Nontraditional Students: timeline for applying?

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I was going to post this in the Nontrad forum, but I specifically want to get answers from people going into Optometry. I am 24, graduated with an BA in Marketing in 2009 and am now going back to school for Optometry. I just started taking classes this semester (Anatomy, Micro) while working as well. I am taking Chem 1 & 2 over the summer, and the rest of my sciences in the fall 2011/spring 2012.

My question is....for those that changed careers too, when did you apply/ when did you take the OAT? My purpose for posting this is because I would REALLY like to be able to apply next year, but I will not have my classes finished in the fall to apply early like everyone suggests. I really do not want to have to wait a whole year and have a lag year in between, so has anyone else been in this position? Has anyone been successful applying later on in the application cycle? thanks! 🙂
 
You don't have to have all of your classes complete in order to apply. On the application, theres a place that you can indicate that you are planning pre-req courses. Keep in mind, a lot of these pre-req courses will prepare you for the OAT. With a majority of your pre-req courses outstanding and without OAT scores, it'll be difficult for admissions to truly evaluate you. They will probably just sit your application to the side and await those. With your OAT complete (and a good score on it), they'll be more likely to overlook a lot of outstanding pre-req courses. I have been accepted to optometry school, but I still lack A&P, which I'm taking over the summer before matriculating.
 
I agree. I was in a similar position. I don't know what classes exactly you will be taking in Fall 2011, but probably Orgo 1. You can take the OAT over the winter break - which is what I did - and finish your applications around the same time. If your grades are good and you do well on the OAT - you will have no problem being accepted around February/March 2012. This semester I'm still taking two prerequisites - micro and biochem. Hope that helps.
 
Who is a nontraditional student? 24 seems young to me.
 
Who is a nontraditional student? 24 seems young to me.

age doesn't necessarily make you non-traditional. I believe the op is referencing the fact that he/she has already graduated with a Bach and is going back to fullfil requirements.
 
Thanks so much for your advice everyone! I figured it would be possible to finish my classes in the fall then take the OAT over winter break, just wanted to see if anyone had previously done this before.

And yes, I am only 24 and I don't consider myself old, by nontraditional I meant I already have a Bachelor's degree (in Business), but I am back in school taking science pre-reqs.
 
I was going to post this in the Nontrad forum, but I specifically want to get answers from people going into Optometry. I am 24, graduated with an BA in Marketing in 2009 and am now going back to school for Optometry. I just started taking classes this semester (Anatomy, Micro) while working as well. I am taking Chem 1 & 2 over the summer, and the rest of my sciences in the fall 2011/spring 2012.

My question is....for those that changed careers too, when did you apply/ when did you take the OAT? My purpose for posting this is because I would REALLY like to be able to apply next year, but I will not have my classes finished in the fall to apply early like everyone suggests. I really do not want to have to wait a whole year and have a lag year in between, so has anyone else been in this position? Has anyone been successful applying later on in the application cycle? thanks! 🙂


They do say "apply early" and that is absolutely the most important thing but not if you are rushing everything else. It's true that you can finish the prereq's just before matriculation, but try to be honest with yourself on how well you will do on OAT before you become comfortable with your prereq courses. I don't know any of your details, but I personally think giving yourself one more year is very smart even if you feel like it's just one course that needs to be sqeezed in. I rushed things with Med school and ended up not getting in a few years back. It costed me 4 years of my life to get back in the game of updating my resume (research and patient interaction) and living life...during which time I found Optometry to be extremely attractive while working at a private office as for a part-time job. So those 4 years of time was not all the waste... and I am so glad that I didn't go to med school since Optometry ended up being a better fit for what I though was a healthcare branch that fit my personality. My point is.. if I had waited one more year back then to apply to med school, I have a feeling that I wouldn't have been waitlisted/rejected from bunch of schools and had to be 1. discouraged 2. have the pressure to do more than what I have in my application previous year. 3. Get lost in life for a quite a while. This is of course assuming that I would have wanted to go to medical school still.

Take your time, 24 is still very young as you are probably so sick of hearing and one more year of being SURE that you will get in.. (for example this will give you a chance to take OAT twice IN CASE you do mediocre on the first one, but if you have already applied before the score, then you are kind playing it risky). Good luck!!
 
I'm sort of in the same boat as you! I graduated with a BA in international relations. Worked at a community health center administration for a year and decided to get into the healthcare field and picked optometry. When I decided, I immediately started to take pre-req classes at a local university. Luckily, I had taken some basic science and calc, and I was able to fulfill rest of the pre-req classes over 3 semesters of full time school.

I would recommend checking the schools you're interested in applying for the specific pre-reqs that they need. I applied to five schools in March, (4, I never finished the supplemental for western U, after my interview at SCCO, I realized socal's not for me🙂 got conditionally accepted into 2 on the conditions that I finish biochemistry, physics and physics lab, which I am currently taking. I've declined both schools, and now I have a dilemma picking between IAUPR (my original top choice for their spanish component) and NECO (the school is gorgeous and opportunities are limitless!).

