Not accepted to any 'match schools'

[Asomasu]

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First I would like to say how thankful and happy I feel with my 'safety schools'. I would also like to add that in this process we all know there really is no such thing as a safety school or match school. I used quotes for this reason.

Next I would like to vent my frustrations about the 2013 cycle. 5 safeties (4 acceptances 1 waitlist) 10 match schools (8 rejections, 1 interview rejection, 1 interview no-reply.) 😕

When I say 'match' this is a term used by my advisors, my interviewers, and even the dean of medicine of some schools. I am not just telling myself this.

Misery loves company, post your frustrations so I have some company. 😍

 

[NotAndrew]

When I say 'match' this is a term used by my advisors, my interviewers, and even the dean of medicine of some schools. I am not just telling myself this.

Well there's your problem.

 

[fastboyslim]

What do you mean by "match school"? If the average accepted applicant at a school has lower but not significantly lower set of GPA and MCAT scores than you, is this what you mean by "match school"? Because obviously, nonacadademics are a big factor (as you know). Did you contact any of your match schools and ask to see if there was any set of common reasons why you were getting rejected out of schools you predicted as matches?

 

[Asomasu]

What do you mean by "match school"? If the average accepted applicant at a school has lower but not significantly lower set of GPA and MCAT scores than you, is this what you mean by "match school"? Because obviously, nonacadademics are a big factor (as you know). Did you contact any of your match schools and ask to see if there was any set of common reasons why you were getting rejected out of schools you predicted as matches?

35 MCAT
4.0 GPA
EC's:
-1000 hours patient involved volunteer.
-co-founder of 2 organizations and raised 65,000 dollars for cancer research.
-co-author pub in JACS
-shadowed 3 MD's
-moving personal statement, all my interviewers loved it.
-all interviewers said they wanted me at their med school and fawned over me.

.........you tell me? This is my frustration. I called the one that interviewed me and rejected me and they said there was nothing wrong with my app. and that they wanted me to go there except there weren't enough spots for all applicants that fit their school. The dean said that even if I was flawless, there were just a few more qualified applicants.

 

[fastboyslim]

35 MCAT
4.0 GPA
EC's:
-1000 hours patient involved volunteer.
-co-founder of 2 organizations and raised 65,000 dollars for cancer research.
-co-author pub in JACS
-shadowed 3 MD's
-moving personal statement, all my interviewers loved it.
-all interviewers said they wanted me at their med school and fawned over me.

.........you tell me? This is my frustration. I called the one that interviewed me and rejected me and they said there was nothing wrong with my app. and that they wanted me to go there except there weren't enough spots for all applicants that fit their school. The dean said that even if I was flawless, there were just a few more qualified applicants.

Are you serious? You seem like a phenomenal candidate.

What were your "match schools" ? What was the school you were interviewed and rejected by? Did you ask them what the other "more qualified applicants" did that you didn't? It seems you have everything: stats, research, volunteer work, shadowing, leadership, a great essay, etc.

 

[Asomasu]

Are you serious? You seem like a phenomenal candidate.

What were your "match schools" ? What was the school you were interviewed and rejected by? Did you ask them what the other "more qualified applicants" did that you didn't? It seems you have everything: stats, research, volunteer work, shadowing, leadership, a great essay, etc.

lol, I was hoping for more people to say that they had it bad also, not more people to tell me "how this could have happened?" My "match schools were ones that had concentrations in accelerated research programs, such as Duke, Baylor, Yale, Harvard HST, Stanford. I included UPenn, JHU, Cornell, Columbia, and Vanderbilt who are known for their research but not accelerated. These are the 10 matches.

Duke was my number 1 choice with the fastest research curriculum, then Baylor. They were both my home states also, and sure enough my two interviews. The dean of Duke spoke personally with my advisor about me (conference). She talked me up hard saying how amazing I was. This rejection was the only one that hurt. Mainly because it was so confusing. Apparently the better applicants were 'diverse' or had higher MCAT scores. Also I noticed alumni pref. at Duke. With only 101 spots, this can make sense.

 

[Greonis]

lol, I was hoping for more people to say that they had it bad also, not more people to tell me "how this could have happened?" My "match schools were ones that had concentrations in accelerated research programs, such as Duke, Baylor, Yale, Harvard HST, Stanford. I included UPenn, JHU, Cornell, Columbia, and Vanderbilt who are known for their research but not accelerated. These are the 10 matches.

