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Wondering if there are any Canadian friendly schools (looking at Upenn, BU, NYU) that do not require an undergraduate degree. If there are any requirements my stats are
GPA: 3.9
RC: 21
AA: 18
PA: 20
EC: some volunteering, varsity athlete.
Any help would be great, thanks.
 
Are there schools that don't require a bachelors prior to matriculation?
 
Why not apply to Canadian schools? There are some that don't need a bachelors and your GPA is good enough.
 
There are some. Not sure if they're Canada friendly, but it's much much harder to get in without a bachelor's degree. You'd almost definitely need a better DAT score to be considered.
 
An AA of 18 for an international student won't really cut it.
 
I will apply to Canadian dental schools, but they are more demanding in that they accept fewer applicants. The thing is at UofA they do not look at the science portion therefore I did not really need to take it. These universities state that they look at applications holistically, since my GPA is reasonably higher than their mean admission is something that they would overlook based on my course work?
 
I will apply to Canadian dental schools, but they are more demanding in that they accept fewer applicants. The thing is at UofA they do not look at the science portion therefore I did not really need to take it. These universities state that they look at applications holistically, since my GPA is reasonably higher than their mean admission is something that they would overlook based on my course work?
No.First off, you need the science portion of the DAT. Second, it's much much harder to gain admission without a bachelor's degree, and that DAT AA of 18 gives them an easy excuse not to take you. Finally, and I may be wrong on this one, Canada has a different grading scale than the US. You'd have to make sure your 3.9 from your university actually translates as a 3.9 in the US. People get rejected with 3.9s and higher DATs all the time without even being international. Your being Canadian makes it even more difficult
 
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Wondering if there are any Canadian friendly schools (looking at Upenn, BU, NYU) that do not require an undergraduate degree. If there are any requirements my stats are GPA: 3.9 RC: 21 AA: 18
GPA and DAT are way out of sync.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/2014-international-students-ds-admission-statistics.1095300/
Are there schools that don't require a bachelors prior to matriculation?
Only 6 schools require a bachelor degree: Tufts, Mid Ill, Boston, Howard, Illinois, E. Carolina.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...age-predental-education-of-enrollees.1070379/

I will apply to Canadian dental schools, but they are more demanding in that they accept fewer applicants. The thing is at UofA they do not look at the science portion therefore I did not really need to take it. These universities state that they look at applications holistically, since my GPA is reasonably higher than their mean admission is something that they would overlook based on my course work?

The number of "accepted" "applicants" has absolutely nothing to do with how demanding schools are. If anything, it would be the ratio of applicants to enrollees.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...pla-over-high-admission-stats-part-ii.910566/
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/2011-canadia-ds-gpa-dat.907493/
 
GPA and DAT are way out of sync.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/2014-international-students-ds-admission-statistics.1095300/

Only 6 schools require a bachelor degree: Tufts, Mid Ill, Boston, Howard, Illinois, E. Carolina.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...age-predental-education-of-enrollees.1070379/



The number of "accepted" "applicants" has absolutely nothing to do with how demanding schools are. If anything, it would be the ratio of applicants to enrollees.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...pla-over-high-admission-stats-part-ii.910566/
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/threads/2011-canadia-ds-gpa-dat.907493/

Like I said they school I intended to apply to did not require the science portion therefore I guessed for that part of the test, which would result in my GPA and DAT being way of of sync. As for you second comment I would consider the ratio of applicants to enrolees to be "demanding" if that would make you feel better about my previous statement. So back to the point of the original thread is there anything advice you can provide me with regards to applying to any US schools? The Canadian DAT can only be written in Nov and Feb so I cannot write again till Nov and would prefer not to do that.
 
Like I said they school I intended to apply to did not require the science portion therefore I guessed for that part of the test, which would result in my GPA and DAT being way of of sync. As for you second comment I would consider the ratio of applicants to enrolees to be "demanding" if that would make you feel better about my previous statement. So back to the point of the original thread is there anything advice you can provide me with regards to applying to any US schools? The Canadian DAT can only be written in Nov and Feb so I cannot write again till Nov and would prefer not to do that.

why canadian uses "write DAT/tests" instead of "take DAT/tests?"
 
Like I said they school I intended to apply to did not require the science portion therefore I guessed for that part of the test, which would result in my GPA and DAT being way of of sync. As for you second comment I would consider the ratio of applicants to enrolees to be "demanding" if that would make you feel better about my previous statement. So back to the point of the original thread is there anything advice you can provide me with regards to applying to any US schools? The Canadian DAT can only be written in Nov and Feb so I cannot write again till Nov and would prefer not to do that.
Wait! What schools do not require a "science portion"?
Grade inflation is what usually comes to mind.
While concrete figures are difficult to find for Canadian schools, the available info suggests that the applicants to enrollees ratio for Canadian schools might, at best, be a little higher than that for the US ds.
Do keep in mind that about 1/3 of US ds do not accept the Canadian DAT.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...ian-consideration-without-dat-scores.1074519/
 
Wait! What schools do not require a "science portion"?
Grade inflation is what usually comes to mind.
While concrete figures are difficult to find for Canadian schools, the available info suggests that the applicants to enrollees ratio for Canadian schools might, at best, be a little higher than that for the US ds.
Do keep in mind that about 1/3 of US ds do not accept the Canadian DAT.
http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...ian-consideration-without-dat-scores.1074519/

Yes, the University of Alberta doesn't require the "science portion". The school believes that the applicant's GPA is sufficient to evaluate the applicant's science knowledge. They also look at specific GPA from the selected required courses. Also, more than 90% of the student pool is in-province, meaning most students are from the 2 major universities in the province. So, GPAs are too dependent on how "easy" or "hard" the school is.

From reading some of doc toothache's previous comments, you seem to think that Canadian schools are easy with grades. Many of the classes are curved (at least almost every class I took), and sure it's different from school to school, I don't think the Canadian grading system is too different than one of the US. I don't have any numbers with me, but it's a little absurd to think achieving high grades in Canada is easier than in the states. Let's just say schools vary rather than countries.

There are a couple reasons I can think of right now why GPA of accepted students is high in Canada. Although I don't agree with the system, many Canadian DSs don't require shadowing, ECs, LORs and PS, and select students based solely on GPA/DAT scores and interviews. The reason applicants to enrollees ratio in Canadian DS isn't too off from one of US schools is because students with lower GPA don't even think about applying. Just from my experience, many of my classmates give up applying to DS because their GPA is 3.6 or even 3.7 (they actually have little to no chance in most schools). They move on to a different career, or apply to US schools. The dental student to population is lower in Canada as many Canadian students study in the US or Australia, and practice back in Canada. Lastly, as you know, physicians in most areas here in Canada cannot have private practice as health care is free here. This seems to be a factor in many students pointing their career path to dentistry, and give a little boost in the popularity of the career. Dental school GPA is higher than medical school GPA in most Canadian schools.

I might be a little bias towards Canadian schools since I've been reading some misinformation about Canadian schools, but I just wanted put it out there.
 
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