I was a bit of a procrastinator. I went and traveled around asia last summer instead of studying for the OAT. Last semester (fall), I took organic chemistry, anatomy and physiology, and those I feel really helped prepare me for the OAT (especially O'Chem, take that before your OAT!). Over winter break, I started to study for OAT. I used Kaplan On Demand. I had planned to take OAT end of Jan, but when Jan came around, I realized I didn't put in all the time I planned, so I postponed my test to end of Feb, so from end of Jan to Feb I was putting 4 to 6 hours a day to review the materials. I got a pretty good score on the OAT. Right after the OAT I started on my OptomCas app. It was then I realized had I started earlier I could have applied to a few more interesting schools whose deadline had past on March 1. Anyway, I spent the next two weeks cranking out my app, used my schools writing center every other day and wrote up a pretty strong personal statement. I was also lucky that my profs and manager were flexible and submitted LOR super fast to meet the 3/15 deadline😛 I also shadowed a local optometrist the weekend before 3/15 and got his LOR on 3/14!

The moral of this story is, start early so you can have more options and can rely less on luck like I did. (If I had failed my OAT the first time I took it on March 1, I wouldn't have time to retake and would have to apply for 2012 school year!) But I also knew if I just took it without putting any time/effort into the study, it would have been a total waste of money. Another tip, start thinking where you can get your LORs and start shadowing optometrists early and really ask them questions like what they like and what they don't like, it's great way to prepare for school interviews later. Also important, start working on your personal statement, a little at a time, jot down your inspirations, come up with a unique anecdote that will show your personality. Don't write anything negative about yourself/app, and turn around to justify it, it's waste of character count. Just play up your strengths and address your weaknesses during your interview if they ask!

Good Luck!
 
Thanks for the advice! I might consider taking another year in between, I'm just nervous about being able to find a job/something to do in that time frame. I just moved to a new area with my significant other because he is going to graduate school, so I don't have any contacts out here for jobs yet.

Another issue I was worried about and wanted to get people's opinion on is regarding the amount of classes to take at one time. Over the summer I am taking Gen Chem I and II, which I am not worried about. But in the fall I am signed up for Organic I, Physics I, and Bio I (all with labs too). I am a little hesitant that I might be overdoing it, but I know that schools want to see that you can handle a tough courseload. I guess my question is, is it better to get mediocre grades and load up on classes? Or take minimal classes and get better grades?
 
The best would be to load up and do well in those classes. But if between the two, I'd say better grades since the admission committee will likely just glance at the numbers and not take time to justify "oh, so and so took all these hard courses at once!" You will be the only person who knows what course load you can handle. If you are way determined, I don't see why you can't do ochem, bio, and phys and ace all three! I took O'chem, Anatomy and Physiology I, Microbiology, and Nutrition, I did well, but I also put in a lot of time studying. If you study smart, there'll be lots of time for other things like a part-time job and I also got really involved with intramurals🙂
 
Thanks for the advice! I might consider taking another year in between, I'm just nervous about being able to find a job/something to do in that time frame. I just moved to a new area with my significant other because he is going to graduate school, so I don't have any contacts out here for jobs yet.

Another issue I was worried about and wanted to get people's opinion on is regarding the amount of classes to take at one time. Over the summer I am taking Gen Chem I and II, which I am not worried about. But in the fall I am signed up for Organic I, Physics I, and Bio I (all with labs too). I am a little hesitant that I might be overdoing it, but I know that schools want to see that you can handle a tough courseload. I guess my question is, is it better to get mediocre grades and load up on classes? Or take minimal classes and get better grades?

Organic I, Physics I, and Bio I are very straight forward. That's not a bad courseload at all. I would be more worried about Gen Chem I and II over the summer. I thought Gen Chem II was my hardest class in undergrad. I don't know why, because I enjoy chemistry. I would not have been able to do GC II over the summer (maybe I just had a very difficult prof).
 
I have to agree with nc2tarheels, taking gen chem I and II together and over the short summer will be very intense, maybe do gen chem I over the summer and ChemII next semester.
 
I think it really depends on the person and it depends on the school, and who is teaching that session. I assume Chem I is one session and then Chem II is another session. Last summer I took Bio I summer session 1 and then Chem II summer session 2. For me personally, Chem II was the easiest class out of all my prereqs.
Also, I took Organic I, Bio II, and Physics II all in one semester. It's definitely doable.
 
Thanks DellGirl! Although I appreciate everyone's concerns about the gen chem in the summer, I have to do it in order to be able to take the rest of my classes in the fall since chemistry is a pre-req. I can handle it, I'm wiling to work hard to pull it off! Thanks guys
 
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