Duke was my number 1 choice with the fastest research curriculum, then Baylor. They were both my home states also, and sure enough my two interviews. The dean of Duke spoke personally with my advisor about me (conference). She talked me up hard saying how amazing I was. This rejection was the only one that hurt. Mainly because it was so confusing. Apparently the better applicants were 'diverse' or had higher MCAT scores. Also I noticed alumni pref. at Duke. With only 101 spots, this can make sense.

Those "match" schools are all extremely difficult to get into, for the majority of applicants have backgrounds that are just as stellar as yours. Calling them "matches" was an incorrect move on the part of your pre-med advisors; they would have been better off calling them "reaches" (which they are for almost everyone).

I'm sorry that things didn't work out the way you wanted, but with four acceptances (and I would in no way call those "safeties" either, by the way, since that term rarely exists in medical school admissions), you have a great future ahead of you as a physician. Best of luck!

 

[lovedocta07]

troll.

wut kinda crakhead would say my match schools were stanford, Upenn, jhu?

 

[mmmcdowe]

lol, I was hoping for more people to say that they had it bad also, not more people to tell me "how this could have happened?" My "match schools were ones that had concentrations in accelerated research programs, such as Duke, Baylor, Yale, Harvard HST, Stanford. I included UPenn, JHU, Cornell, Columbia, and Vanderbilt who are known for their research but not accelerated. These are the 10 matches.

Duke was my number 1 choice with the fastest research curriculum, then Baylor. They were both my home states also, and sure enough my two interviews. The dean of Duke spoke personally with my advisor about me (conference). She talked me up hard saying how amazing I was. This rejection was the only one that hurt. Mainly because it was so confusing. Apparently the better applicants were 'diverse' or had higher MCAT scores. Also I noticed alumni pref. at Duke. With only 101 spots, this can make sense.

How can have to home states? Do you mean that you have lived in both states or do you have some dual residency thing???

Oh, btw troll.

 

[mmmcdowe]

troll.

wut kinda crakhead would say my match schools were stanford, Upenn, jhu?

Before anyone makes a "you're right that's only for URMS" I would suggest you look at the race of the poster 😀

 

[Asomasu]

First I would like to say how thankful and happy I feel with my 'safety schools'. I would also like to add that in this process we all know there really is no such thing as a safety school or match school. I used quotes for this reason.

First I am NOT a troll.

How can have to home states? Do you mean that you have lived in both states or do you have some dual residency thing???

Oh, btw troll.

Second, I have residence in one state, my folks have residence in another and gave it as extenuating circumstances in secondary. Only way I can explain the in-state loving Baylor's interview invite.....

 

[fastboyslim]

lol, I was hoping for more people to say that they had it bad also, not more people to tell me "how this could have happened?" My "match schools were ones that had concentrations in accelerated research programs, such as Duke, Baylor, Yale, Harvard HST, Stanford. I included UPenn, JHU, Cornell, Columbia, and Vanderbilt who are known for their research but not accelerated. These are the 10 matches.

Duke was my number 1 choice with the fastest research curriculum, then Baylor. They were both my home states also, and sure enough my two interviews. The dean of Duke spoke personally with my advisor about me (conference). She talked me up hard saying how amazing I was. This rejection was the only one that hurt. Mainly because it was so confusing. Apparently the better applicants were 'diverse' or had higher MCAT scores. Also I noticed alumni pref. at Duke. With only 101 spots, this can make sense.

lol if your "match" schools include Harvard and Hopkins, then out of sheer curiosity, what were your "safety" schools?

 

[Asomasu]

lol if your "match" schools include Harvard and Hopkins, then out of sheer curiosity, what were your "safety" schools?

My top safety that I will most likely be attending if Baylor falls through, is UNC, which I love. It was b/w UNC and UT-southwestern.

 

[redlight]

... the point of this thread is for great applicants (on paper) to mope and lament about being rejected from ultra insane competitive schools? where sneezing at an interview, or wearing the wrong color tie, could mean auto rejection??

