median is 2, with a third having 3 or more. Overall, two-thirds of PhD internship applicants have at least one peer-reviewed publication. Still, I agree that you don't need journal articles to get into a solid doc program.

yeh, a good point. I wish we had better numbers for portions that have one on acceptance to a program. It would be an interesting survey of change between start and internship. Clearly a majority of folks don't shift much which makes it interesting how much importance is placed on it in being competitive.

 

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[Therapist4Chnge]

Do you have any other tips that can make me more marketable with the physicans?

It can be very system (or even dept) dependent, but make it known that you'd be willing to help w. any kind of research/posters. Most residencies require their residents to do a poster or similar, so maybe talking to the residents? They are busy and may welcome assistance. I'm not sure of your role, but as long as you work there (or intern/volunteer), it shouldn't be a weird ask.

 

[lovefash67]

It can be very system (or even dept) dependent, but make it known that you'd be willing to help w. any kind of research/posters. Most residencies require their residents to do a poster or similar, so maybe talking to the residents? They are busy and may welcome assistance. I'm not sure of your role, but as long as you work there (or intern/volunteer), it shouldn't be a weird ask.

I will definitely do that. Thank you for the advice