NY GPRs

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Could anyone comment on the following GPR programs:

Mt. Sinai, Montefiore, Kings County, St. Barnabas, Flushing Hospital Med, Staten Island University, VA in Manhattan, and Queens Hospital Center.

Any feedback appreciated. Thanks.

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Ask more specific questions, as these are all very different programs, both in the scope of training, location, quality of life, etc.
 
In which of these programs do residents place implants? Which programs have a lot of OS and fixed work? Which ones have the best on call schedule?
 
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Are you talking about GPR or OMFS programs. Doing implants right after graduating. Are you joking?
In which of these programs do residents place implants? Which programs have a lot of OS and fixed work? Which ones have the best on call schedule?
 
St Barnabas residents can place and restore their own implants (Zimmer). With no OMFS program and only a visiting resident, they do a lot of their own surgery. Good laser training. Lite on call due to so many residents and call is from home.
I know the director there, and he is a very thorough guy. Lots of didactics. An overall good program. Pedo and Orhto residencies also there. Nice attending staff ( I once taught there ).

Jacobi Med Ctr also good, though not on your list. Place and restore implants. Laser training. Good didactic program and lots of interaction with the on site pedo and OMFS programs. Good attending staff. Call from home except trauma nites (once a month). New state of the art facility for '09 class. Chairman and pedo director national leaders in their fields. Comittment to helping residents who pursue specialty training.

Monty also good choice, ultra large program.
 
I've heard really great things about Montefiore but I don't know specifics but I do believe your call is in the hospital.

I visited the Manhattan VA and I have always like VA programs but this one has OMFS and perio residents and endo I believe so you don't have that much of an opportunity to place implants as other VAs do. You typically only see 4 patients a day which I thought was kind of small and all VA hospital have minimal on-call days where you actually come in.
 
Hi,
If you arte interested in a place a little further south - Delaware - look at us...

WE do implants, and lots of OMS.

Our program has a spluit personality of advanced general dentistry/implants and hospital dentistry/OMS/Oral Med/ special care pts. We try to help our residents seek their potential... this year we helped get one of our residents into OMS... even though it cut our program.

Wilmington is only about 2-2 1/2 hours from NYC by car...

Take a look at us... or call
 
I also would like more info on GPRs in NY. Now that they are required for licensure in NY, has admission become more competitive?? Can anyone who is currently in a NY gpr comment on thier stats- ie, grades, boards scores, class rank? My grades/scores fall in the avg category, and I havent done research...should i be worried about getting in? Should I consider doing research before applying?? (I'm a 3rd yr).
Thank you!!
 
I am a resident at the Manhattan VA. The program is a good one, and I assume it is quite competitive, but don't know how residents are chosen. We do a wide variety of dental treatment - it is a good intermediate between the supervision of dental school and the complexity of procedures done in private practice. So far, I have a moderate amount of program experience with crowns, dentures, RPDs, restoring implants, fillings, and SC/RP. I am hoping for more experience with fancy procedures (veneers, placing implants, etc.), but it doesn't look like that is on my current horizon. Here are some pros and cons I can think of:

Pros:
-Don't have to consider finances for most treatment plans
-Get to try new materials and methods (program director is excellent at suggesting alternative treatment plans or ways to think about procedures learned in dental school)
-Each resident has his/her own operatory that feels more like private practice
-Light call schedule - every 5th week, off site, with rare calls
-Specialty residents are around for consultation
-16 residents (incl. speciality residents) makes for a nice camaraderie
-Lots of companies (esp labs and implant co's) coming through for intro to their products
-Government job, so it is well-paid, and some nice perks (transporation covered)
-Access to NYU dental library and VA library with good dental journals and textbooks
-Occasional exposure to very good clinicians through lunch lectures and treatment planning sessions
-Many days off (28 paid, 14 sick, 10 government holidays, though GPRs only take 14 paid and get paid the rest at program completion)
-Clinic open from 8:30-4:30, so you have your evenings
-In-house lab for pouring alginates, and some other work, though program director likes you to do your own labwork if possible
-Few weeks spent in rotations. You do 2 weeks of internal medicine and 1 week of anesthesia.
-Online patient charts and perio/hard tissue charting.

Cons:
-Light patient load. I have worked in a high-volume community health center where there are constantly emergency walk-ins and you see about 10 patients a day. Here you see 4-5 a day, and there are very few walk-ins. If you want somewhere to develop your speed, you will have to try hard to do so here.
-There is some tension between assistants and dentists here, which can make the workplace unpleasant at times.
-Because there are specialty residents, many of the more complicated procedures are expected to get referred or triaged to them.
-High cancellation and no-show rate because there are no consequences for patients who do this.
-Many psychiatrically involved patients, which makes it challenging. One way to qualify for dental care is for psych reasons.
-Quality of educational lectures varies widely, with 30-40% of lectures underwhelming.
-Clinic chairs are quite problematic, with no handpiece speed modulation, no ability for left-handed doctors to work at them, and frequent malfunctions (though they do look good!)
-No digital radiography.

I hope this helps you a bit. I know when I was applying for GPR's, I found it extremely difficult to find information about programs and ended up interviewing at 11 places just to find out what they were like. I only listed 3 on my match list, and really only wanted to come here. Overall, I have been happy with my choice, though I think my expectations may have been higher than they should have been. I have had lots of free time, which has been a good opportunity for me to think about starting a practice or specializing or associating, depending on the day 🙂 Best of luck with your interviews and selection!
 
Hi,
If you arte interested in a place a little further south - Delaware - look at us...

WE do implants, and lots of OMS.

Our program has a spluit personality of advanced general dentistry/implants and hospital dentistry/OMS/Oral Med/ special care pts. We try to help our residents seek their potential... this year we helped get one of our residents into OMS... even though it cut our program.

Wilmington is only about 2-2 1/2 hours from NYC by car...

Take a look at us... or call

When you came to our school, I got the impression this program only restores implants, and does not do implant placements, is that true?
 
St Barnabas residents can place and restore their own implants (Zimmer). With no OMFS program and only a visiting resident, they do a lot of their own surgery. Good laser training. Lite on call due to so many residents and call is from home.
I know the director there, and he is a very thorough guy. Lots of didactics. An overall good program. Pedo and Orhto residencies also there. Nice attending staff ( I once taught there ).

Jacobi Med Ctr also good, though not on your list. Place and restore implants. Laser training. Good didactic program and lots of interaction with the on site pedo and OMFS programs. Good attending staff. Call from home except trauma nites (once a month). New state of the art facility for '09 class. Chairman and pedo director national leaders in their fields. Comittment to helping residents who pursue specialty training.

Monty also good choice, ultra large program.

Who are the patients coming to these GPR programs and getting implants? I can't imagine that Medicaid covers implants, and my impression of these NYC programs from a few years ago is that the patient base is mostly Medicaid.
 
Who are the patients coming to these GPR programs and getting implants? I can't imagine that Medicaid covers implants, and my impression of these NYC programs from a few years ago is that the patient base is mostly Medicaid.

You are correct that many of the patients seen at NYC residency programs are Medicaid based. On the other hand there are many patients who are seen who pay private fees (much less than Pvt office fees) to get implants and veneers done at the hospital. These may well be patients who might otherwise go to a dental school, but want sedation, or, the impression that they are being seen by doctors as oposed to students. Further, there are several federal programs and grants that allow some patients to receive hi quality dental work free of charge. Hope that clarifies things a little.
 
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