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you got accepted, move on! not everyone on this forum has been so fortunate this cycle... so i'm sure you're going to piss people off... go cry on the secondary threads if you must 😛. im sure you'll find your tea n sympathy there

 

[Asomasu]

... the point of this thread is for great applicants (on paper) to mope and lament about being rejected from ultra insane competitive schools? where sneezing at an interview, or wearing the wrong color tie, could mean auto rejection??

??

you got accepted, move on! not everyone on this forum has been so fortunate this cycle... so i'm sure you're going to piss people off... go cry on the secondary threads if you must 😛. im sure you'll find your tea n sympathy there

Well I was hoping that the people that feel like they are not as fortunate as I am would show up and share in lamenting with me, this in turn making me realize that I could have it worse. Also why do you hate me when I only want to love you?

 

[NotAndrew]

Next I would like to vent my frustrations about the 2013 cycle. 5 safeties (4 acceptances 1 waitlist) 10 match schools (8 rejections, 1 interview rejection, 1 interview no-reply.) 😕

So you got into UT southwestern and UNC and you are angry? I would do nearly anything to attend either of those schools, and you are complaining about "only" getting in there. All of your so called "match schools" are some of the most ridiculously competitive med schools in the world.

 

[lovedocta07]

uhh once again...troll

 

[shindotp]

UNC is your safety?

I see nothing abnormal about your acceptances/rejections at all.

 

[Asomasu]

So you got into UT southwestern and UNC and you are angry? I would do nearly anything to attend either of those schools, and you are complaining about "only" getting in there. All of your so called "match schools" are some of the most ridiculously competitive med schools in the world.

Who is angry or complaining? I am thrilled to go to either one. I am just trying to find kinship with people in the same situation as me. 😳

 

[NotAndrew]

Who is angry or complaining? I am thrilled to go to either one. I am just trying to find kinship with people in the same situation as me. 😳

Angry/complaining, frustrated/venting. Whats the difference? You thought when you started this thread you where going to get sympathy, admiration, and congratulations from us. What you actually got when you started this thread was people telling you to stop whining and calling you a troll. You are now on the defensive, SDN is about to checkmate you.

 

[Asomasu]

Angry/complaining, frustrated/venting. Whats the difference? You thought when you started this thread you where going to get sympathy, admiration, and congratulations from us. What you actually got when you started this thread was people telling you to stop whining and calling you a troll. You are now on the defensive, SDN is about to checkmate you.

I have enough people giving me all three, I don't want anymore sympathy, admiration, congratulations. Stop trying to be an internet white knight and just try to be an anonymous poster. What I do want are some stories from other people. I just don't want to feel alone in this.

 

[NotAndrew]

I have enough people giving me all three, I don't want anymore sympathy, admiration, congratulations. Stop trying to be an internet white knight and just try to be an anonymous poster. What I do want are some stories from other people. I just don't want to feel alone in this.

You should feel alone in this, you are alone in this. Most people who post here applied to one or two of your "match schools". Most of these people would have been jacked to get into one of these schools, very few expected it. You, however, did not only expect to get into these schools, you now feel slighted due to not getting in. Man up, stop dwelling on your failures and start looking for apartments in Dallas.

 

[Asomasu]

You should feel alone in this, you are alone in this. Most people who post here applied to one or two of your "match schools". Most of these people would have been jacked to get into one of these schools, very few expected it. You, however, did not only expect to get into these schools, you now feel slighted due to not getting in. Man up, stop dwelling on your failures and start looking for apartments in Dallas.

Maybe your right, not about the first part of course because there are a lot of mdapps on SDN showing me a lot of people with my stats applying to all the same schools and getting in. You are right about the part where I expected to get in, and I feel slighted. Also I already am looking for a condo in Chapel Hill. Very exciting.

 

[JeetKuneDo]

This thread is ridiculous. A lot of people don't get into harvard even if they have a 4.0 gpa and a 35+ mcat.

 

[mmmcdowe]

If it makes you feel better OP, I also had hopes of a Top 10. Now I'm "stuck" in a top 20 with scholarship and 5 waitlists

Life goes on, and things work out. My dad wanted to be ortho and was given the wrong deans letter that said he had failed a year of medical school even though he was ranked in the top 10% of his class. Ended up going into EM. Turns out his hips gave out within 10 years. Ortho would have been hell without surgery. My mom keeps telling me that maybe there's someone at my current top choice that I'm supposed to meet. My girlfriend doesn't like that very much!

