NROTC and HPSP

[midn]

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Hello, I was wondering if any of you folks knew if I had to formally apply to HPSP to get a scholarship to med school if I am in ROTC. Currently, I have read a clause that states that I have to send a packet to CNET the summer before to get approval to leave for med school. After I do this, do I still have to apply for HPSP or is it assumed that the Navy will pay for me? I have spoken to the administration at my unit but they are unsure and apparently there is supposed an official message coming from Pensacola the January of one's junior year to instruct midshipmen what to do. I would really like to know beforehand since I am not sure I will register as a "junior" midshipmen this January because I am graduating early.

I have been reading this forum nearly regularly for the past year so please do not hijack this thread into an anti-military medicine discussion. There have only been a few occurrences of this, but I'm just giving an advanced request just in case. Please do not take offense; I appreciate your opinions on the downfalls of military medicine, but I can read about that in the fifty other threads dedicated to it 🙂 .

Thanks.

 

[former military]

Hello, I was wondering if any of you folks knew if I had to formally apply to HPSP to get a scholarship to med school if I am in ROTC. Currently, I have read a clause that states that I have to send a packet to CNET the summer before to get approval to leave for med school. After I do this, do I still have to apply for HPSP or is it assumed that the Navy will pay for me? I have spoken to the administration at my unit but they are unsure and apparently there is supposed an official message coming from Pensacola the January of one's junior year to instruct midshipmen what to do. I would really like to know beforehand since I am not sure I will register as a "junior" midshipmen this January because I am graduating early.

I have been reading this forum nearly regularly for the past year so please do not hijack this thread into an anti-military medicine discussion. There have only been a few occurrences of this, but I'm just giving an advanced request just in case. Please do not take offense; I appreciate your opinions on the downfalls of military medicine, but I can read about that in the fifty other threads dedicated to it 🙂 .

Thanks.

Military medicine sucks. Don't take the scholarship.

 

[Banlioch]

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[orbitsurgMD]

Hello, I was wondering if any of you folks knew if I had to formally apply to HPSP to get a scholarship to med school if I am in ROTC. Currently, I have read a clause that states that I have to send a packet to CNET the summer before to get approval to leave for med school. After I do this, do I still have to apply for HPSP or is it assumed that the Navy will pay for me? I have spoken to the administration at my unit but they are unsure and apparently there is supposed an official message coming from Pensacola the January of one's junior year to instruct midshipmen what to do. I would really like to know beforehand since I am not sure I will register as a "junior" midshipmen this January because I am graduating early.

I have been reading this forum nearly regularly for the past year so please do not hijack this thread into an anti-military medicine discussion. There have only been a few occurrences of this, but I'm just giving an advanced request just in case. Please do not take offense; I appreciate your opinions on the downfalls of military medicine, but I can read about that in the fifty other threads dedicated to it 🙂 .

Thanks.

ROTC is not HPSP. HPSP is not ROTC. Just because you have been admitted to ROTC does not mean you have been automatically accepted into HPSP should you decide to go to medical school. Your medical school will not assume anyone is paying your medical school bills except yourself unless you have been awarded a scholarship and can present some form of guarantee of payment from the military. It is not otherwise assumed that the Navy will pay for you.

BTW, does your NROTC scholarship first require permission from the Naval Reserve to defer ROTC payback before applying to medical school? I would want to be sure of that before you go to the expense and trouble of applying to medical schools and interviewing.

 

[midn]

ROTC is not HPSP. HPSP is not ROTC. Just because you have been admitted to ROTC does not mean you have been automatically accepted into HPSP should you decide to go to medical school. Your medical school will not assume anyone is paying your medical school bills except yourself unless you have been awarded a scholarship and can present some form of guarantee of payment from the military. It is not otherwise assumed that the Navy will pay for you.

BTW, does your NROTC scholarship first require permission from the Naval Reserve to defer ROTC payback before applying to medical school? I would want to be sure of that before you go to the expense and trouble of applying to medical schools and interviewing.

