non psychoanalytic psychotherapy for psychiatrists

[gaki]

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Hello,

I am wondering if psychiatrists have the opportunity to learn about diverse methods of psychotherapy, besides psychoanalysis. Psychoanalysis seems interesting, but I would be interested in supplementing it with education in other forms of psychotherapy as well, like Cognitive Behavioral Therapy and such. I am just wondering because almost all of the psychotherapy I have seen associated with psychiatrists (at least online) has been psychanalysis. Also, do psychiatrists have the opportunity to learn about things like Humanistic, Phemonenological, etc. psychology if they wanted to? I realize its usually psychology grad students that are the ones who are focusing on theory but..

I have been reading a lot of your posts and posting a lot of questions of my own and have been learning a lot from this site. I hope my questions aren't too pesky.


Thanks much.

 

[gaki]

ahh i reply to myself. anyway, in case there were any other psychiatrists who were interested in CBT, here is a list of places supported by the "Academy of Cognitive Therapy."

http://www.academyofct.org/Info/Guide.asp?szparent=159&SessionID=giieekiwo

I am having the hardest time figuring out which orgs are more legit than others, if there is any difference at all, in giving certifications. This org seems to have the support of Aaron Beck, Dr. CBT himself, so I thought this might be a promising group to trust.

Does anyone know if theres any good way to tell the diff betwen legit and quacky training in therapy?

I have picked up a few things about psychiatrists and the psychotherapy they relate to. I *think* cbt has the best reputation for getting results, and is very compatible with short term therapy i think hmo's prefer. and yet it looks like there is a large gap between the percentage of psychiatrists (very low) and psychologists who practice it, who are providing psychotherapy at all.

isn't cbt also very preferred for working with patients on meds?

i am just roughly guessing all of this, based on my past few weeks of flipping thru web pages.

ahh i ramble.
now i post.

 

[mdblue]

My 0.02c-
1. There are not too programs that focus on CBT-offhand I can think of Drexel and UPenn at Philly.
2. I think you meant psychodynamic when you are talking about psychoanalysis. Most of the older MDs were trained in P/D tx. However newer, time-limited tx are taking off. And as I mentioned before it's not possible to master all of these different forms-and in the real world the margin blurrs.
3. CBT is a structured/manual-based tx, hence comparing and doing controlled-trials are easier. And you are right, managed care tends to promote it because of lower imbursement to college-level grad and MSWs doing CBT.
Hope this helps.

 

[gaki]

mdblue,

The link I posted had some lists of places to get cbt training.. and yes upenn and drexel were mentioned..

And yes I did mean psychodynamic when I said psychoanalysis. I tend to use the terms interchangably.. is it very wrong? Please set me straight. I am but a lowly undergrad.

Does managed care really prefer it because of lower costs to grad and masters students? I thought it was because of its effectiveness? Or is that just the "official" reason? Also, can you tell me what is your profession and general clinical experience/preferences?