 

[Asomasu]

If it makes you feel better OP, I also had hopes of a Top 10. Now I'm "stuck" in a top 20 with scholarship and 5 waitlists

Life goes on, and things work out. My dad wanted to be ortho and was given the wrong deans letter that said he had failed a year of medical school even though he was ranked in the top 10% of his class. Ended up going into EM. Turns out his hips gave out within 10 years. Ortho would have been hell without surgery. My mom keeps telling me that maybe there's someone at my current top choice that I'm supposed to meet. My girlfriend doesn't like that very much!

Yes, it does make me feel better. But it wasn't a top 10 I had my eye on, it was just Duke. I just wish other schools adopted their curriculum. UNC has no special research program, but I would hardly say I am stuck there. I believe everything happens for a reason, so I know this is actually for the best. Still it is nice to share the insanity of......5 waitlists?.......wow......

 

[NotAndrew]

Yes, it does make me feel better. But it wasn't a top 10 I had my eye on, it was just Duke. I just wish other schools adopted their curriculum. UNC has no special research program, but I would hardly say I am stuck there. I believe everything happens for a reason, so I know this is actually for the best. Still it is nice to share the insanity of......5 waitlists?.......wow......

😱

 

[Asomasu]

😱

.......This means that Duke's rank has nothing to do with why I wanted to go there......

 

[NotAndrew]

My bad, I thought you where saying Duke was not a top 10.

 

[Law2Doc]

This thread is ridiculous. A lot of people don't get into harvard even if they have a 4.0 gpa and a 35+ mcat.

Exactly. High stats, good ECs and a solid interview probably get you into a med school. You usually need more of a "hook" to be a shoo-in for one of the top schools. These top schools probably get 8000-10,000 applications. Of these many interview the best 1,000 and of these, probably accept a couple of hundred. So you can be solid, but they simply liked the other 4.0/35 (or even 3.8/34 -- it's not purely numerical) folks a bit more, because they had more compelling research, or their LORs were more compelling, or their ECs were more interesting (mountain climbers, career changers, olympians, reality TV experiences, etc). These days you need something more than good stats to be confident. You were smart enough to apply to a range, but not smart enough to realize that you needed a range. These apparently weren't safety schools for you, they were realistic. And you got in, congrats!

If you do well in your rotations and the boards, you should end up in a great residency equivalent to where you would be if you did well at your top choices. So enjoy the next 4 years, do well, and don't get fooled that you "deserved" better. Sounds like the advisors did a number on you, giving you unrealistic advice. They created a term "match school", which you should not use because the match means something very different -- in Texas and later for residencies they use a match, so this term is simply confusion. Perhaps "target" school would be a better term, because you were shooting for these targets and the term doesn't imply that you'd necessarily get them. Anyhow, congrats. Don't be full of yourself. You ended up where the admissions folks think you belong. And their assessment is generally superior than any med school advising.

 

[Asomasu]

Exactly. High stats, good ECs and a solid interview probably get you into a med school. You usually need more of a "hook" to be a shoo-in for one of the top schools. These top schools probably get 8000-10,000 applications. Of these many interview the best 1,000 and of these, probably accept a couple of hundred. So you can be solid, but they simply liked the other 4.0/35 (or even 3.8/34 -- it's not purely numerical) folks a bit more, because they had more compelling research, or their LORs were more compelling, or their ECs were more interesting (mountain climbers, career changers, olympians, reality TV experiences, etc). These days you need something more than good stats to be confident. You were smart enough to apply to a range, but not smart enough to realize that you needed a range. These apparently weren't safety schools for you, they were realistic. And you got in, congrats!

If you do well in your rotations and the boards, you should end up in a great residency equivalent to where you would be if you did well at your top choices. So enjoy the next 4 years, do well, and don't get fooled that you "deserved" better. Sounds like the advisors did a number on you, giving you unrealistic advice. They created a term "match school", which you should not use because the match means something very different -- in Texas and later for residencies they use a match, so this term is simply confusion. Perhaps "target" school would be a better term, because you were shooting for these targets and the term doesn't imply that you'd necessarily get them. Anyhow, congrats. Don't be full of yourself. You ended up where the admissions folks think you belong. And their assessment is generally superior than any med school advising.

I mean no arrogance in this but, my "hook" is my personal statement. The likes of which is more compelling than kiterunner, after all life experiences are the best hook.