I know the difference between ROTC and HPSP. As for the second part of your question, yes that is what I was talking about with requesting permission with CNET. I wanted to know if, upon approval by CNET, I was automatically given the HPSP scholarship (as it seems redundant to me to ask CNET to go to medical THEN apply for HPSP). Hell, if they don't give it to me automatically, I would much rather just pay for a cheap in-state medical school myself and save four extra years of service should I end up hating the Navy.

There are 15 ROTC midshipmen a year (plus another 15 for the Naval Academy since we know they are so great 🙄 ) that are admitted into medical. From what I have heard from Pensacola, the last year or two have not had the slots filled. Even if there is competition for those slots, I'm still a highly competitive candidate thus far (no MCAT scores yet, but good GPA).

 

[dstMD]

I'm a NROTC grad who was also an HPSP recipient. The deal with the Navy is once CNET approves you, you must apply for and once offered accept the HPSP scholarship in order to go straight from ROTC to med school. They will NOT let you pay for med school on your own. In otherwords, no scholarship= no med school. Unless things have changed in the last couple of years, you end up having to work through a recruiter to apply for the HPSP scholarship, not your unit. I would contact your local Navy HPSP recruiter ASAP. It is not a given that you will receive the HPSP scholarship because you are in ROTC, but I think if CNET approves you and you end up with a few interviews you have a decent chance.

You can PM me with any additional questions.

 

[orbitsurgMD]

ROTC is not HPSP. HPSP is not ROTC. Just because you have been admitted to ROTC does not mean you have been automatically accepted into HPSP should you decide to go to medical school. Your medical school will not assume anyone is paying your medical school bills except yourself unless you have been awarded a scholarship and can present some form of guarantee of payment from the military. It is not otherwise assumed that the Navy will pay for you.

BTW, does your NROTC scholarship first require permission from the Naval Reserve to defer ROTC payback before applying to medical school? I would want to be sure of that before you go to the expense and trouble of applying to medical schools and interviewing.

I am sure if you are competitive, the Navy would have you either way. With the ROTC, they probably get your medical doctor service less expensively, unless you are going to Amherst or Middlebury. You might be able to count your military internship toward ROTC payback where it wouldn't count under HPSP (assuming you choose to do one; you might want to find out whether ROTC obligates you to apply to military first.)

Check out the "cheap" state school residency prerequisites. Some "state" schools aren't so cheap, and others require lengthy residency requirements
before getting in-state rate. Out-of-state rates can be very high.

 

[midn]

I am sure if you are competitive, the Navy would have you either way. With the ROTC, they probably get your medical doctor service less expensively, unless you are going to Amherst or Middlebury. You might be able to count your military internship toward ROTC payback where it wouldn't count under HPSP (assuming you choose to do one; you might want to find out whether ROTC obligates you to apply to military first.)

Check out the "cheap" state school residency prerequisites. Some "state" schools aren't so cheap, and others require lengthy residency requirements
before getting in-state rate. Out-of-state rates can be very high.

Military internships don't count toward ROTC payback from what I am told. Payback starts after residency. They actually do something weird where your payback may start during residency or your internship, but each year of residency adds another year to your commitment. It's pretty confusing, but from what I have heard from other ROTC grads from this forum, it's the full 8 years after residency.

Also, thanks to the previous poster before orbitsurg. I'll be sure to PM you with additional questions.

 

[NavyFP]

Military internships don't count toward ROTC payback from what I am told. Payback starts after residency. They actually do something weird where your payback may start during residency or your internship, but each year of residency adds another year to your commitment. It's pretty confusing, but from what I have heard from other ROTC grads from this forum, it's the full 8 years after residency.

Also, thanks to the previous poster before orbitsurg. I'll be sure to PM you with additional questions.

You are correct, while you are in any form of GME you are not paying back a commitment. GMO counts, post residency counts. Nothing in training counts towards payback of either.