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hi,
throwaway for obvious reasons. username relevant.
im a m4 working on my eras. i worked on a research project in m2/m3 and just finished it up since the residents i was working with graduated. i contributed quite a bit to this project. i did a lit review, ran experiments (this was study with human subjects), and did stats analysis. the project was presented at a conference which i didnt attend because of my m3 schedule. since i didnt have the info needed to include the presentation in eras, i googled to find it. in the course of that googling, i found two things. first, on the official conference program, i was not listed as an author on the poster. second, an abstract for this project was published in a journal. re: the poster presentation, i was told that my name would be included on the poster and that i "should include it on my cv." i was never told that an abstract was being submitted, but this doesnt surprise me. i am surprised i was not told about it after it was accepted.
needless to say, im a little pissed. first, the abstract includes verbatim a portion of the intro/background i wrote after the lit review. based on that alone i think i have a rightful claim to be listed as an author. second, im not sure that i even feel comfortable listing the poster on my eras - irrespective of whatever may or may not have been on the poster, the last thing i want is an overzealous application reviewer to look up the conference program and see that im not actually an author as listed on the program. it just isnt worth including for that risk (or maybe im overblowing it, i dont know).
the poster presentation doesnt bother me too much. whatever. however the abstract does and imo that is completely unacceptable. not even because i want to run up the score on my cv, but because i want to be able to show that something was produced at the end of this project. saying that i just worked on a project with nothing to point to is unimpressive. i think being able to include a poster presentation and abstract pub will give the project some weight. the abstract has already in published.
so, what should i do? im going into a different field than the residents i worked with but i still like to think of myself as a nice guy and dont want to be overtly confrontational. the attending who is listed as the pi is someone that i know and have a good relationship with. i feel comfortable bringing it up with her but am not sure if thats what i should do. im holding back because even if i made a fuss i dont think anything would be corrected prior to my eras being submitted. i dont even know what could be done. i certainly dont want to **** with these residents (now fellows/attendings) over what ultimately amounts to unimportant bull****. but... what the hell man
thanks
throwaway for obvious reasons. username relevant.
im a m4 working on my eras. i worked on a research project in m2/m3 and just finished it up since the residents i was working with graduated. i contributed quite a bit to this project. i did a lit review, ran experiments (this was study with human subjects), and did stats analysis. the project was presented at a conference which i didnt attend because of my m3 schedule. since i didnt have the info needed to include the presentation in eras, i googled to find it. in the course of that googling, i found two things. first, on the official conference program, i was not listed as an author on the poster. second, an abstract for this project was published in a journal. re: the poster presentation, i was told that my name would be included on the poster and that i "should include it on my cv." i was never told that an abstract was being submitted, but this doesnt surprise me. i am surprised i was not told about it after it was accepted.
needless to say, im a little pissed. first, the abstract includes verbatim a portion of the intro/background i wrote after the lit review. based on that alone i think i have a rightful claim to be listed as an author. second, im not sure that i even feel comfortable listing the poster on my eras - irrespective of whatever may or may not have been on the poster, the last thing i want is an overzealous application reviewer to look up the conference program and see that im not actually an author as listed on the program. it just isnt worth including for that risk (or maybe im overblowing it, i dont know).
the poster presentation doesnt bother me too much. whatever. however the abstract does and imo that is completely unacceptable. not even because i want to run up the score on my cv, but because i want to be able to show that something was produced at the end of this project. saying that i just worked on a project with nothing to point to is unimpressive. i think being able to include a poster presentation and abstract pub will give the project some weight. the abstract has already in published.
so, what should i do? im going into a different field than the residents i worked with but i still like to think of myself as a nice guy and dont want to be overtly confrontational. the attending who is listed as the pi is someone that i know and have a good relationship with. i feel comfortable bringing it up with her but am not sure if thats what i should do. im holding back because even if i made a fuss i dont think anything would be corrected prior to my eras being submitted. i dont even know what could be done. i certainly dont want to **** with these residents (now fellows/attendings) over what ultimately amounts to unimportant bull****. but... what the hell man
thanks