The admissions folks think I belong somewhere? You make it sound like some sort of collaborative conspiracy, rather than a series of administrative decisions. I do not think I deserve 'better', because I do not believe in those stupid rankings everyone follows. No medical schools are better than others! They each have their own personalities. The Dean of Duke Med thought I had their personality. Of course it was then a shock that I was rejected there. I do not 'deserve' Duke. I know that they were a fit for me, that's all, a fit. But not enough people on the committee thought so. My interviewer told me that one point that she would defend but the committee would not heed is my undergrad's name, Tier 1 as it maybe, it is a public state school. If that is the only reason they do not see me as a 'fit' then I will live with it and show them what great things us no-names can achieve. But otherwise do not fool yourself into thinking that admissions selection processes are perfect.

 

[Law2Doc]

I mean no arrogance in this but, my "hook" is my personal statement. The likes of which is more compelling than kiterunner, after all life experiences are the best hook.

The admissions folks think I belong somewhere? You make it sound like some sort of collaborative conspiracy, rather than a series of administrative decisions. I do not think I deserve 'better', because I do not believe in those stupid rankings everyone follows. No medical schools are better than others! They each have their own personalities. The Dean of Duke Med thought I had their personality. Of course it was then a shock that I was rejected there. I do not 'deserve' Duke. I know that they were a fit for me, that's all, a fit. But not enough people on the committee thought so. My interviewer told me that one point that she would defend but the committee would not heed is my undergrad's name, Tier 1 as it maybe, it is a public state school. If that is the only reason they do not see me as a 'fit' then I will live with it and show them what great things us no-names can achieve. But otherwise do not fool yourself into thinking that admissions selection processes are perfect.

Look, I'm not meaning to be harsh, but I am being blunt. You got into a decent med school where you will get a decent education and land a decent residency. That you are posting on here venting about the schools you didn't get, where you apparently think you "belong" is a bit sad. You need to get yourself excited about one of the places you got in. You are going to be a doctor. And you are going to end up going to one of the schools that felt your credentials would be an asset to their class. That's a good thing, not a negative.

(1) you don't get to decide what's a good hook. The admissions committees at the various schools, in their search for an interesting and diverse class, decide what's a good hook. Your PS apparently didn't make the cut at most of your longshots. And they were longshots because several thousand applicants were better than you on paper. Plain and simple. your med school advisors were blowing smoke up your bum if they suggested otherwise.

(2) No, it's not a collaborative conspiracy, but when 8/10 top schools don't even interview you, it should be clear that you aren't in the upper echelon of the folks applying there, on paper. They weren't buying what you were selling. Life experiences are only a good hook if they are better than most other applicants experiences. Apparently you (based on your kiterunner comment, were more impressed with your own credentials than the top schools). So yes, the schools basically determine, first on paper, and then in person, whether you are a "good fit" there. What YOU think doesn't matter until you get in. That most of the top schools you applied to came to the same conclusion pre-interview suggests that you overshot. That's fine, it's good to have longshots. But you can't whine about ending up in more realistic places.

(3) Although you say "I do not think I deserve 'better'", you actually do, or else you wouldn't keep calling them safety schools. They weren't. They end up being your realistic options.

(4) based on the bold above and the arrogance suggested in your first post, I have to wonder whether the folks who cried troll were accurate, or whether you really need a reality check. (Saying "I mean no arrogance" and then posting something absurdly arrogant is quite bizarre trollish behavior -- if your PS reads like this I know why you didn't get in).
Good luck in med school.

 

[shindotp]

I'm wondering: are you instate for NC? If so, I think there are many people who'd choose UNC over Duke for financial reasons.

 

[jtimmer1]

First off, since when is UNC a "safety" school?

If you wanted to do "special research", maybe you should have applied to MD/PhD programs.

 

[flip26]

35 MCAT
4.0 GPA
EC's:
-1000 hours patient involved volunteer.
-co-founder of 2 organizations and raised 65,000 dollars for cancer research.
-co-author pub in JACS
-shadowed 3 MD's
-moving personal statement, all my interviewers loved it.
-all interviewers said they wanted me at their med school and fawned over me.

.........you tell me? This is my frustration. I called the one that interviewed me and rejected me and they said there was nothing wrong with my app. and that they wanted me to go there except there weren't enough spots for all applicants that fit their school. The dean said that even if I was flawless, there were just a few more qualified applicants.

