ny programs... your opinion

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lotusleaf

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i have some choices to make between the following:


st vincents
nyu
u of rochester
syracuse
suny brooklyn
ny medical college

anyone has any thoughts on these?
i have three choices left and did not want them to go to waste. i basically want to knoiw generalized opinions.

i appreciate any input.

thanks 😕 🙁 😎 😱
 
No Kessler? Or is it already on your list? (yes, I know it's in NJ) 😀
 
lotusleaf said:
i have some choices to make between the following:

albany
albert einstein ny, ny
kingsbrook medical
st vincents
nyu
u of rochester
syracuse

anyone has any thoughts on these?
i have three choices left and did not want them to go to waste. i basically want to knoiw generalized opinions.

i appreciate any input.

thanks 😕 🙁 😎 😱

Out of those programs, I interviewed at Albert Einstein, NYU, and Syracuse. I did not apply to the other programs.

I did a rotation at NYU. NYU has definitely lost its luster. I was impressed by the diversity of the patients that you will see at Bellevue and Rusk. Very high inpatient patient volume like the other 2 big programs in Manhattan. The call schedule is rough. I see PGY4s still doing overnight call at Rusk. Excellent cardiopulmonary rehab. Actually it is the only cardiopulm fellowship that I know of. I found the didactics to be very poor to the point that residents sit in the back rows and basically sleep. They have some excellent attendings but I got the idea that many of them are old-school and don't work well with the residents. I think that the size of the program is too large; It is like going to NYCOM. Overall, the program is overrated.

I thought that Albert Einstein was a decent program (middle tier), comparable to Mt. Sinai. However, I really did not picture myself living in the Bronx. I like that they emphasize outpatient rehab. SCI is very weak and they will immediately admit that. Only 12 months spent doing inpatient. During the interview, I did not like the fact that 4 out of 5 interviewers were pimping me on PM&R & IM stuff. I really like the chairman, Dr. Fast. He loves working out as much as I do 😀 . He is well respected within the NYC area. The PD, Dr. Thomas (who trained at Nassau), was an okay guy. His questions were a bit bizarre. Einstein has always been an FMG heavy program. Actually, it doesn't mean that it is a weak program. AE actually likes making their program more of an internationally diverse program. There have been very good people who trained there such as Dr. Kalantri (fmr faculty at UTHSCSA) who is an EMG guru. Their outpatient clinics offers lot of opportunities to do injections but I did not see an interventionalist on staff. Like most NY programs, it is not the place to learn interventional spine, if you are interested in that. The residents appeared to have very mixed opinions about their program. Subsidized housing is very cheap, although the area is not that good except in Riverdale.

With Syracuse, again I was not too crazy about the city. I was not a fan of the program director. The facilities are very nice, especially the newly formed Institute of Human Performance. They plan on using that facility for research studies (i.e. gait, biomechanics). They are very strong in peds and EMG. The PD is a guru in EMG and is highly respected in the field. I got impression that residents don't get much teaching from their attendings, including EMGs. They seem to be completely on their own when it comes to teaching. Syracuse gives 6 months of elective time, which is the most you can get. Like any PM&R program, residents have been able to secure good jobs all over the country. Check out my feedback about Syracuse on "Stories from the interview trail"

I have heard horrible things about Kingsbrook. St. Vincent's focuses mainly on musculoskeletal medicine. I have no idea of Albany and Rochester, except that Albany begins in the PGY1 year. Well, that is my opinions about the programs I know about.
 
Finally M3 said:
No Kessler? Or is it already on your list? (yes, I know it's in NJ) 😀

No im not interested. They have already picked their applicants and i havent done a rotation there.
 
huh? Kessler pre-picking applicants?? I don't think so... I know the PD - he is very fair and doing a rotation there only helps but doesn't guarantee a spot, NOT doing a rotation there is definitely not reason to NOT apply. (whew, does that make sense??)

Anyways, How are you deciding which programs to apply to? How many are you applying to and what are your interests? without knowing more details, it would be hard to advice.

I would also suggest you widen your area and include Kessler and JFK as well.

if you have three options left, I'm assuming your applying to a total of 10? (if my memory serves me right, was that the limit for the one fee?)

I'm not trying to be nosy but you seem to have some interesting reasoning for applying or not applying to programs and am not sure they are based on facts.

Out of all the programs you listed, I am only familiar with NYU. I would pretty much agree with drvlad's opinion of NYU. You can read the reivews on the thread from last year.
 
lotusleaf said:
No im not interested. They have already picked their applicants and i havent done a rotation there.

Kessler does interview a lot of applicants and there is no way that they will have already decided their applicants. Although Kessler can be a tight-a$$ed program, don't count yourself out. Not everyone has sent in their ERAS forms yet for Kessler to make decision yet. I would agree with Axm397 (actually I always do 🙂 ) and widen your horizon. Both NJ programs are excellent, better structured, and organized in comparison to any NYC program that you will find. I find that there are many strong programs in the northeast that shouldn't limit yourself to NYC, although Manhattan is a whole lot of fun when there is freetime. That is unless you have family reasons or other more specific reasons.

BTW, I forgot to mention that SUNY Brooklyn is still on probation. I wouldn't apply there.
 
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