This profile is not a "match" at any Top 20 school. This profile may get your "foot in the door" (meaning an interview invite) at many but by no means all top tier schools, but wherever you interviewed, the likelihood is that the other applicants sitting in the waiting room had everything you had plus just a little bit more...

Deflate your ego, quit listening to your advisors et al who have been blowing smoke up your butt, and be grateful you got in to a couple of great med schools.

PS: having med school deans tell you there was nothing wrong with your app is polite "code" for saying there is something wrong with YOU as revealed in your interviews. Chalk it up to experience, work on your people skills in med school, and move along.

Otherwise, we will be reading your gripes about not matching anywhere in 4 years...

 

[Dookter]

My interviewer told me that one point that she would defend but the committee would not heed is my undergrad's name, Tier 1 as it maybe, it is a public state school. If that is the only reason they do not see me as a 'fit' then I will live with it and show them what great things us no-names can achieve. But otherwise do not fool yourself into thinking that admissions selection processes are perfect.

I don't speak for the admissions committee in any way, but as a Duke medical student I can tell you that a huge % of the student body comes from state universities. I went to a state university. That generally doesn't keep people out.

 

[shiftingmirage]

No medical schools are better than others! They each have their own personalities. The Dean of Duke Med thought I had their personality. Of course it was then a shock that I was rejected there. I do not 'deserve' Duke. I know that they were a fit for me, that's all, a fit. But not enough people on the committee thought so. My interviewer told me that one point that she would defend but the committee would not heed is my undergrad's name, Tier 1 as it maybe, it is a public state school. If that is the only reason they do not see me as a 'fit' then I will live with it and show them what great things us no-names can achieve. But otherwise do not fool yourself into thinking that admissions selection processes are perfect.

So your 'fit' school is one who judges a candidate on the name of their undergraduate institution, rather that the merit of that candidate. That, for me, would be a red flag that the school is NOT a 'fit'.

Everyone knows med school admissions are not perfect. Qualified applicants are rejected every year, while other less qualified individuals are admitted. Admissions committees have moods just like everyone else. After seeing the 18th 4.0/35 person, they get bored. Give them a 3.7/32 with something different, they get interested.

Be happy with your acceptances. I'm sure most people are not at their 'dream' school. My dream school was any school. I just wanted to get in.

 

[MedStudentWanna]

Well I was hoping that the people that feel like they are not as fortunate as I am would show up and share in lamenting with me, this in turn making me realize that I could have it worse. Also why do you hate me when I only want to love you?

This is obviously a troll post. This poster should be banned.

Guys, let it go. No one is demented enough to think of Harvard as a "match" school.

 

[njbmd]

35 MCAT
4.0 GPA
EC's:
-1000 hours patient involved volunteer.
-co-founder of 2 organizations and raised 65,000 dollars for cancer research.
-co-author pub in JACS
-shadowed 3 MD's
-moving personal statement, all my interviewers loved it.
-all interviewers said they wanted me at their med school and fawned over me.

.........you tell me? This is my frustration. I called the one that interviewed me and rejected me and they said there was nothing wrong with my app. and that they wanted me to go there except there weren't enough spots for all applicants that fit their school. The dean said that even if I was flawless, there were just a few more qualified applicants.

Bingo, the above is your problem. You just were not competitive enough based on the pool of applicants to these schools. In short, they didn't want you and they frankly lied to you if they "fawned over" you. The above isn't particularly "fawnable" in all reality. You can "cry in your beer" or you can choose among your "safety schools", go to medical school and practice medicine. In short, you have received a nice lesson in maturity and humility. You should thank those schools because failure is a good teacher. Better now than later.

 

[Bacchus]

I might not have a top 10, 50, or 100, but atleast I have my humility.

 

[216397]

If this is a serious post (it's kind of hard to tell), I would say that the main problem with your application had to be your sense of entitlement. :/ Going to any medical school is a privilege and an honor. You should be happy to have the opportunity to go at all! There are problems in the world that are far worse than not getting into one of the schools of your choice. I'm sure you are a very gifted person with much to offer, but I think you should invest some time into gaining a little bit of perspective.

 

[235009]

Well I was hoping that the people that feel like they are not as fortunate as I am would show up and share in lamenting with me, this in turn making me realize that I could have it worse. Also why do you hate me when I only want to love you?

I mean no arrogance in this but, my "hook" is my personal statement. The likes of which is more compelling than kiterunner, after all life experiences are the best hook.

:troll:

 

[GoSpursGo]

lol, I was hoping for more people to say that they had it bad also, not more people to tell me "how this could have happened?" My "match schools were ones that had concentrations in accelerated research programs, such as Duke, Baylor, Yale, Harvard HST, Stanford. I included UPenn, JHU, Cornell, Columbia, and Vanderbilt who are known for their research but not accelerated. These are the 10 matches.

Duke was my number 1 choice with the fastest research curriculum, then Baylor. They were both my home states also, and sure enough my two interviews. The dean of Duke spoke personally with my advisor about me (conference). She talked me up hard saying how amazing I was. This rejection was the only one that hurt. Mainly because it was so confusing. Apparently the better applicants were 'diverse' or had higher MCAT scores. Also I noticed alumni pref. at Duke. With only 101 spots, this can make sense.

Just going to say, it doesn't seem like Baylor still has quite a few of their acceptances yet to be given out; I think this week will be a big week for people still waiting for Baylor.

 

[silas2642]

Oooh... I call troll-- when was the last time you saw any adcom member "fawn" over an applicant?

 

[Asomasu]

Back from sleeping, wow this thread only got worse......Fine I will be honest.......I got a 9 in verbal.

 

[DrYoda]

Match school?????😕??????😕??????😕

 

[htownpremie]

-all interviewers said they wanted me at their med school and fawned over me.

LOL, wait, really?

i'm betting based on what i've read on this forum, that you must come across much better in person than you do on paper. nothing wrong with that, but that might be why you seem to have better success at schools where you actually interviewed. my LizzyM score is about the same as yours, and i have 5 flat out rejections so far all from the "top ten." my theory though, is that the further up you go in competitiveness (not necessarily the US news ranking, mind you), as l2d pointed out, the less the numbers really matter in selecting their class. since they're already at the top, most of these schools are willing to play with the numbers a bit, and they become much more interested in fit and how dynamic you are as an individual.

i'll throw you a bone of empathy--it can be frustrating, because none of us necessarily know what the schools are looking for or if they are looking for anything specific at all. and a lot of it depends on how the school specific process is structured. you can do all the traditionally "expected" things nearly to perfection, and it doesn't always get you what you "deserve" based on your achievements. that's because it's not a 100% achievement or "great personality"-based process. but to be rejected because of a sort of fuzzy and nebulous "fit" is a disappointment for us, because it leaves you wondering if you could've done something different or better. i think a lot of us on here sort of feel that way about some schools where we thought we might've had a decent chance, but the process has been like this for a pretty long time, and it's not like we didn't know what we were getting ourselves into. you definitely aren't the only one out there with "great" stats that didn't have great success at these schools.

as most have rightly pointed out here, the best attitude to take is to just be happy and satisfied that you got in to a school (and a few good ones for that matter). the mentality that you have is just a continuation of the mentality you had when you were applying to colleges, and for good reason--i think the years in undergrad are pretty big in terms of personal and intellectual development. but i suspect that 20 years from now, most of us will look back and wonder why we made such a big deal about which medical school we wanted to go to, since there are great opportunities at almost every single one of them. all it'll be is a piece of paper on your wall in your office that hardly anybody will see, because your patients will be going straight from the lobby into the patient room. besides once school is in full swing and has begun to kick your butt, you'll be so focused on that that you'll never have the time or energy to look back.

 

[anoncurious]

Well, to be honest your problem was probably the way you came across to the adcom..they probably read your personal statement (which you thought was god's gift to literature), saw that you were an *****hole and then rejected you..I got into a bunch of schools that I classified as 'reach' and you classified as match and I have lower stats than you do (well, lower gpa, higher mcat, but lizzm score is 74 instead of 75)..it's not all stats based b/c at the end of the day a douche with a 4.0 is still a douche.

 

[drizzt3117]

Complaining about getting into multiple top 25 schools = douche.

That said, I think a lot of people with similar stats (myself included) did significantly better than you with the top tier, so maybe you need to reevaluate your attitude or interviewing skills.

 

[Podalarius]